[Mailman-Users] Multiple mailing lists with overlapping membership
I run a small club with about 50 members. All the club mailing lists are private. Everyone is in the memb...@domain.name list, and there are two other smaller lists containing subsets of the membership, eg ad...@domain.name, maintena...@domain.name. When a message is sent to both ad...@domain.name and memb...@domain.name, recipients get both copies of the message. Would it be better to remove individuals who are in the ad...@domain.name list from the memb...@domain.name list, and then add @admin as a member of the memb...@domain.name list. Does this make memb...@domain.name an 'umbrella' list? -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple mailing lists
Nigel Ridley wrote: I read the documentation: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/index.html and it looks pretty complicated (and I'm not sure if I could do all of what is required on my hosted website). Usually, one does not have sufficient access to a hosted server to install mailman. I have a website with a Mailman list (using cpanel - which came with the hosting plan) and I would like to have multiple mailing lists. Basically they would be announcement lists having the same content but in several different languages. Q. What is the best way to set up such a system? You could have a list per language and post to each list in it's own language. Ideally, each list's preferred_language attribute would be the language you post in, but this would not be an absolute requirement. Mailman has no facility for actually translating the content of a post to another language. The language options control the language of notices, web pages and canned messages only. The problem using cpanel is that it defaults Mailman to English and my hosting company said it would be better to install Mailman in my own space: quote You would have to install a copy of mailman under your own space to take advantage of the language packs. Any change we would make to the serverwide install would just be overwritten by cpanel when next it updated. end quote Either I don't understand your issue or cPanel is worse than I thought or your host doesn't understand Mailman's language support. To set up a list in French for example, go to the Mailman admin interface Language Options page. Check French under available languages and Submit Your Changes. Then set preferred_language to French and Submit Your Changes again. If this isn't available on your hosted installation, then maybe you can't do it. If you can, then there is nothing that the host has to change to support this that would be reversed in an update. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple mailing lists
Mark Sapiro wrote: Nigel Ridley wrote: I read the documentation: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/index.html and it looks pretty complicated (and I'm not sure if I could do all of what is required on my hosted website). Usually, one does not have sufficient access to a hosted server to install mailman. I have a website with a Mailman list (using cpanel - which came with the hosting plan) and I would like to have multiple mailing lists. Basically they would be announcement lists having the same content but in several different languages. Q. What is the best way to set up such a system? You could have a list per language and post to each list in it's own language. Ideally, each list's preferred_language attribute would be the language you post in, but this would not be an absolute requirement. Mailman has no facility for actually translating the content of a post to another language. The language options control the language of notices, web pages and canned messages only. No I didn't expect Mailman to translate content for me -- I know it's good but... The problem using cpanel is that it defaults Mailman to English and my hosting company said it would be better to install Mailman in my own space: quote You would have to install a copy of mailman under your own space to take advantage of the language packs. Any change we would make to the serverwide install would just be overwritten by cpanel when next it updated. end quote Either I don't understand your issue or cPanel is worse than I thought or your host doesn't understand Mailman's language support. I think they don't understand -- see below: To set up a list in French for example, go to the Mailman admin interface Language Options page. Check French under available languages and Submit Your Changes. Then set preferred_language to French and Submit Your Changes again. If this isn't available on your hosted installation, then maybe you can't do it. If you can, then there is nothing that the host has to change to support this that would be reversed in an update. Yes! I went to the Language Options page and yes I can change the default language :-) So now I just have to figure out my next move -- I would really like about 10 or 12 mailing lists for the different languages -- is that possible if I can install Mailman in my 'own space'? My web hosting company doesn't see a problem for me to install Mailman: quote Mailman is to be installed by a username anyway, as noted in the documentation. There might be a few symlinks we have to set up for you, but other than that there's no trick to it. end quote Anyway, you have cheered me up no end :-) Blessings, Nigel -- It's not a problem -- it's a learning opportunity. -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple mailing lists
Nigel Ridley wrote: So now I just have to figure out my next move -- I would really like about 10 or 12 mailing lists for the different languages -- is that possible if I can install Mailman in my 'own space'? There is no fixed limit to the number of lists a Mailman installation can support. The practical limitations are the total file space required, the number of directory entries before searching the directory becomes an issue and the total amount of email traffic. A dozen lists would not be an issue at all. My web hosting company doesn't see a problem for me to install Mailman: quote Mailman is to be installed by a username anyway, as noted in the documentation. There might be a few symlinks we have to set up for you, but other than that there's no trick to it. end quote I think there's a bit more to it than that when it comes to web server and MTA integration, but why not just set up a dozen lists on the hosted Mailman. I would think that if the host is willing to allow you to set up your own Mailman, they would be willing to allow you a dozen lists on the shared Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple mailing lists
they would be willing to allow you a dozen lists on the shared Mailman. I would agree, Mark. BlueHost.com allows me 100 Lists, if that helps! Ed -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Multiple Mailing Lists
I have just installed mailman (pretty painless even for a non-sys-admin like me). It looks like it will work well. Now I am looking for some hints on how I may manage multiple lists centrally. In other words I would like my users to have as painless as possible experience managing their subscriptions. Here are a couple of questions: 1) ABOUT MMSITEPASS COMMAND What if my some odd chance a user selects the password set using the mmsitepass command? Will they be allowed to use that password? If so, they could in fact access anything ... right? Now with that in mind, what if I want to use the mmsitepass for various maintenance operations during a period of time and then remove it to tighten security. Can the password be revoked/removed and then re-invoked from time to time? 2) Is anyone using a single form to provide subscribe / unsubscribe requests to multiple lists? Thanks, Christopher - Christopher VanOosterhout Torresen Marine, Inc. Internet Division http://www.torresen.com 3126 Lake Shore Drive Muskegon, Michigan 49441 231-759-8596 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
