[Mailman-Users] Rejection Message
When posting to a list, if I reply to a reply to a reply, I get a rejection from the server saying The message's content type was not explicitly allowed - but prior to this, the messages get accepted. Any ideas what may be causing this, and what the admin can do (no command line access) to prevent this from happening, please? Rgds MD -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Rejection Message
Martin Dennett wrote: When posting to a list, if I reply to a reply to a reply, I get a rejection from the server saying The message's content type was not explicitly allowed - but prior to this, the messages get accepted. Any ideas what may be causing this, and what the admin can do (no command line access) to prevent this from happening, please? The reject is because after content filtering has been applied, there is nothing left in your message. The list admin can adjust content filtering or turn it off, but this is probably not a good solution. The problem is in the way your MUA is creating this message. It it most likely, being posted as an HTML only message. I am only guessing, but here's what I think is happening: The list is set to remove text/html parts. You post a text/plain message to the list. Someone replies to this message and the reply is multipart/alternative with text/plain and text/html alternatives and the text/plain alternative reaches the list, or maybe the reply is html only and it too is rejected by the list. However, in either case, you are a direct addressee of the reply so you receive it in its original form. Further, your MUA settings include things like reply to messages in the format received and maybe when sending 'rich text' send rich text only. This causes your MUA to compose and send an html only message which is rejected by the list. If you have the original reply and/or a saved copy of your reply to this reply, examine the raw messages to determine the MIME structure/content-types to see what's being sent and received. You may also wish to look at the list archive to see if the original reply is there. The solution is to adjust your MUA to send plain text only and to not reply to messages in the format in which they are sent. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Rejection Message
Mark Thanks as ever. The incoming mail was (appeared to be) in plain text, so I've made an amendment in Thunderbird's settings to reply in plain text. I'll see what happens next time I try to reply as previous. Rgds MD Mark Sapiro wrote: Martin Dennett wrote: When posting to a list, if I reply to a reply to a reply, I get a rejection from the server saying The message's content type was not explicitly allowed - but prior to this, the messages get accepted. Any ideas what may be causing this, and what the admin can do (no command line access) to prevent this from happening, please? The reject is because after content filtering has been applied, there is nothing left in your message. The list admin can adjust content filtering or turn it off, but this is probably not a good solution. The problem is in the way your MUA is creating this message. It it most likely, being posted as an HTML only message. I am only guessing, but here's what I think is happening: The list is set to remove text/html parts. You post a text/plain message to the list. Someone replies to this message and the reply is multipart/alternative with text/plain and text/html alternatives and the text/plain alternative reaches the list, or maybe the reply is html only and it too is rejected by the list. However, in either case, you are a direct addressee of the reply so you receive it in its original form. Further, your MUA settings include things like reply to messages in the format received and maybe when sending 'rich text' send rich text only. This causes your MUA to compose and send an html only message which is rejected by the list. If you have the original reply and/or a saved copy of your reply to this reply, examine the raw messages to determine the MIME structure/content-types to see what's being sent and received. You may also wish to look at the list archive to see if the original reply is there. The solution is to adjust your MUA to send plain text only and to not reply to messages in the format in which they are sent. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Rejection Message
And just to throw a bit more fuel on the fire, my reply to Mark bounced as Reason: spam source blocked :-) Mark Sapiro wrote: Martin Dennett wrote: When posting to a list, if I reply to a reply to a reply, I get a rejection from the server saying The message's content type was not explicitly allowed - but prior to this, the messages get accepted. Any ideas what may be causing this, and what the admin can do (no command line access) to prevent this from happening, please? The reject is because after content filtering has been applied, there is nothing left in your message. The list admin can adjust content filtering or turn it off, but this is probably not a good solution. The problem is in the way your MUA is creating this message. It it most likely, being posted as an HTML only message. I am only guessing, but here's what I think is happening: The list is set to remove text/html parts. You post a text/plain message to the list. Someone replies to this message and the reply is multipart/alternative with text/plain and text/html alternatives and the text/plain alternative reaches the list, or maybe the reply is html only and it too is rejected by the list. However, in either case, you are a direct addressee of the reply so you receive it in its original form. Further, your MUA settings include things like reply to messages in the format received and maybe when sending 'rich text' send rich text only. This causes your MUA to compose and send an html only message which is rejected by the list. If you have the original reply and/or a saved copy of your reply to this reply, examine the raw messages to determine the MIME structure/content-types to see what's being sent and received. You may also wish to look at the list archive to see if the original reply is there. The solution is to adjust your MUA to send plain text only and to not reply to messages in the format in which they are sent. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Rejection Message
Martin Dennett wrote: And just to throw a bit more fuel on the fire, my reply to Mark bounced as Reason: spam source blocked That message comes from Postini when it has blacklisted the IP address that is connecting to it to deliver the mail. If this blacklisting is improper, you can try to submit a sender complaint at http://postini.com/about_postini/complaints.php, but they generally just stonewall and redirect you somewhere outside Postini. Ironically, about a month ago, they started blocking mail from my msapiro.net server, so I couldn't send (B)Ccs to myself. This was apparently because my (fixed with proper rDNS) IP was in the middle of a dslextreme generic block. The only response I got from Postini was contact value.net. Fortunately, value.net was able to get my IP whitelisted. FYI, you can bypass Postini by mailing to me at the mail.value.net domain instead. Also, because of continuing problems I have with this service, I will soon be using a different primary email address which should avoid all of this. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
