Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination

2005-08-10 Thread Tiago Cruz
Brad Knowles escreveu:
 At 3:02 PM -0300 2005-08-09, Tiago Cruz wrote:
  But, when user is not part of list, the Reply to all don't works...
  the new message is formated only to list...
 
 Did you check the Mailman FAQ Wizard at 
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?

Hello Brad, good morning (Brazil :)

Yes, I read the FAQ in
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.048.htp

But, I would like only to use, by default in my mail client:
reply to - reply to my list
reply to all - reply to my list _and_ original destination

Its possible? I don't need control the Reply-to header...

Thanks a lot!
Cheers,

Tiago Cruz


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination

2005-08-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:54 AM -0300 2005-08-10, Tiago Cruz wrote:

  But, I would like only to use, by default in my mail client:
  reply to - reply to my list
  reply to all - reply to my list _and_ original destination

  Its possible? I don't need control the Reply-to header...

If you want to do that, without modifying the Reply-to: header, 
then this sounds like a problem with your client.  The only thing 
that Mailman would be able to do is change the Reply-To: header, 
which is a very bad idea -- for the reasons outlined in the FAQ.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination

2005-08-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
 Tiago == Tiago Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Tiago But, I would like only to use, by default in my mail
Tiago client: reply to - reply to my list reply to all -
Tiago reply to my list _and_ original destination

Tiago Its possible? I don't need control the Reply-to header...

No, it's not possible.  According to the standard for internet mail,
the Reply-To header contains the destination where you can reach the
_author_ of the post.  (If the author chooses to read replies on the
list, she may set Reply-To to the list.  In that case, the behavior
you describe is the behavior you want!)  If Reply-To is not set, then
the From address is used for replies.

Thus, if Reply-To is set, then the standard says that From should be
ignored; mail intended for the author should be directed to Reply-To.
If Reply-To is set to the list, then From is ignored for this reason.
If Reply-To is not set to the list, then neither reply nor reply to
all will reply only to the list.

As far as I know, all reasonable mail agents implement this behavior
(including Eudora and Outlook, which I normally wouldn't class as
reasonable, but for this purpose I'll grant them an exception).

There simply is no solution to this problem as stated; there are too
many options to be handled with one header and two mail agent
commands.

There is, of course, a solution: change your mail agent.  What good
mail agents do is add a third command reply to list to direct
replies to the list if it was received via a list; if not, to the
author.  Now you have exactly the behavior you want.

So the best solution is to configure the list server to leave the
Reply-To header alone and you get a good mail agent.  If you're stuck
with a mail agent that has no reply to list command, then you're
also stuck with the inability to implement the options you prefer.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination

2005-08-10 Thread Tiago Cruz
Stephen J. Turnbull escreveu:

 So the best solution is to configure the list server to leave the
 Reply-To header alone and you get a good mail agent.  If you're stuck
 with a mail agent that has no reply to list command, then you're
 also stuck with the inability to implement the options you prefer.

That's good enough and your letter solved my doubts, thanks!

So, now I'm' going to spam the list of mozilla-thunderbird-devel asking 
for the fucking button: I want a 'reply to list' button :-)

Thanks again, have a nice day!


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination

2005-08-10 Thread John W. Baxter
On 8/10/05 7:36 AM, Tiago Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stephen J. Turnbull escreveu:
 
 So the best solution is to configure the list server to leave the
 Reply-To header alone and you get a good mail agent.  If you're stuck
 with a mail agent that has no reply to list command, then you're
 also stuck with the inability to implement the options you prefer.
 
 That's good enough and your letter solved my doubts, thanks!
 
 So, now I'm' going to spam the list of mozilla-thunderbird-devel asking
 for the button: I want a 'reply to list' button :-)
 
 Thanks again, have a nice day!

Note that with Thunderbird, there could well be a plugin available that does
what you want.  Or not, of course.

But it would be worth checking.

  --John (who has other reasons for not using Thunderbird)


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[Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination

2005-08-09 Thread Tiago Cruz
Hello all!

I see reply_goes_to_list parameter, and I like of This list because a 
simple reply send e-mail always do list.

But, when user is not part of list, the Reply to all don't works... 
the new message is formated only to list...

Have a way to fix this?

Thanks a lot!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination

2005-08-09 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:02 PM -0300 2005-08-09, Tiago Cruz wrote:

  But, when user is not part of list, the Reply to all don't works...
  the new message is formated only to list...

  Have a way to fix this?

Did you check the Mailman FAQ Wizard at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?

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