Re: [Mailman-Users] Sevier Issue with mails, are these compromised?
I've also come to know there are installer script available to get rid of this problem, is it so? I am also suggested to use throttling. Does it solve such issues? Regards, Amit Bhatt - Original Message - From: Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com To: Mailman-Users@python.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Sevier Issue with mails, are these compromised? On Mon, 14 May 2012, Amit Bhatt wrote: Today, I've got an E-Mail from them saying that as per the mail policy, our members can send 500 mails per hour but we are exceeding the number of mails a day! While the fact is we have around 360 members and we send hardly 50 to 60 messages in entire day of 24:00. so, I am unable to understand what's wrong with us. Are some of our mails account got hacked and compromised? I suspect you don't understand how emails are counted. Each list message to each recipinet probably counts as one email. If I'm understanding you correctly, your are sending 50 to 60 messages per day to 360 users. 50 times 360 is 18,000 outgoing messages per day. Hostgator team has send me the number of messages and Email addresses sent from: -- sayeverything-boun...@sayeverything.org: 11,655 That fits with my assumption above. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/misterbhatt%40gmail.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sevier Issue with mails, are these compromised?
Are you referring to the problem that your daily email traffic is 11,655 or more and your host has specific quotas that limit your email volume? If the quota is 500 per hour, that is 12,000 messages total in 24 hours. As you mentioned, your traffic can exceed that level (18,000 outgoing messages per day was mentioned in a prior message). So throttling will not totally solve your problem. It might help a little, but it doesn't sound like a long term solution. I have no idea how an installer script could possibly help. I would say that's likely a misunderstanding. Don't expect an installer script to magically reduce your traffic level or increase your quota on your current host. An installer script might be part of the solution if you move to a new host. Why don't you contact some potential new hosts and see who is willing to help you migrate your list to their service? Good luck. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Amit Bhatt misterbh...@gmail.com wrote: I've also come to know there are installer script available to get rid of this problem, is it so? I am also suggested to use throttling. Does it solve such issues? Regards, Amit Bhatt - Original Message - From: Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com To: Mailman-Users@python.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Sevier Issue with mails, are these compromised? On Mon, 14 May 2012, Amit Bhatt wrote: Today, I've got an E-Mail from them saying that as per the mail policy, our members can send 500 mails per hour but we are exceeding the number of mails a day! While the fact is we have around 360 members and we send hardly 50 to 60 messages in entire day of 24:00. so, I am unable to understand what's wrong with us. Are some of our mails account got hacked and compromised? I suspect you don't understand how emails are counted. Each list message to each recipinet probably counts as one email. If I'm understanding you correctly, your are sending 50 to 60 messages per day to 360 users. 50 times 360 is 18,000 outgoing messages per day. Hostgator team has send me the number of messages and Email addresses sent from: -- sayeverything-bounces@**sayeverything.orgsayeverything-boun...@sayeverything.org: 11,655 That fits with my assumption above. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com --** Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/mailman-usershttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/** mailman-users%40python.org/http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/**mailman/options/mailman-users/** misterbhatt%40gmail.comhttp://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/misterbhatt%40gmail.com --** Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/mailman-usershttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/** mailman-users%40python.org/http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/**mailman/options/mailman-users/** dave%40fiteyes.comhttp://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/dave%40fiteyes.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Sevier Issue with mails, are these compromised?
Hello all, I have recently shifted my site and mailing list on Hostgator server here in India. Today, I've got an E-Mail from them saying that as per the mail policy, our members can send 500 mails per hour but we are exceeding the number of mails a day! While the fact is we have around 360 members and we send hardly 50 to 60 messages in entire day of 24:00. so, I am unable to understand what's wrong with us. Are some of our mails account got hacked and compromised? Hostgator team has send me the number of messages and Email addresses sent from: -- sayeverything-boun...@sayeverything.org: 11,655 mailman-boun...@sayeverything.org: 4 sayev...@in6.hostgator.in: 2 modera...@sayeverything.org: 1 They also send me some Random recipient addresses. Please advise me, what it looks like, problem with some mailman setting at our end? any issue with the technicality of my service provider? or as I suspect, are above mail accounts being misused? Thanks, Amit Bhatt -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sevier Issue with mails, are these compromised?
On Mon, 14 May 2012, Amit Bhatt wrote: Today, I've got an E-Mail from them saying that as per the mail policy, our members can send 500 mails per hour but we are exceeding the number of mails a day! While the fact is we have around 360 members and we send hardly 50 to 60 messages in entire day of 24:00. so, I am unable to understand what's wrong with us. Are some of our mails account got hacked and compromised? I suspect you don't understand how emails are counted. Each list message to each recipinet probably counts as one email. If I'm understanding you correctly, your are sending 50 to 60 messages per day to 360 users. 50 times 360 is 18,000 outgoing messages per day. Hostgator team has send me the number of messages and Email addresses sent from: -- sayeverything-boun...@sayeverything.org: 11,655 That fits with my assumption above. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sevier Issue with mails, are these compromised?
So, does it mean that we cannot run our mailman with hosting provider like Hostgator? If this is the case, who is good service provider where our mailing list can work properly without such interruption. Regards, Amit Bhatt - Original Message - From: Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com To: Mailman-Users@python.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Sevier Issue with mails, are these compromised? On Mon, 14 May 2012, Amit Bhatt wrote: Today, I've got an E-Mail from them saying that as per the mail policy, our members can send 500 mails per hour but we are exceeding the number of mails a day! While the fact is we have around 360 members and we send hardly 50 to 60 messages in entire day of 24:00. so, I am unable to understand what's wrong with us. Are some of our mails account got hacked and compromised? I suspect you don't understand how emails are counted. Each list message to each recipinet probably counts as one email. If I'm understanding you correctly, your are sending 50 to 60 messages per day to 360 users. 50 times 360 is 18,000 outgoing messages per day. Hostgator team has send me the number of messages and Email addresses sent from: -- sayeverything-boun...@sayeverything.org: 11,655 That fits with my assumption above. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/misterbhatt%40gmail.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sevier Issue with mails, are these compromised?
On 5/14/2012 1:21 PM, Amit Bhatt wrote: So, does it mean that we cannot run our mailman with hosting provider like Hostgator? If this is the case, who is good service provider where our mailing list can work properly without such interruption. Regards, Amit Bhatt - Original Message - From: Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com To: Mailman-Users@python.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Sevier Issue with mails, are these compromised? On Mon, 14 May 2012, Amit Bhatt wrote: Today, I've got an E-Mail from them saying that as per the mail policy, our members can send 500 mails per hour but we are exceeding the number of mails a day! While the fact is we have around 360 members and we send hardly 50 to 60 messages in entire day of 24:00. so, I am unable to understand what's wrong with us. Are some of our mails account got hacked and compromised? I suspect you don't understand how emails are counted. Each list message to each recipinet probably counts as one email. If I'm understanding you correctly, your are sending 50 to 60 messages per day to 360 users. 50 times 360 is 18,000 outgoing messages per day. Hostgator team has send me the number of messages and Email addresses sent from: -- sayeverything-boun...@sayeverything.org: 11,655 That fits with my assumption above. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Hi Amit: You will not be able to use that mailman list with Hostgator due to their email limits. I recommend you to check out our mailman hosting services at http://www.mailmanhost.com. We have a number of clients from Hostgator and Bluehost who use us to host their mailman lists since we do not impose any limits on our mailman clients. Please let me know if you have any questions. -- Brian Carpenter Owner | EMWD dotList br...@emwd.com | http://www.emwd.com | http://www.mailmanhost.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
