Re: [Mailman-Users] Wish list: bounce notifications

2017-10-11 Thread Jordan Brown
On 10/11/2017 11:53 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 10/11/2017 07:46 AM, Jordan Brown wrote:
>> What I'd like would be a way to ask Mailman to notify me on *every*
>> bounce, without disabling the user.
>>
>> (Or, of course, if there's just something I've missed in the config
>> pages, please educate me.)
> As mentioned by Christian F Buser in his reply, Since Mailman 2.1.19
> there has been a bounce_notify_owner_on_bounce_increment setting that
> does what you want. Also see
> .

Yep, sorry, duh.  It's new since the last time I did a full sweep
through the options, and I didn't look before writing.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wish list: bounce notifications

2017-10-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/11/2017 07:46 AM, Jordan Brown wrote:
> 
> What I'd like would be a way to ask Mailman to notify me on *every*
> bounce, without disabling the user.
> 
> (Or, of course, if there's just something I've missed in the config
> pages, please educate me.)


As mentioned by Christian F Buser in his reply, Since Mailman 2.1.19
there has been a bounce_notify_owner_on_bounce_increment setting that
does what you want. Also see
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wish list: bounce notifications

2017-10-11 Thread Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users
Hello Jordan Brown. On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:46:57 -0700, you wrote:
> My mailing list is hosted on a low-cost service with shared servers and
> so a couple of times a year some other customer gets them onto a spam
> blacklist and mail starts bouncing.  I need to know about those
> situations ASAP so that I can prod the provider into fixing the problem
> and requesting delisting, but Mailman doesn't seem to have a way to tell
> me when it gets a bounce... only when it's gotten several bounces and
> disabled a membership.  Since I don't want to wait for several bounces,
> I have it set on a hair trigger; it disables people on the first bounce
> and so I immediately get a notification.  That works, kind of, but it
> means that I have an extra re-enable step to repair the damage and that
> if I somehow drop a notification on the floor I can leave somebody disabled.
> 
> What I'd like would be a way to ask Mailman to notify me on *every*
> bounce, without disabling the user.

I think the last 4 settings in the cPanel installation "Bounce processing 
Section" should all be set to YES 

Should Mailman send you, the list owner, any bounce messages that failed to be 
detected by the bounce processor? Yes is recommended. 
(Details for bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner)

Should Mailman notify you, the list owner, when bounces cause a member's bounce 
score to be incremented? 
(Details for bounce_notify_owner_on_bounce_increment)

Should Mailman notify you, the list owner, when bounces cause a member's 
subscription to be disabled? 
(Details for bounce_notify_owner_on_disable)

Should Mailman notify you, the list owner, when bounces cause a member to be 
unsubscribed? 
(Details for bounce_notify_owner_on_removal)

Depending on the possibilities your provider offers, I would imagine that it 
could be possible that you receive a copy of the bounce messages into your 
personal mailbox. 

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[Mailman-Users] Wish list: bounce notifications

2017-10-11 Thread Jordan Brown
My mailing list is hosted on a low-cost service with shared servers and
so a couple of times a year some other customer gets them onto a spam
blacklist and mail starts bouncing.  I need to know about those
situations ASAP so that I can prod the provider into fixing the problem
and requesting delisting, but Mailman doesn't seem to have a way to tell
me when it gets a bounce... only when it's gotten several bounces and
disabled a membership.  Since I don't want to wait for several bounces,
I have it set on a hair trigger; it disables people on the first bounce
and so I immediately get a notification.  That works, kind of, but it
means that I have an extra re-enable step to repair the damage and that
if I somehow drop a notification on the floor I can leave somebody disabled.

What I'd like would be a way to ask Mailman to notify me on *every*
bounce, without disabling the user.

(Or, of course, if there's just something I've missed in the config
pages, please educate me.)


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