subject:"\[Mailman\-Users\] adding a list to a virtual domain"

Re: [Mailman-Users] adding a list to a virtual domain

2009-03-23 Thread David Newman

On 3/23/09 7:44 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> David Newman wrote:
>> I didn't have these two lines:
>>
>> VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
>> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
>>
>> but adding them and restarting apache and mailman, deleting and
>> recreating the list didn't resolve the original error.
> 
> 
> That won't help if your representation of what you have is accurate.
> You show
> 
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
> add_virtualhost('mydomain.tld', 'mail.mydomain.tld')
> 
> make that
> 
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
> VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
> 
> You now have a VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary with one entry with both key
> and value = 'mydomain.tld'. Then
> 
> add_virtualhost('mydomain.tld', 'mail.mydomain.tld')
> 
> replaces that entry with one with key 'mydomain.tld' and value
> 'mail.mydomain.tld'. Every virtual host has to have a unique web host
> because that's the key to look up the corresponding email host.

Ahhh, I see. I missed the part where one add_virtualhost directive's
key/value pair replaces another's. Thanks.

> Also, if your list has email host 'mail.mydomain.tld', no
> virtual-mailman entries will be created for it because
> 
> POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'mydomain.tld' ]
> 
> says only create virtual-mailman entries for lists with email host
> 'mydomain.tld'.

I've just set everything for simply 'mydomain.tld' (I'm only using one
virtual domain at the moment, though that will change in the future),
and all is good now. My mm_cfg.py additions are pasted below.

Thanks again for your help.

dn

MTA = 'Postfix'
MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
add_virtualhost('mydomain.tld', 'mydomain.tld')
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'https://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/'
POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/local/sbin/postalias'
POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/local/sbin/postmap'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'mydomain.tld', 'mydomain.tld' ]
VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes
VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes
VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = Yes
VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes
VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1
OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes

> 
> 
>> You mentioned you'd need more info -- what else do you need?
> 
> 
> I need to know the web and email domains for all the domains that have
> lists - not necessarily the real domain names, but some representation
> of them. I need to know which of these are virtual domains to Postfix.
> 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] adding a list to a virtual domain

2009-03-23 Thread David Newman

On 3/22/09 4:30 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> David Newman wrote:
>> This evening I tried creating a new list but posts from a subscriber to
>> the new list bounce with the message "User unknown in virtual mailbox
>> table."
>>
>> AFAICT Mailman is set up to work with Postfix virtual domains as
>> described in sections 6.1 and 6.2 of the Mailman docs. Mailman runs fine
>> for other lists in this domain on this host.
>>
>> I did notice that the virtual-mailman file was not updated when I
>> created the list at 18:37:
> 
> 
> That probably means that the host whose name is the host_name attribute
> of the new list is not in the mm_cfg.py POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS
> list.

Nope, that wasn't it. host_name was set to mydomain.tld, as per the
mm_cfg.py below.

> 
> 
>> I've also pasted lines from the end of mm_cfg.py below.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for clues as to what's missing here.
>>
>> dn
>>
>>
>>
>>from mm_cfg.py (with the domain name scrubbed out):
>> MTA = 'Postfix'
>> MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman'
>> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
>> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
>> DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
>> PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'https://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
>> IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/'
>> POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/local/sbin/postalias'
>> POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/local/sbin/postmap'
>> POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'mydomain.tld' ]
>> VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes
>> VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes
>> VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = Yes
>> VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes
>> VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1
>> OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes
>> add_virtualhost('mydomain.tld', 'mail.mydomain.tld')
> 
> 
> I need more information to tell you exactly how to fix this, but let me
> give you an example of how this should be set up with two virtual
> hosts with host1's web host = web.example.com and email host =
> mail.example.com and host2's web host = web.example.net and email host
> = mail.example.net and both mail.example.com and mail.example.net
> being Postfix virtual domains and host1 being the one with the
> majority of lists.
> 
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.example.com'
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'web.example.com'
> # above could be the .net domains. It makes now difference other than
> # these are the default domains for bin/newlist and some other things.
> #
> # Clear the Defaults.py VIRTUAL_HOSTS entry
> VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
> #
> # Add the defaults
> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
> # and the other(s)
> add_virtualhost('web.example.net', 'mail.example.net')
> #
> # Update virtual-mailman for lists in both domains
> POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mail.example.com', 'mail.example.net']

I didn't have these two lines:

VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

but adding them and restarting apache and mailman, deleting and
recreating the list didn't resolve the original error.

You mentioned you'd need more info -- what else do you need?

Many thanks.

dn

ps.

On 3/22/09 4:05 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
>
> I hope you mean that you're using 2.1.10 or
> something like that, and not 2.1.0.

Yes, sorry I meant 2.1.10

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Re: [Mailman-Users] adding a list to a virtual domain

2009-03-23 Thread Mark Sapiro

David Newman wrote:
>
>I didn't have these two lines:
>
>VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
>add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
>
>but adding them and restarting apache and mailman, deleting and
>recreating the list didn't resolve the original error.

That won't help if your representation of what you have is accurate.
You show

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
add_virtualhost('mydomain.tld', 'mail.mydomain.tld')

make that

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

You now have a VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary with one entry with both key
and value = 'mydomain.tld'. Then

add_virtualhost('mydomain.tld', 'mail.mydomain.tld')

replaces that entry with one with key 'mydomain.tld' and value
'mail.mydomain.tld'. Every virtual host has to have a unique web host
because that's the key to look up the corresponding email host.

Also, if your list has email host 'mail.mydomain.tld', no
virtual-mailman entries will be created for it because

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'mydomain.tld' ]

says only create virtual-mailman entries for lists with email host
'mydomain.tld'.

>You mentioned you'd need more info -- what else do you need?

I need to know the web and email domains for all the domains that have
lists - not necessarily the real domain names, but some representation
of them. I need to know which of these are virtual domains to Postfix.

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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] adding a list to a virtual domain

2009-03-22 Thread Mark Sapiro

David Newman wrote:
>
>This evening I tried creating a new list but posts from a subscriber to
>the new list bounce with the message "User unknown in virtual mailbox
>table."
>
>AFAICT Mailman is set up to work with Postfix virtual domains as
>described in sections 6.1 and 6.2 of the Mailman docs. Mailman runs fine
>for other lists in this domain on this host.
>
>I did notice that the virtual-mailman file was not updated when I
>created the list at 18:37:

That probably means that the host whose name is the host_name attribute
of the new list is not in the mm_cfg.py POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS
list.

>I've also pasted lines from the end of mm_cfg.py below.
>
>Thanks in advance for clues as to what's missing here.
>
>dn
>
>
>
>from mm_cfg.py (with the domain name scrubbed out):
>
>MTA = 'Postfix'
>MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman'
>DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
>DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
>DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
>PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'https://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
>IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/'
>POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/local/sbin/postalias'
>POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/local/sbin/postmap'
>POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'mydomain.tld' ]
>VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes
>VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes
>VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = Yes
>VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes
>VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1
>OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes
>add_virtualhost('mydomain.tld', 'mail.mydomain.tld')

I need more information to tell you exactly how to fix this, but let me
give you an example of how this should be set up with two virtual
hosts with host1's web host = web.example.com and email host =
mail.example.com and host2's web host = web.example.net and email host
= mail.example.net and both mail.example.com and mail.example.net
being Postfix virtual domains and host1 being the one with the
majority of lists.

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.example.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'web.example.com'
# above could be the .net domains. It makes now difference other than
# these are the default domains for bin/newlist and some other things.
#
# Clear the Defaults.py VIRTUAL_HOSTS entry
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
#
# Add the defaults
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
# and the other(s)
add_virtualhost('web.example.net', 'mail.example.net')
#
# Update virtual-mailman for lists in both domains
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mail.example.com', 'mail.example.net']

The other things you have in mm_cfg.py not specifically mentioned are
OK as is.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] adding a list to a virtual domain

2009-03-22 Thread Brad Knowles


on 3/21/09 9:02 PM, David Newman said:


Greetings. I have a mailserver running OpenBSD 4.4, Postfix 2.5.3 and
Mailman 2.1.0. The machine hosts multiple virtual domains and Mailman
already hosts several mailing lists in one of these domains.


When I got my start with Mailman over five years ago, the current 
version was 2.1.5.  I hope you mean that you're using 2.1.10 or 
something like that, and not 2.1.0.


I'm sorry, I wish I could help with the actual problem, but this really 
stuck out for me.


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[Mailman-Users] adding a list to a virtual domain

2009-03-22 Thread David Newman

Greetings. I have a mailserver running OpenBSD 4.4, Postfix 2.5.3 and
Mailman 2.1.0. The machine hosts multiple virtual domains and Mailman
already hosts several mailing lists in one of these domains.

This evening I tried creating a new list but posts from a subscriber to
the new list bounce with the message "User unknown in virtual mailbox
table."

AFAICT Mailman is set up to work with Postfix virtual domains as
described in sections 6.1 and 6.2 of the Mailman docs. Mailman runs fine
for other lists in this domain on this host.

I did notice that the virtual-mailman file was not updated when I
created the list at 18:37:

r...@mail:data# pwd
/usr/local/mailman/data
r...@mail:data# ls -l
total 164
-rw-r-  1 root mailman 41 Apr 19  2008 adm.pw
-rw-rw  1 root mailman   7596 Mar 21 18:37 aliases
-rw-rw  1 mailman  mailman  65536 Mar 21 18:37 aliases.db
-rw-r-  1 root mailman 41 Apr 19  2008 creator.pw
-rw-r--r--  1 root mailman 10 Apr 22  2008 last_mailman_version
-rw-rw  1 mailman  mailman  6 Feb 19 02:53 master-qrunner.pid
-rw-r--r--  1 root mailman  14114 Jun 21  2008 sitelist.cfg
-rw-rw  1 root mailman   5077 Mar 21 18:33 virtual-mailman
-rw-rw  1 mailman  mailman  65536 Mar 21 18:37 virtual-mailman.db

Not that aliases, aliases.db and virtual-mailman.db all got updated when
I created the new list but virtual-mailman did not. I've tried
restarting apache, postfix and Mailman, but no joy.

I've also pasted lines from the end of mm_cfg.py below.

Thanks in advance for clues as to what's missing here.

dn



from mm_cfg.py (with the domain name scrubbed out):

MTA = 'Postfix'
MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mydomain.tld'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'https://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/'
POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/local/sbin/postalias'
POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/local/sbin/postmap'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'mydomain.tld' ]
VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes
VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes
VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = Yes
VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes
VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1
OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes
add_virtualhost('mydomain.tld', 'mail.mydomain.tld')

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