[Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post
Is there any way to identify which moderator approved a post. I've looked thru the /logs files and didn't see anything. Bruce Harrison UT Martin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post
Bruce Harrison writes: Is there any way to identify which moderator approved a post. I've looked thru the /logs files and didn't see anything. Assuming it was done via the web interface, you could get the timestamp from the Mailman logs, then go to the webserver log and find out who accessed the admindb page at the same time. There is no way for Mailman 2 to identify an individual moderator; moderators are identified by possession of the moderation password, nothing else. I believe this will change in Mailman 3. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post
I don't think the headers show who the moderator would be. Web-server logs sound like a possibility. Anyone done this? Bruce UTM -Original Message- From: Adam McGreggor [mailto:a...@hendricks.amyl.org.uk] On Behalf Of Adam McGreggor Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:41 AM To: Bruce Harrison Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 05:03:57PM +, Bruce Harrison wrote: Is there any way to identify which moderator approved a post. I've looked thru the /logs files and didn't see anything. Check your web-server logs for the IP address, and work from there? Or if by email, look at headers? -- Ink is handicapped, in a way, because you can blow up a man with gunpowder in half a second, while it may take twenty years to blow him up with a book. But the gunpowder destroys itself along with its victim, while a book can keep on exploding for centuries. -- Christopher Morley -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post
Glad to hear it's changing. We have several lists on campus with 20+ moderators. Some will approve anything without paying attention at all :) Was just poking around in the access_log, looks like that may do it. Thanks! Bruce -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:step...@xemacs.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:42 AM To: Bruce Harrison Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post Bruce Harrison writes: Is there any way to identify which moderator approved a post. I've looked thru the /logs files and didn't see anything. Assuming it was done via the web interface, you could get the timestamp from the Mailman logs, then go to the webserver log and find out who accessed the admindb page at the same time. There is no way for Mailman 2 to identify an individual moderator; moderators are identified by possession of the moderation password, nothing else. I believe this will change in Mailman 3. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 05:42:52PM +, Bruce Harrison wrote: I don't think the headers show who the moderator would be. Message-ID, perhaps? -- In matters of grave importance, style, not sincerity, is the vital thing -- The Importance of Being Earnest -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 05:03:57PM +, Bruce Harrison wrote: Is there any way to identify which moderator approved a post. I've looked thru the /logs files and didn't see anything. Check your web-server logs for the IP address, and work from there? Or if by email, look at headers? -- Ink is handicapped, in a way, because you can blow up a man with gunpowder in half a second, while it may take twenty years to blow him up with a book. But the gunpowder destroys itself along with its victim, while a book can keep on exploding for centuries. -- Christopher Morley -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post
The idea of matching web log entries (access_log) with timestamp works fine. Also noticed that the email address of the approved message is also in the log, which makes it much easier. Entry from access_log was: 10.x.x.x - - [17/Jan/2012:17:35:52 -0600] GET /mailman/admindb/information?sender=%40utm.edu HTTP/1.1 200 7069 10.x.x.x - - [17/Jan/2012:17:35:58 -0600] POST /mailman/admindb/information HTTP/1.1 200 6655 From the vette log: Jan 16 07:08:40 2012 (1213) Information post from zzz...@utm.edu held, message-id=41cfeeecacd0fa4d9308d660fc54311a1f4a4...@exch2010mbox1.utm.edu: Post to moderated list Jan 17 17:35:58 2012 (18899) held message approved, message-id: 41cfeeecacd0fa4d9308d660fc54311a1f4a4...@exch2010mbox1.utm.edu Corresponds nicely with the timestamp of the email received from that list. About a 6 minute delay, but the list has 1200+ people on it... Our weblogs were in /usr/local/apache2/logs Bruce UTM Original Message- From: Adam McGreggor [mailto:a...@hendricks.amyl.org.uk] On Behalf Of Adam McGreggor Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:59 AM To: Bruce Harrison Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 05:42:52PM +, Bruce Harrison wrote: I don't think the headers show who the moderator would be. Message-ID, perhaps? -- In matters of grave importance, style, not sincerity, is the vital thing -- The Importance of Being Earnest -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post
Bruce Harrison wrote: The idea of matching web log entries (access_log) with timestamp works fine. Also noticed that the email address of the approved message is also in the log, which makes it much easier. Entry from access_log was: 10.x.x.x - - [17/Jan/2012:17:35:52 -0600] GET /mailman/admindb/information?sender=%40utm.edu HTTP/1.1 200 7069 10.x.x.x - - [17/Jan/2012:17:35:58 -0600] POST /mailman/admindb/information HTTP/1.1 200 6655 The ?sender=%40utm.edu fragment won't always be there. It is there this time because the moderator followed the link to view all messages from z...@utm.edu before approving the message. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post
Ah... thanks for the heads-up! In our case, the IP and time can lead me to the computer as well. Thanks! Bruce -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:45 PM To: Bruce Harrison; mailman-users@python.org Cc: Terry Lewis Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] identifying moderator that approved a post Bruce Harrison wrote: The idea of matching web log entries (access_log) with timestamp works fine. Also noticed that the email address of the approved message is also in the log, which makes it much easier. Entry from access_log was: 10.x.x.x - - [17/Jan/2012:17:35:52 -0600] GET /mailman/admindb/information?sender=%40utm.edu HTTP/1.1 200 7069 10.x.x.x - - [17/Jan/2012:17:35:58 -0600] POST /mailman/admindb/information HTTP/1.1 200 6655 The ?sender=%40utm.edu fragment won't always be there. It is there this time because the moderator followed the link to view all messages from z...@utm.edu before approving the message. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
