[Mailman-Users] ip_addresse rather than hostname in forms?

2003-07-31 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
How can I configure a list to use an ip address in its listname instead
of the hostname? For example I'd like all references to the list to be
based on the machines ip address (i.e on the listinfo page To post a
message to all the list menebers, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED], or when monthly reminders go out to
use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well.

Is this possible?

Thanks,

Kirk 




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Re: [Mailman-Users] ip_addresse rather than hostname in forms?

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Barrett
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 02:05  pm, Kirk R. Wythers wrote:

How can I configure a list to use an ip address in its listname instead
of the hostname? For example I'd like all references to the list to be
based on the machines ip address (i.e on the listinfo page To post a
message to all the list menebers, send email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED], or when monthly reminders go out to
use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well.

Is this possible?

I think you are going to be out of luck.

SMTP mail addressing is done in terms of domains, that is the FQDN of 
mail hosts. For instance MX records are usually specified in respect of 
FQDNs with nary a IP number in sight. This, for instance, this allows 
mail hosts on private IP numbers to function  so long as some publicly 
IP numbered mail relay with access to that internal network will relay 
mail for the privately IP numbered mail host. Most MTAs check the 
acceptability of domains in mail addresses by doing DNS lookup.

I do not think using IP numbers instead of FQDNs is going to work but I 
am open to being corrected.

What problem are you trying to solve with your proposal?

Thanks,

Kirk



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Re: [Mailman-Users] ip_addresse rather than hostname in forms?

2003-07-31 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
What would happen if I simply changed the 

Host name this list prefers for email. 
(Details for host_name)

line, on the administrative interface page?


On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 14:11, Richard Barrett wrote:

 SMTP mail addressing is done in terms of domains, that is the FQDN of 
 mail hosts. For instance MX records are usually specified in respect of 
 FQDNs with nary a IP number in sight. This, for instance, this allows 
 mail hosts on private IP numbers to function  so long as some publicly 
 IP numbered mail relay with access to that internal network will relay 
 mail for the privately IP numbered mail host. Most MTAs check the 
 acceptability of domains in mail addresses by doing DNS lookup.
 
 I do not think using IP numbers instead of FQDNs is going to work but I 
 am open to being corrected.
 
 What problem are you trying to solve with your proposal?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Kirk
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] ip_addresse rather than hostname in forms?

2003-07-31 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:05:41PM +, Kirk R. Wythers wrote:
 How can I configure a list to use an ip address in its listname instead
 of the hostname? For example I'd like all references to the list to be
 based on the machines ip address (i.e on the listinfo page To post a
 message to all the list menebers, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED], or when monthly reminders go out to
 use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well.
 
 Is this possible?

It should be possible, but I'd seriously question the reason for doing
so.  It's trivial and cheap these days to set up your own domain and
have it hosted by a free DNS provider like zoneedit.com.  Even dynamic
IP users (like I am) can make this work without a lot of hassles and
expense.

For your hostname, try the IP address in square brackets, like
[1.2.3.4].  Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] should work, but as I said, you
really, really don't want to do this.

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