Re: [Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)

2003-10-06 Thread Vivek Khera
 WY == Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

WY Lastly, is there a way to get Mailman to record information about
WY confirmation of a subscription (if a link was clicked, from what IP; if
WY via an email message, the headers of the message)? Is there a way to

I've got some consulting money sitting about for someone to write such
a feature into Mailman -- keeping record of the confirmation request
and the confirmation response (either email or clickthrough data).

Please contact me offlist if interested.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)

2003-10-06 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 10:34:26AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote:
  WY == Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 WY Lastly, is there a way to get Mailman to record information about
 WY confirmation of a subscription (if a link was clicked, from what IP; if
 WY via an email message, the headers of the message)? Is there a way to
 
 I've got some consulting money sitting about for someone to write such
 a feature into Mailman -- keeping record of the confirmation request
 and the confirmation response (either email or clickthrough data).

Given the new anti-spam law coming into California with the burden of
proof being on the e-mail sender that the user has really opted in, I
don't see how we can avoid having this feature in Mailman.  Some of run
commercial mailing lists and it will be imperative for us to be able to
demonstrate that the user really opted in.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)

2003-10-06 Thread Vivek Khera
 EW == Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've got some consulting money sitting about for someone to write such
 a feature into Mailman -- keeping record of the confirmation request
 and the confirmation response (either email or clickthrough data).

EW Given the new anti-spam law coming into California with the burden of
EW proof being on the e-mail sender that the user has really opted in, I
EW don't see how we can avoid having this feature in Mailman.  Some of run

Exactly.  And I'm willing to be the one to pay someone to build it in
sooner rather than later.  For similar reasons, I believe the other
request of having a tunable to disable uploads but keep invitations
is also necessary.  I might pay for that too, if it wasn't too much
more.


I know that I can permanently keep all mail logs and web server logs
and mailman logs as proof, but that's just too much unnecessary data.
I want to be able to go in as the admin of the site (NOT the list
owner -- they could see the secret token from the confirmation message
and email/click it themselves) and review that information by pulling
up the record of an individual address.

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[Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)

2003-10-03 Thread Will Yardley
Is there an option to disable mass-subscription from the web interface,
so that users can't add non-confirmed addresses themselves?

Is there an option to require re-confirmation for addresses added (I
guess only allowing invite but not subscribe would take care of
this.

Lastly, is there a way to get Mailman to record information about
confirmation of a subscription (if a link was clicked, from what IP; if
via an email message, the headers of the message)? Is there a way to
tell whether a user was mass-subscribed or confirmed their subscription
to the list?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)

2003-10-03 Thread Jon Carnes
This would be a fairly simple hack to the source.  You would simply grep
for the option you want to comment out and when you find it in the
source, comment it out.  Then it won't appear in the web pages (that
would be for every list).


On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 18:31, Will Yardley wrote:
 Is there an option to disable mass-subscription from the web interface,
 so that users can't add non-confirmed addresses themselves?
 
 Is there an option to require re-confirmation for addresses added (I
 guess only allowing invite but not subscribe would take care of
 this.
 
 Lastly, is there a way to get Mailman to record information about
 confirmation of a subscription (if a link was clicked, from what IP; if
 via an email message, the headers of the message)? Is there a way to
 tell whether a user was mass-subscribed or confirmed their subscription
 to the list?


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