Re: [Mailman-Users] restart question

2002-10-14 Thread Jon Carnes

Off hand, I would say that your server ran out of space (or something
worse).  In which case, only the sysadmin can rescue you!

Good Luck 

On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 23:14, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
 WhitmoreWebWorks wrote:
 
  Do you think there could be something
  wrong with the server that is doing this?
 
 The fact that you have processes that are hanging (besides just mailman), yes.
 
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[Mailman-Users] restart question

2002-10-13 Thread mailman


qrunner is showing all kinds of lock files all of a sudden.  The server 
had some issues today and had been rebooted a couple of times - then the 
lock files appeared.  Do I need to restart something with Mailman?  It 
looks like messages aren't coming thru.  I'm using 2.0.13

Thanks in advance
Valerie


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Re: [Mailman-Users] restart question

2002-10-13 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 qrunner is showing all kinds of lock files all of a sudden.  The server
 had some issues today and had been rebooted a couple of times - then the
 lock files appeared.  Do I need to restart something with Mailman?  It
 looks like messages aren't coming thru.  I'm using 2.0.13

Just delete those lock files.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] restart question

2002-10-13 Thread WhitmoreWebWorks



 
 Just delete those lock files.
 

Well, I had done that - but more kept coming.  For the same lists that had 
developed lock files.  Should I be checking those individual lists for 
errors?  Sorry - I just am not sure where I should be looking to fix this 
mess.

-valerie


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Re: [Mailman-Users] restart question

2002-10-13 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

WhitmoreWebWorks wrote:

 Well, I had done that - but more kept coming.  For the same lists that had
 developed lock files.  Should I be checking those individual lists for
 errors?  Sorry - I just am not sure where I should be looking to fix this
 mess.

Mailman creates lock files whenever it's accessing the config.db file.  This
happens both through qrunner, as well as any access to the web interface.  The
difference is that the web interface creates short lock files - short in the
sense that they will get deleted as soon as that task is done (whether you're
logging in, or viewing one of the membership pages.)

Qrunner on the other hand creates a lock file for as long as it needs it -
and it's that length of time that may be a problem.  If it's taking more than
(the default) 5 minutes for qrunner to finish its task, that lock file can
become stale when cron fires off a second qrunner task.

One thing you could do is this:  temporarily remove the qrunner task from
cron.  Then manually try to run it and see how long it takes.  If it takes a
while to run, you may have to adjust your cron time.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] restart question

2002-10-13 Thread WhitmoreWebWorks



Hmmm...well, it doesn't seem to be recreating those lock files now - but 
still no mail is coming thru.  

I'm at a loss as to what to try next.  The server has been hanging on 
processes all day (non mailman ones too).  

I'm still learning all the server stuff (I really never wanted to manage a 
server but had no choice!).  How do I check the cron entries to see if 
they are working?  Where else would you recommend looking for problems?  
Everything was working fine until this morning.  I had to kill a qrunner 
process that wouldn't let go and overloaded the server.  I then upgraded 
CPanel - which automatically upgraded mailman from 2.0.11 to 2.0.13.  Then 
- nothing worked.


On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

 WhitmoreWebWorks wrote:
 
  Well, I had done that - but more kept coming.  For the same lists that had
  developed lock files.  Should I be checking those individual lists for
  errors?  Sorry - I just am not sure where I should be looking to fix this
  mess.
 
 Mailman creates lock files whenever it's accessing the config.db file.  This
 happens both through qrunner, as well as any access to the web interface.  The
 difference is that the web interface creates short lock files - short in the
 sense that they will get deleted as soon as that task is done (whether you're
 logging in, or viewing one of the membership pages.)
 
 Qrunner on the other hand creates a lock file for as long as it needs it -
 and it's that length of time that may be a problem.  If it's taking more than
 (the default) 5 minutes for qrunner to finish its task, that lock file can
 become stale when cron fires off a second qrunner task.
 
 One thing you could do is this:  temporarily remove the qrunner task from
 cron.  Then manually try to run it and see how long it takes.  If it takes a
 while to run, you may have to adjust your cron time.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] restart question

2002-10-13 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

WhitmoreWebWorks wrote:

 Do you think there could be something
 wrong with the server that is doing this?

The fact that you have processes that are hanging (besides just mailman), yes.

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