[Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
Apologies if this problem has been dealt with before but I am unable to find an answer anywhere in the archives. Problem is this: I can create a new mailing list no problems and subscribe a handful of users to it and send out email without any dramas but as soon as I import the entire mailing list subscribers (152 members so not big by any stretch of the imagination) nothing goes out. It all appears to work fine but no emails go out. This is driving me nuts so any help would be greatly appreciated. Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) 001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au smtp to members for 152 recips, completed in 14.395 seconds Mailman post log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) post to members from p...@amdaat.com.au, size=24613, message-id=001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au, success Regards Paul -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
* Paul Flower p...@amdaat.com.au: Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) 001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au smtp to members for 152 recips, completed in 14.395 seconds And in your MTA's logs? -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
On 6/17/2010 6:33 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Paul Flower p...@amdaat.com.au: Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) 001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au smtp to members for 152 recips, completed in 14.395 seconds And in your MTA's logs? As Ralf suggests, this is now a sendmail issue. Mailman has successfully delivered the mail to sendmail per the above. How does sendmail deliver? does it deliver directly or via a smarthost. If it is via a smarthost, it is possible that the mail is being delivered to and relayed by sendmail as a single message with 152 RCPTs, and the smarthost doesn't accept that many RCPTs. If that is the case, setting say SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 10 or so in mm_cfg.py may help. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
-Original Message- From: mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac...@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac...@python.org] On Behalf Of Paul Flower Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:55 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues Problem is this: I can create a new mailing list no problems and subscribe a handful of users to it and send out email without any dramas but as soon as I import the entire mailing list subscribers (152 members so not big by any stretch of the imagination) nothing goes out. It all appears to work fine but no emails go out. Immediate diagnostics, as others have suggested, involve looking at the logfiles for your MTA and checking that they have actually been sent. It could be that your network provider has a mechanism for side-spooling/delaying/blackholing email subsmissions to large numbers of recipients. So sending to 20 addresses would be OK, but one you start sending to more than that the email is automatically quarantined in the event that it may prove to be spam. Check with your network provider to make sure that there are no limits in place that may have delayed your outbound emails. Also check with your local system's mail spool and make sure that the emails aren't all sat in an outbound queue waiting to be cleared/sent. Good luck, Steff --- Steff WatkinsNatural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD Systems programmer Email: s.watk...@nhm.ac.uk Systems TeamPhone: +44 (0)20 7942 6000 opt 2 Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans. - HHGTTG -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
Should have put this in the first post. Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: to=|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members, ctladdr=memb...@makos.com.au (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Regards Paul -Original Message- From: mailman-users-bounces+paul=amdaat.com...@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+paul=amdaat.com...@python.org] On Behalf Of Ralf Hildebrandt Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2010 9:34 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues * Paul Flower p...@amdaat.com.au: Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) 001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au smtp to members for 152 recips, completed in 14.395 seconds And in your MTA's logs? -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/paul%40amdaat.com.au --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100617-0, 17/06/2010 Tested on: 17/06/2010 9:39:44 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
* Paul Flower p...@amdaat.com.au: Should have put this in the first post. Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: to=|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members, ctladdr=memb...@makos.com.au (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent And after that? That's goes INTO mailman, and causes the admin mail there's sth to approve Note the timestamp: 20:23:42 + 14.395 20:23:58 Please do grep for the messageid: 001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au Mailman smtp log - Jun 17 20:23:58 2010 (2599) 001d01cb0e17$ebfc2c80$c3f485...@com.au smtp to members for 152 recips, completed in 14.395 seconds And in your MTA's logs? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
On 6/17/2010 7:13 AM, Paul Flower wrote: Should have put this in the first post. Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: to=|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members, ctladdr=memb...@makos.com.au (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent That is the delivery from sendmail to Mailman of the original incoming post. It has nothing directly to do with the delivery of the outgoing post to the 152 recipients. What is in the sendmail log for the delivery from Mailman? Is Mailman even delivering to this sendmail (is SMTPHOST set to other than 'localhost' in mm_cfg.py)? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues
A big thank you to everyone who responded your assistance was greatly appreciated. The problem has been resolved with the insertion of SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 10 into mm_cfg.py Once again thank you all. Regards Paul -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:20 PM To: Paul Flower Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail issues On 6/17/2010 7:13 AM, Paul Flower wrote: Should have put this in the first post. Jun 17 20:23:42 ns0 sendmail[23013]: o5HCNfne023011: to=|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post members, ctladdr=memb...@makos.com.au (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=53518, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent That is the delivery from sendmail to Mailman of the original incoming post. It has nothing directly to do with the delivery of the outgoing post to the 152 recipients. What is in the sendmail log for the delivery from Mailman? Is Mailman even delivering to this sendmail (is SMTPHOST set to other than 'localhost' in mm_cfg.py)? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100617-0, 17/06/2010 Tested on: 17/06/2010 10:21:12 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail issues with mailman
* Gordon Dahlby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The maillist is being treated as a send mail user and my Sendmail is rejecting it as the user is not known. The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 2/12/2003 3:08 PM 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown Make sure your sendmail aliases are setup correctly. When you create a list with the 'newlist' command, there will be printed to the screen a list of aliases to be added to your sendmail aliases. This is a section of my /etc/mailman.aliases ## test mailing list test: |/home/mailman2/mail/mailman post test test-admin:|/home/mailman2/mail/mailman admin test test-bounces: |/home/mailman2/mail/mailman bounces test test-confirm: |/home/mailman2/mail/mailman confirm test test-join: |/home/mailman2/mail/mailman join test test-leave:|/home/mailman2/mail/mailman leave test test-owner:|/home/mailman2/mail/mailman owner test test-request: |/home/mailman2/mail/mailman request test test-subscribe:|/home/mailman2/mail/mailman subscribe test test-unsubscribe: |/home/mailman2/mail/mailman unsubscribe test So I add all mailman aliases to that file and I add 'O AliasFile=/etc/mailman.aliases' to my sendmail.cf or 'alias_maps = hash:/etc/mailman.aliases' for postfix. But for postfix mailman 2.1, alias_maps = hash:/home/mailman2/data/aliases would be smarter. See README.POSTFIX -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ Q: All your responses must be oral, OK? What school did you go to? A: Oral. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Sendmail issues with mailman
I have had issues with my sendmail being an open relay, so I have tighten
down security. While I know this is not your organizations responsibility,
I was wondering if anyone else had ideas.
The maillist is being treated as a send mail user and my Sendmail is
rejecting it as the user is not known.
Any thoughts? {Thank you in advance for your time.}
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 2/12/2003 3:08 PM
550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown
Gordon K. Dahlby
Director of Curriculum and Technology
West Des Moines Community Schools, West Des Moines, IA 50265
ISTE SIG Technology Coordinators, Past-President (listserv
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