Re: [Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting

2008-07-17 Thread Dragon

Dony Tata wrote:
how to make mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the 
same machine from web, i use postfix and mailman 2.1.5 patch true 
virtual hosting. Patch true virtual hosting from 
https://lethe.koumbit.net/svn/koumbit/trunk/patches/mailman-true-virtual-2.1.5.patch;. 
i got the error  list already exits

 End original message. -

In short, right now under the current default mailman code base, you can't.

The list names MUST be unique.

Now having said that, there are ways to make it happen but they are 
not simple and may require code modifications. cPanel has modified 
their distribution of mailman to munge the domain with the list name 
behind the scenes to support this.


I believe there is another way to do so by running multiple instances 
of mailman in separate directories. You would have to set up your 
aliases or mail routing to deliver to the appropriate instance for 
each domain. However, I don't know exactly how to do that.




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Re: [Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting

2008-07-17 Thread Mark Sapiro

Dony Tata wrote:

how to make mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the
same machine from web, i use postfix and mailman 2.1.5 patch true
virtual hosting. Patch true virtual hosting from
https://lethe.koumbit.net/svn/koumbit/trunk/patches/mailman-true-virtual-2.1.5.patch;.
i got the error  list already exits



This feature is scheduled for support in Mailman 3. In the mean time, if 
you use a non-standard, unsupported patch, you may be able to get help 
from the author.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting

2008-07-17 Thread Michael Kabot
Dony,

As the developers have pointed out you can:

1. Wait for Mailman 3.0
2. Use CPanel which has modified Mailman to support virtual hosts
3. Use the patch you found and get support from the developer and most
likely remain on an older version of Mailman

I have another method that I use with Plesk/Qmail that gets around the issue
without modifying Mailman.  Basically you append the hostname to the
listname for each list.  You then create aliases for the listname within the
virtual host that point to the combined hostname-listname Mailman addresses.
This gets around the single namespace issue.  There is a little overhead do
to the aliases but it is all internal to the machine you are running on.

Happy to provider further details off list if you are interested.


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|  how to make mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the
|  same machine from web, i use postfix and mailman 2.1.5 patch true
|  virtual hosting. Patch true virtual hosting from
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| virtual-2.1.5.patch.
|  i got the error  list already exits
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| This feature is scheduled for support in Mailman 3. In the mean time,
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[Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting

2008-07-16 Thread Dony Tata
how to make mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the same 
machine from web, i use postfix and mailman 2.1.5 patch true virtual hosting. 
Patch true virtual hosting from 
https://lethe.koumbit.net/svn/koumbit/trunk/patches/mailman-true-virtual-2.1.5.patch;.
 i got the error  list already exits
in mm_cfg.py i configure like this
DEFAULT_URL_HOST   = 'xxx..dom.org'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'xxx.dom.org'

VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
add_virtualhost('yyy.dom.org', 'yyy.dom.org')

MTA = 'Postfix'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['yyy.dom.org']

in postfix i configure like this
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/etc/mailman/aliases
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix
debug_peer_level = 2
html_directory = no
inet_interfaces = all
mail_owner = postfix
mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix
manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, $mydomain, localhost
mydomain = dom.org
myhostname = xxx.dom.org
mynetworks = 172.18.3.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8
newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.3.3/README_FILES
recipient_delimiter = +
sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.3.3/samples
sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
setgid_group = postdrop
unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550
virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/mailman/virtual-mailman


  
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[Mailman-Users] True virtual hosting patch for 2.1.9

2007-03-07 Thread noc
Hi,

I've applied mailman-vh-2.1.7.patch from http://nix.lauft.net/mailman/  
to my mailman 2.1.9 (running on fedora core 5).

But I can't create same list name on different domains ... where  
should I look to fix this problem ? Any tips or logs ?

Thanks !

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Re: [Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting with mailman-2.1.5

2005-03-18 Thread Christian Anton
Mark Sapiro wrote:
Over the UI i can't create a List either. I have the following in my 
mm_cfg.py:

##
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
SMTPPORT = 10025
SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 1000
MTA = 'Postfix'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'gentix.de'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.gentix.de'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'de'
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.citservice.de']
I configured a virtual host http://lists.citservice.de and i can access 
the cgi's of mailman under the URL http://lists.citservice.de/mailman/. 
When I access http://lists.citservice.de/mailman/create and want to 
create a new list 'testlist' i get an error:  Error: Unknown virtual 
host: lists.citservice.de. What am i doing wrong?
   

DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
is not needed in mm_cfg.py because it doesn't change the default from
Defaults.py. However, you need all of the following in mm_cfg.py after
the DEFAULT_URL_HOST line.
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
add_virtualhost('lists.citservice.de', 'citservice.de')
assuming that citservice.de is the correct e-mail host to go with
lists.citservice.de. Also, the POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS should be
['citservice.de'] unless the e-mail host really is
'lists.citservice.de' in which case the second add_virtualhost()
should be
add_virtualhost('lists.citservice.de', 'lists.citservice.de')
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I updated my config as follows:
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
SMTPPORT = 10025
SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 1000
MTA = 'Postfix'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'gentix.de'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.gentix.de'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
add_virtualhost('lists.citservice.de', 'lists.citservice.de')
DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'de'
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.citservice.de']
I really want to use 'lists.citservice.de' as email host. Adding a new 
list with the shell command
'newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]' creates a new list, very fine. I 
get the message from mailman that my new list is created. But the 
automatically created virtual_mailman file is wrong format:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
liste2-lists.citservice.de
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
liste2-lists.citservice.de-admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
liste2-lists.citservice.de-bounces
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
liste2-lists.citservice.de-confirm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
liste2-lists.citservice.de-join
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
liste2-lists.citservice.de-leave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
liste2-lists.citservice.de-owner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
liste2-lists.citservice.de-request
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
liste2-lists.citservice.de-subscribe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
liste2-lists.citservice.de-unsubscribe

when it would have to be
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  liste2-lists.citservice.de
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  liste2-lists.citservice.de-admin
Can you tell me what i didn't understand?
Thank you very much
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Re: [Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting with mailman-2.1.5

2005-03-18 Thread Christian Anton
Mark Sapiro wrote:
Christian Anton wrote:
 

i got it installing finally, applying the patch line after line manually 
in editor. It installes everything fine, but now when i want to create a 
list mailman i get the following error:

ipx10995 mailman # ./bin/newlist
Name der Mailingliste: mailman
e-Mailadresse des Listenverwalters: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Erstmaliges Passwort für die Liste mailman:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File ./bin/newlist, line 219, in ?
  main()
File ./bin/newlist, line 160, in main
  mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw)
File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 455, in Create
  postingaddr = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' % (firstname, domain)
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'firstname' referenced before assignment
   

The error occurs in a patched line indicating a problem with the patch.
The submitter of the patch has made some recent changes (yesterday). I
suggest you go back to
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=943827group_id=103atid=300103
and follow the link in the recent comment to the latest 2.1.4 patch
and use that as a starting point.
 

this part is working fine now. I got the new patch, the patch's author 
sent it to me.

Thank you!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting with mailman-2.1.5

2005-03-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christian Anton wrote:

Adding a new 
list with the shell command
'newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]' creates a new list, very fine. I 
get the message from mailman that my new list is created. But the 
automatically created virtual_mailman file is wrong format:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
liste2-lists.citservice.de
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
liste2-lists.citservice.de-admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
liste2-lists.citservice.de-bounces
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
liste2-lists.citservice.de-confirm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
liste2-lists.citservice.de-join
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
liste2-lists.citservice.de-leave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
liste2-lists.citservice.de-owner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
liste2-lists.citservice.de-request
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
liste2-lists.citservice.de-subscribe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
liste2-lists.citservice.de-unsubscribe

when it would have to be
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  liste2-lists.citservice.de
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  liste2-lists.citservice.de-admin

Can you tell me what i didn't understand?

Standard unpatched Mailman supports virtual hosts but with the
restriction that two lists on two different hosts cannot have the same
name.

The patch you installed attempts to overcome this restriction by
appending the domain name to the list name in order to create a unique
name for all lists.

It does look like there is an issue with the generated aliases created
when this patch is used. This issue would have to be discussed with
the originator of the patch.

Note that if you are willing to accept the unique naming restriction,
you can use Mailman in a virtual hosting environment without patching.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting with mailman-2.1.5

2005-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christian Anton wrote:

i got it installing finally, applying the patch line after line manually 
in editor. It installes everything fine, but now when i want to create a 
list mailman i get the following error:

ipx10995 mailman # ./bin/newlist
Name der Mailingliste: mailman
e-Mailadresse des Listenverwalters: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Erstmaliges Passwort für die Liste mailman:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./bin/newlist, line 219, in ?
main()
  File ./bin/newlist, line 160, in main
mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 455, in Create
postingaddr = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' % (firstname, domain)
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'firstname' referenced before assignment

The error occurs in a patched line indicating a problem with the patch.
The submitter of the patch has made some recent changes (yesterday). I
suggest you go back to
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=943827group_id=103atid=300103
and follow the link in the recent comment to the latest 2.1.4 patch
and use that as a starting point.

Over the UI i can't create a List either. I have the following in my 
mm_cfg.py:

##
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.

DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
SMTPPORT = 10025
SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 1000
MTA = 'Postfix'

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'gentix.de'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.gentix.de'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'

DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'de'
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/'

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.citservice.de']

I configured a virtual host http://lists.citservice.de and i can access 
the cgi's of mailman under the URL http://lists.citservice.de/mailman/. 
When I access http://lists.citservice.de/mailman/create and want to 
create a new list 'testlist' i get an error:  Error: Unknown virtual 
host: lists.citservice.de. What am i doing wrong?

DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'

is not needed in mm_cfg.py because it doesn't change the default from
Defaults.py. However, you need all of the following in mm_cfg.py after
the DEFAULT_URL_HOST line.

VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
add_virtualhost('lists.citservice.de', 'citservice.de')

assuming that citservice.de is the correct e-mail host to go with
lists.citservice.de. Also, the POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS should be
['citservice.de'] unless the e-mail host really is
'lists.citservice.de' in which case the second add_virtualhost()
should be

add_virtualhost('lists.citservice.de', 'lists.citservice.de')

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Re: [Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting with mailman-2.1.5

2005-03-16 Thread Christian Anton

Indentation is critical in Python. You have not properly matched
indentation between the patch and the base in MailList.py. It is
safest to indent with spaces only. Mixing spaces and tabs in one file
causes problems.
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Hi again,
i got it installing finally, applying the patch line after line manually 
in editor. It installes everything fine, but now when i want to create a 
list mailman i get the following error:

ipx10995 mailman # ./bin/newlist
Name der Mailingliste: mailman
e-Mailadresse des Listenverwalters: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Erstmaliges Passwort für die Liste mailman:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File ./bin/newlist, line 219, in ?
   main()
 File ./bin/newlist, line 160, in main
   mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw)
 File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 455, in Create
   postingaddr = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' % (firstname, domain)
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'firstname' referenced before assignment
Over the UI i can't create a List either. I have the following in my 
mm_cfg.py:

##
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
SMTPPORT = 10025
SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 1000
MTA = 'Postfix'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'gentix.de'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.gentix.de'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'de'
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.citservice.de']
I configured a virtual host http://lists.citservice.de and i can access 
the cgi's of mailman under the URL http://lists.citservice.de/mailman/. 
When I access http://lists.citservice.de/mailman/create and want to 
create a new list 'testlist' i get an error:  Error: Unknown virtual 
host: lists.citservice.de. What am i doing wrong?

Greets
Christian
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[Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting with mailman-2.1.5

2005-03-14 Thread Christian Anton
Hi everybody!
I'm wanting to use mailman on a postfix-powered machine with virtual 
domains. As i found out that out-of-the-box mailman does not support 
this fine (one only namespace for mailing list names etc) i found this 
patch in the FAQ of mailman:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=943827group_id=103atid=300103

The problem i have with it is that it seems to be for an older version 
of mailman. It says something of version 2.1.1. I'm using 2.1.5 so it 
will not apply. I tried to patch the file manually reading the patch and 
making the changes in the source file, everything installes fine but 
when i try to access mailman's listinfo cgi with a browser, i get this:

Mar 14 17:45:11 2005 admin(4153): 

admin(4153): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.5 -]
admin(4153): [- Traceback --]
admin(4153): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(4153):   File /home/mailman/scripts/driver, line 94, in run_main
admin(4153): pkg = __import__('Mailman.Cgi', globals(), locals(), 
[scriptname])
admin(4153):   File /home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py, line 27, in ?
admin(4153): from Mailman import MailList
admin(4153): IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer 
indentation level (MailList.py, line 449)
admin(4153): [- Python Information -]
admin(4153): sys.version =   2.3.4 (#1, Mar  3 2005, 21:56:32)
[GCC 3.3.5  (Gentoo Linux 3.3.5-r1, ssp-3.3.2-3, pie-8.7.7.1)]
admin(4153): sys.executable  =   /usr/bin/python
admin(4153): sys.prefix  =   /usr
admin(4153): sys.exec_prefix =   /usr
admin(4153): sys.path=   /usr
admin(4153): sys.platform=   linux2
admin(4153): [- Environment Variables -]
admin(4153):SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache
admin(4153):SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/listinfo
admin(4153):SERVER_SIGNATURE: addressApache Server at 
lists.citservice.de Port 80/address
admin(4153):
admin(4153):REQUEST_METHOD: GET
admin(4153):HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE: 300
admin(4153):SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1
admin(4153):QUERY_STRING:
admin(4153):HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
admin(4153):HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; 
en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050301 Firefox/1.0.1
admin(4153):HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive
admin(4153):SERVER_NAME: lists.citservice.de
admin(4153):REMOTE_ADDR: 213.54.138.86
admin(4153):SERVER_PORT: 80
admin(4153):SERVER_ADDR: 80.190.241.119
admin(4153):DOCUMENT_ROOT: /home/mailman
admin(4153):PYTHONPATH: /home/mailman
admin(4153):SCRIPT_FILENAME: /home/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo
admin(4153):SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin(4153):HTTP_HOST: lists.citservice.de
admin(4153):HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL: max-age=0
admin(4153):REQUEST_URI: /mailman/listinfo
admin(4153):HTTP_ACCEPT: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
admin(4153):GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
admin(4153):REMOTE_PORT: 55268
admin(4153):HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: de-de,en-us;q=0.7,en;q=0.3
admin(4153):HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate

Is there a working and maybe something tested patch for version 2.1.5 
already? Or another fine solution to make real virtual hosting?

Thank you all in advance!
Christian Anton
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Re: [Mailman-Users] true virtual hosting with mailman-2.1.5

2005-03-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christian Anton wrote:

I'm wanting to use mailman on a postfix-powered machine with virtual 
domains. As i found out that out-of-the-box mailman does not support 
this fine (one only namespace for mailing list names etc) i found this 
patch in the FAQ of mailman:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=943827group_id=103atid=300103

The problem i have with it is that it seems to be for an older version 
of mailman. It says something of version 2.1.1. I'm using 2.1.5 so it 
will not apply. I tried to patch the file manually reading the patch and 
making the changes in the source file, everything installes fine but 
when i try to access mailman's listinfo cgi with a browser, i get this:

Mar 14 17:45:11 2005 admin(4153): 

admin(4153): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.5 -]
admin(4153): [- Traceback --]
admin(4153): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(4153):   File /home/mailman/scripts/driver, line 94, in run_main
admin(4153): pkg = __import__('Mailman.Cgi', globals(), locals(), 
[scriptname])
admin(4153):   File /home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py, line 27, in ?
admin(4153): from Mailman import MailList
admin(4153): IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer 
indentation level (MailList.py, line 449)
snip

Indentation is critical in Python. You have not properly matched
indentation between the patch and the base in MailList.py. It is
safest to indent with spaces only. Mixing spaces and tabs in one file
causes problems.

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