Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman current version?
On Nov 19, 2009, at 12:58, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: or more radically, as a separate project that talks to the API). Ooo, that sound like a great idea. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman current version?
On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:54 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: And the fact that a couple of days a week I usually spend the entire day away from computers (unless you count the cyclometer on my bicycle). :) I only have a little more to add: * I just got back from 2 weeks of travel, so I've blown my chances at inbox-zero for the year. ;) * I only have time to skim mailman-users. * I'm not going to hold up Mailman 3 final release for lack of u/i. If 3.0 is a stable distribution engine, with a robust API and a data migration strategy, it will be good enough to release. That doesn't mean it will be appropriate for all sites to upgrade, but it will useful to a lot of people anyway. So it's likely you won't see an updated Mailman u/i until 3.1 (or more radically, as a separate project that talks to the API). -Barry PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman current version?
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Christopher Adams wrote: I have been using Mailman 2.1.12 for awhile now and am migrating to a different server. When I looked on the website, I found two sources for the Mailman package, Launchpad and Gnu. It says that Gnu tends to lag behind in versions available. In Launchpad, it says the current version is 3.0.0a3 and Gnu has 2.1.12. I am pretty sure that the latter is the most current stable version and I have not seen any posts about a new version, so? I'm surprised none of the developers here have answered (unless I somehow missed it) but I assume the a in that 3.0.0a3 means alpha. In other words, a very preliminary first look version and not at all suitable for any sort of production work. I do recall a mention of a first alpha version of Mailman 3 but unless you're into heavy testing on a separate system, stay away from it for now. IMHO, the mailman team is very good about version numbering and officially calling something a production version when it's ready. Contrast that to the far too many projects that don't understand versioning and will put out a beta and then if it works, just say use the beta, it's the current latest working version. With Mailman, wait for an official production release as it will come when everything is ready. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman current version?
Larry Stone writes: I'm surprised none of the developers here have answered (unless I somehow missed it) I think it's probably just time differentials, and the fact that the only developer currently active on mailman-users is Mark. 2.1.12 is the latest release in the 2.x series. It was intended to be superseded by the 2.2 branch, but it looks like it may continue in maintenance mode for a couple more releases. I would expect that future changes to 2.1.x will be more of the damn the spammers, but we have to do something about this new abuse they've cooked up rather than bright shiny things or even mile-deep roach decides to look at the sun -- there probably are not many implementation bugs left, although there are a raft of design problems. The 2.2 branch has been cancelled in favor of 2.2-oriented developers helping with 3.0. There just wasn't enough manpower being applied to address the design issues, and 3.0 is a much nicer platform for developing a better UIs etc. 3.0 is currently in active development. To call it alpha is a misnomer; the implementation is currently very incomplete. It's actually usable as a mailing list distribution agent, but most of the UI is as yet missing (at last report). I expect early UI development will go pretty fast as a lot of basic stuff can be ported from 2.x, but then things may slow down again as thorny issues like backscatter and radical UI improvement are addressed. Discussion of Mailman 3 occurs on the mailman-developers list and on the Mailman wiki. If you're just looking for the latest production version of Mailman, that's 2.1.12. HTH, and of course Barry and Mark are authoritative sources here. Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman current version?
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Larry Stone writes: I'm surprised none of the developers here have answered (unless I somehow missed it) I think it's probably just time differentials, and the fact that the only developer currently active on mailman-users is Mark. And the fact that a couple of days a week I usually spend the entire day away from computers (unless you count the cyclometer on my bicycle). :) HTH, and of course Barry and Mark are authoritative sources here. All of what Steve and Larry said in this thread is correct. In addition, there will be a 2.1.13 release before the end of the year. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
