Re: [Mailman-Users] Small list for club
On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: On 09/11/09 10:45, Barry Warsaw wrote: Even though I have a static address, my ISP won't give me a reverse DNS, so it can be a problem with any residential broadband service. Still it's very rare that I get such rejections these days (RedHat was one culprit, but they whitelisted me). Even if they are rare, you will still have problems like that. You could run your own mail server at your house and use your ISP's mail server as a smart host and get past the rejections because of your dynamic IP. Yep. I've considered setting up smarthost relaying just for the couple of domains that I have problems with. I'm fairly sure Postfix can do this. But honestly, it's been such a minimal problem that so far it hasn't been worth spending the time on. It now sounds like you already have a mail server at your house (and likely versed in some of the problems that can pose) and all you are considering adding is Mailman. If this is the case, I'd suggest giving Mailman a try. Conversely if you are talking about setting up a new mail server just to run Mailman, I'd suggest looking in to a hosted service. (I think setting up a new mail server just for a mailing list is a bit of a steep curve.) I will definitely give Mailman a try! :) -Barry PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Small list for club
-Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:37 AM To: Mike Mackenna; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Small list for club Mike Mackenna wrote: I am a member of a cigar club that would like to make use of a mailing list. I would like to use mailman for the list. I hear running your own email server can be a headache because of all of the security concerns. Is there a free service available for small clubs to make use of the mailman mailing list? There are free or very low cost services for your situation. See http://wiki.list.org/x/Hg. If not can I run a mailman mailing list from my home using a broadband connection, dyndns, and a linux box, or should I be looking into hosting options? Dynamic DNS is a problem for a server sending email. Many ISPs will do a reverse lookup on the sending IP and if it doesn't point back to the sending domain, will reject the mail. Fom the above wiki page, http://www.emwd.com/mailman.html offer list hosting starting at $4.00 per month, and they are active on this mailman-users list which is further evidence that they are offering real Mailman service. There may be others that would do as well for you. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan Thank you, I will look into those options. Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Small list for club
Mike Mackenna wrote: I am a member of a cigar club that would like to make use of a mailing list. I would like to use mailman for the list. I hear running your own email server can be a headache because of all of the security concerns. Is there a free service available for small clubs to make use of the mailman mailing list? There are free or very low cost services for your situation. See http://wiki.list.org/x/Hg. If not can I run a mailman mailing list from my home using a broadband connection, dyndns, and a linux box, or should I be looking into hosting options? Dynamic DNS is a problem for a server sending email. Many ISPs will do a reverse lookup on the sending IP and if it doesn't point back to the sending domain, will reject the mail. Fom the above wiki page, http://www.emwd.com/mailman.html offer list hosting starting at $4.00 per month, and they are active on this mailman-users list which is further evidence that they are offering real Mailman service. There may be others that would do as well for you. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Small list for club
On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Dynamic DNS is a problem for a server sending email. Many ISPs will do a reverse lookup on the sending IP and if it doesn't point back to the sending domain, will reject the mail. Even though I have a static address, my ISP won't give me a reverse DNS, so it can be a problem with any residential broadband service. Still it's very rare that I get such rejections these days (RedHat was one culprit, but they whitelisted me). -Barry PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Small list for club
On 09/11/09 10:45, Barry Warsaw wrote: Even though I have a static address, my ISP won't give me a reverse DNS, so it can be a problem with any residential broadband service. Still it's very rare that I get such rejections these days (RedHat was one culprit, but they whitelisted me). Even if they are rare, you will still have problems like that. You could run your own mail server at your house and use your ISP's mail server as a smart host and get past the rejections because of your dynamic IP. It now sounds like you already have a mail server at your house (and likely versed in some of the problems that can pose) and all you are considering adding is Mailman. If this is the case, I'd suggest giving Mailman a try. Conversely if you are talking about setting up a new mail server just to run Mailman, I'd suggest looking in to a hosted service. (I think setting up a new mail server just for a mailing list is a bit of a steep curve.) Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Small list for club
I am a member of a cigar club that would like to make use of a mailing list. I would like to use mailman for the list. I hear running your own email server can be a headache because of all of the security concerns. Is there a free service available for small clubs to make use of the mailman mailing list? If not can I run a mailman mailing list from my home using a broadband connection, dyndns, and a linux box, or should I be looking into hosting options? If hosting is the way to go can someone point out a mailman list provider that may fit my needs? Thanks, Mike -- Hi Mike: I recommend you check out our mailman service at http://www.emwd.com/mailman.html. We are not free but we are not expensive either. Small clubs such as yours makes up a good percentage of our mailman clients. Have a great weekend. :^) Regards, Brian Carpenter EMWD.com http://blog.emwd.com/ Curious comments from a web hosting techie -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9