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2003-11-12 Thread Alessandra La Spina

I'm trying to create a moderated list (with a lot of non-moderated users).
Is there a way to unset the moderation flag for a user using the command 
line options
(e.g. not using the web interface) - so that I can use a script to unset
the flag individually for a list of users?

Thank you for your help.

Alessandra La Spina


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[Mailman-Users] MySQL MemberAdaptor.

2003-11-12 Thread List
All, 

http://kyrian.ore.org/MailmanMysql/

I accept absolutely no responsibility for the above ruining your
marriage, hairdo, life, dogs, cats, children, computer systems,
reputations, sanity, or indeed destroying the entire known universe.

However, it should allow you to use MySQL with Mailman 2.1+ for your
mailing list members.

The bounce detection and delivery status stuff is less than perfect, and
there could well be other problems.

Enjoy.

K.

PS. Feel free to report bugs in the code/suggest enhancements/offer help
to make it better via email (to me directly please), but I'm very
busy, so please don't expect them to get solved/incorporated
particularly quickly, and certainly don't even bother getting cranky
with me if it doesn't work because I'll probably just ignore you. Unless
you want to pay me for my time, of course ;-)

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[Mailman-Users] Re: MySQL MemberAdaptor.

2003-11-12 Thread List
Oh, and it's up on the Mailman Sourceforge site, too

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=839386&group_id=103&atid=300103

K.

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[Mailman-Users] Memory problems and stuck list

2003-11-12 Thread Mark T.B. Carroll
I am using mailman 2.1.3 with GNU licb6 2.3.2 and Python 2.3.2.

We have a couple of low-traffic lists with few subscribers. Things used to
work fine until recently. (I'm not sure what changed, unfortunately.) We
were using mailman version 2.0.11, but upgrading it to see if that made
the problem go away hasn't improved things.

First, incoming mail is now languishing in /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/in/.
I've tried to get it moved with things like "qrunner -v -o -r All" but to
no avail. (Maybe that's no surprise; I don't quite know what I'm doing.
(-:) If I could just get mail periodically shifted by hand, that'd be a
good start. /var/log/mailman/qrunner says it did do a qrunner iteration
for each Runner.

When I start mailman with "mailmanctl -s start" then a number of Python
processes (qrunners) get fairly busy and are around 4Mb apiece. The
machine slows to a crawl and the kernel starts killing them due to out of
memory errors. "killall -9 python" is how to make the machine happy again.
It only has around 32Mb RAM plus a little more than that in swap, which
isn't a lot but should be plenty for running small mailing lists.

We use exim but that's been fine and happy. It's been recording the piping
of incoming mail into "/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post foo..." which is
presumably how things end up in qfiles/in/ in the first place. The posts
appear in /var/log/mailman/post. None of the other mailman logfiles show
anything interesting.

Last night I added 128Mb of swap space and tried restarting mailman. This
morning the machine seemed to be pretty much dead, but with no clues in
the logs as to what went wrong. The other (mostly idle) services on the
machine seem to be running much as they should, still, after a reboot;
AFAICT it's only mailman that's unhappy.

Does any of the above sound familiar? Is there other diagnostic stuff I
should do? Unfortunately I don't know any Python.

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[Mailman-Users] List admins unable to approve?

2003-11-12 Thread John Snowdon
Running a dozen or so lightly populated lists on the following setup

Mailman 2.1.2 (source package, upgrad from 2.0.8)
Apache 1.3.26
Solaris 8
sendmail 

Since the upgrade (following the upgrade readme in the mailman source),
list admins receive the authorisation request email for non-list members
to post, however, when they reply (correctly, I may add; Approved:
PASSWORD etc.) to the message in order to approve it, nothing happens...
the message is not released to the list.

Furthermore, these 'held' messages do not show up using the web admin
interface and it just gives the same "There are no pending requests"
response.

However, in /home/mailman/data I see entries similar to:

-rw-rw-r--   1 mailman  mailman  2461 Nov 12 10:08
heldmsg-medev-52.pck

(The contents of this matches up with a post that was held for list
admin approval this morning.. again nothing happened when the message
was replied to and it was not seen in the web interface)

Apart from that, everything else works fine, posting, subscription,
archive browsing etc.

Any ideas?

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[Mailman-Users] publically available .mbox files in pipermail archives

2003-11-12 Thread Bruno Postle
I've been made-aware that as well as indexing pipermail public html
archives, google indexes all the raw mbox files too:

 http://www.google.com/search?q=pipermail+mbox+X-Mailman-Version

These are also a resource for email-address harvesters, so I've
configured apache to redirect these requests to the private
archives:

RedirectMatch permanent ^/pipermail/(.+)\.mbox/(.+)\.mbox$ 
http://example.com/mailman/private/$1.mbox/$2.mbox

Can anyone see anything wrong with this approach?

..or should mailman be modified to allow only authenticated user
access to the mbox archives?

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[Mailman-Users] qrunner dieing?

2003-11-12 Thread Sean

Hi,

I'm runing mailman 2.0.6.  Posts to my lists are not going out. It seems
like qrunning is dieing.  The error logs have this in it:

Nov 12 13:48:03 2003 qrunner(65767): Traceback (most recent call last):
Nov 12 13:48:03 2003 qrunner(65767):   File "/usr/mailman/cron/qrunner",
line 282, in ?
Nov 12 13:48:03 2003 qrunner(65767):  kids = main(lock)
Nov 12 13:48:03 2003 qrunner(65767):   File "/usr/mailman/cron/qrunner",
line 252, in main
Nov 12 13:48:03 2003 qrunner(65767):  keepqueued =
dispose_message(mlist, msg, msgdata)
Nov 12 13:48:03 2003 qrunner(65767):   File "/usr/mailman/cron/qrunner",
line 157, in dispose_message
Nov 12 13:48:03 2003 qrunner(65767):  mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg)
Nov 12 13:48:03 2003 qrunner(65767):   File
"/usr/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 151, in
ParseMailCommands
Nov 12 13:48:03 2003 qrunner(65767):  if (subject and
Nov 12 13:48:03 2003 qrunner(65767): IndexError :  list index out of range
Nov 12 13:50:01 2003 (65779) Delivery exception: not enough arguments for
format string
Nov 12 13:50:01 2003 (65779) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in
do_pipeline
func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py", line 44, in process
footer = string.replace(mlist.msg_footer % d, '\r\n', '\n')
TypeError: not enough arguments for format string

Nov 12 13:50:02 2003 (65779) Delivery exception: not enough arguments for
format string
Nov 12 13:50:02 2003 (65779) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in
do_pipeline
func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py", line 44, in process
footer = string.replace(mlist.msg_footer % d, '\r\n', '\n')
TypeError: not enough arguments for format string

Nov 12 13:50:02 2003 (65779) Delivery exception: not enough arguments for
format string
Nov 12 13:50:02 2003 (65779) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in
do_pipeline
func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py", line 44,


Any ideas what is causing it?

Any assistance will be very much appreciated.

Sean


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Re: [Mailman-Users] publically available .mbox files in pipermail archives

2003-11-12 Thread Jon Carnes
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 11:21, Bruno Postle wrote:
> I've been made-aware that as well as indexing pipermail public html
> archives, google indexes all the raw mbox files too:
> 
>  http://www.google.com/search?q=pipermail+mbox+X-Mailman-Version
> 
> These are also a resource for email-address harvesters, so I've
> configured apache to redirect these requests to the private
> archives:
> 
> RedirectMatch permanent ^/pipermail/(.+)\.mbox/(.+)\.mbox$ 
> http://example.com/mailman/private/$1.mbox/$2.mbox
> 
> Can anyone see anything wrong with this approach?
> 
> ..or should mailman be modified to allow only authenticated user
> access to the mbox archives?

I like your way of doing it. That should work fine.

I run a script against my mbox file nightly (and the html pages) which
scans for specific email addresses and substitutes a specific
replacement for that email address - all this provided by users who
don't want their addresses showing up in the archives. 

It was a nice add-on feature and easy to do.  The names and
substitutions are stored in a simple database; the script is a simple
"for... done" that executes a sed statement for the substitutions. 
Since I run it nightly, it's pretty fast.  It would also be fairly easy
to add this to the Pipermail archiver.  On some of my lists I run
Pipermail, on others I run Mhonarc, so I haven't bothered to integrate
it.

Jon Carnes


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[Mailman-Users] "Explicit Reply-To: header" does not work for digest

2003-11-12 Thread Paul H Byerly
 I have a list that is selected posts from a much busier 
list.  Replies go to the main list via the "Explicit Reply-To: 
header".  This works fine for individual e-mails, but a reply to the digest 
goes to the sending list, ignoring the reply to set in the general options 
section.

 Just something to tweak in the next release.

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[Mailman-Users] Character Special Footer

2003-11-12 Thread Branly Abendano
Hello,

I have installed and configurated a Mailman server.
Everything is ok.

But I need to use special characters in the footer. For instance: "á",
"é","í"

But when I send messages appear text like "ó"

Is there a way to insert footers in Spanish.?

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[Mailman-Users] changing the bounce message

2003-11-12 Thread Rick Goyette
How do I change the default message that mailman uses when rejecting 
mail?  You know, the part that says "The moderator gave the following 
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[Mailman-Users] mailman issues... using seperate web/mail servers.

2003-11-12 Thread franki
Hello guys,

I am relatively new to mailman, but for the last year or so I have run 
several lists using it...

I recently split my web server and mail server up, (they were previously 
on the same machine,  now they are on the same internal network, but 
different machines.)

Mailman is the only thing I've not been able to sort out with this new 
setup..

I setup postfix on the new server and installed mailman. (2.1.2) with no 
probs.. I then set relayhost in that postfix to use the real mail server 
for any mail to go out...

Then on the old machine which is now just the mail server, but used to 
be both web and mail, I changed the aliases for mailman in 
/etc/postfix/aliases so that instead of piping commands to the mailman 
binary, they instead directed list posts to the web servers postfix (I 
used a fake internal domain "internal.com" for the web servers postfx 
mydestination and added it to the hosts file of both machines) The 
aliases are now in this form:

mailman-admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailman-bounces:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailman-confirm:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailman-join: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailman-leave:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailman-owner:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailman-request:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailman-subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailman-unsubscribe:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Then on the web server, I put the real mailman aliases that pipe to the 
mailman binary into its aliases file...

This seems something of a mess..  and I'm also having a problem that 
internal.com is resolved via dns to an external site  (who'd have 
thought :-) postfix seesm to ignore the hosts entries (and the 
/var/spool/postfix/etc/hosts) entries and is just using dns to resolve, 
(even though resolv.conf and hosts.conf are set to seach locally first)..

Anyway, after much scratching of my head, searching the net, reading 
mailman docs I am not really any closer to getting this working...

I am not a postfix guru (or any MTA for that matter.) so I am not even 
sure how I should be naming an internal mailserver that only has access 
to the external net via my real mail server.

Can you guys give me any pointers as to the best way I can achive this???

kindest regards

Franki



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[Mailman-Users] Problem with Swedish characters

2003-11-12 Thread Rickard Andersson
Hello everyone!

I have a problem with swedish characters in the subject line when sending mail to my
recently set up Mac OS X server (10.3) with mailman 2.1.2. Everything else works fine.
The thing that happens is that I get a space in front of the first swedish character 
and a space after the last one.
For example: "sm örgå sbord" should be "smörgåsbord". It only occurs in the subject 
line, not in the mail. If its more than
2 of those characters it will only effect the first and the last one!
I also just found out that it's only a problem when using Microsoft Entourage as a 
mail client.

Have any one heard of this problem?

Thanks

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[Mailman-Users] mailman

2003-11-12 Thread Seth Fernald Yahoo
Do you know if there is any way to use Mailman with my Yahoo hosted site?

Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] hacking question about options.html

2003-11-12 Thread Alex Szanca
I want to find out a persons email addy..without them knowing.  How do I do this?  I 
have this persons full name, full home address and home phone number.  Thank you for 
your help...
 
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[Mailman-Users] Subscribe/Unsubsribe

2003-11-12 Thread Loay Oweis
Hello,

I am an active user of mailman with happy results. I have over 4 active 
lists working very nicely.

I am to add an additional site and there is a requirement to add a 
subscription box on the bottom of the site main page or an email link 
such as
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you make any recommendations ? I 
have already begun the process of pointing the list main page; however, 
for the average user that page is confusing as there are too many options.

Also, it would be nice to have the same functionality for the unsubsription.

I have looked online and I have seen many asking similar questions to 
the possible surprise of those involved with Mailman. I believe the 
disconnect is simply that the list info page has too much.

Any recommendations or an example of someone actually doing this ?

Best Regards,
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[Mailman-Users] how to remove a mailing list

2003-11-12 Thread jenny fan
Hi Guys,

I have 3 mailing lists. Now I want to remove one of
them. Could you give me detail instruction how to
acchieve that?

thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] AOL Issues

2003-11-12 Thread Naor
Hi,

 

I saw your post on the AOL bounce back issue, and I was wandering if you
got any good answers, as I'm having the same problem.

 

 

10X

 

Naor

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[Mailman-Users] List admins not able to approve?

2003-11-12 Thread John Snowdon
Running a dozen or so lightly populated lists on the following setup

Mailman 2.1.2 (source package, upgrad from 2.0.8)
Apache 1.3.26
Solaris 8
sendmail 

Since the upgrade (following the upgrade readme in the mailman source),
list admins receive the authorisation request email for non-list members
to post, however, when they reply (correctly, I may add; Approved:
PASSWORD etc.) to the message in order to approve it, nothing happens...
the message is not released to the list.

Furthermore, these 'held' messages do not show up using the web admin
interface and it just gives the same "There are no pending requests"
response.

However, in /home/mailman/data I see entries similar to:

-rw-rw-r--   1 mailman  mailman  2461 Nov 12 10:08
heldmsg-medev-52.pck

(The contents of this matches up with a post that was held for list
admin approval this morning.. again nothing happened when the message
was replied to and it was not seen in the web interface)

Apart from that, everything else works fine, posting, subscription,
archive browsing etc.

Any ideas?

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 School of Medical Education Development
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[Mailman-Users] hosting options

2003-11-12 Thread jacks
Hi. Great program. I have some small applications (~200 of the same users on a list 
serv) & the occasional "mass mailing" (also to a few hundred at a time to different 
lists) that I'd like to use this for.

Ideally we'd like to just use a version already set up & hosted elsewhere. I don't 
think with our current skills in hous that we should be hosting a mail server 
ourselves.

Can you suggest any nice (& inexpensive) hosts that use mailman that can make it 
available to us? Any suggested hosts are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

- Jack

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[Mailman-Users] IP Validation

2003-11-12 Thread Anne Campbell
We're running Mailman on an Unix box using Postfix.  How can we offer IP
Validation to a specific list on our server?

Anne Campbell
Manager, Information Technology

As of December 2, 2003 Swets Blackwell will change its name to: Swets
Information Services.
Please note that my email address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Swets Blackwell
160 Ninth Avenue
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Direct: (856) 312-2150
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[Mailman-Users] customize

2003-11-12 Thread Greg Rodenhiser
I am trying to change the look and feel of all the pages (including main
page listing lists, admin page, etc).  Where are they stored?  (I've
found all the templates but want to change look and feel of ALL pages). 
I would like to at least add a header to the top of each page.  Where
would I set this up.  Thanks in advance
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Re: [Mailman-Users] customize

2003-11-12 Thread Jon Carnes
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 11:03, Greg Rodenhiser wrote:
> I am trying to change the look and feel of all the pages (including main
> page listing lists, admin page, etc).  Where are they stored?  (I've
> found all the templates but want to change look and feel of ALL pages). 
> I would like to at least add a header to the top of each page.  Where
> would I set this up.  Thanks in advance

You'll need to edit the source for some of those pages. It's not as hard
as you might think, and there is lots of documentation in the Archives
(perhaps too much!)

Good Luck - Jon Carnes


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[Mailman-Users] problems with attachments/MIME in digests and archives

2003-11-12 Thread debianlists
I'm running mailman-2.1.2 on Debian woody with postfix 2.0.14.

everything is working fine, except when a user posts a message containing an 
attached word document, the file-extension is changed to .bin or .exe.

 e.g.:

---*snip*---
Dateiname   : Angebot.doc
Dateityp: application/msword
Dateigröße  : 179712 bytes
Beschreibung: nicht verfügbar
URL : https://xyz.at/pipermail/autofahren/attachments/20031113/
e261f13f/Angebot-0002.bin
---*snip*---

any ideas?

Thanks in advance

robert


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Re: [Mailman-Users] IP Validation

2003-11-12 Thread Jon Carnes

On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 15:22, Anne Campbell wrote:
> We're running Mailman on an Unix box using Postfix.  How can we offer IP
> Validation to a specific list on our server?
> 
> Anne Campbell
> Manager, Information Technology
> 
> As of December 2, 2003 Swets Blackwell will change its name to: Swets
> Information Services.
> Please note that my email address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Swets Blackwell
> 160 Ninth Avenue
> Runnemede, NJ  08078
> 
> Direct: (856) 312-2150
> Fax:(856) 312-2013
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
What IP are you looking to validate?  The senders?  Their MTA?
Is this for Anti-spam - or security?

Mailman doesn't have great header filters (the ip addresses of the MTA's
that touched the email will be in the header), but you can front-end
your lists with Procmail or a specialized Milter that examines the ip
addresses and tests them.

I've played with some surprisingly good filters in OpenBSD (though I
can't remember the names), and some of those did verification based on
the IP Addresses of the MTA's.  They were also configurable enough to
only kick in when the To: field was for specific lists.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Read indication on Archive

2003-11-12 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:16 AM -0600 2003/11/11, McKeever Chris wrote:

 If anyone has any suggestions as to a good approach to this, it would
 be very appreciated
	Use a shared IMAP mailbox instead.  If the people in question 
don't have proper IMAP clients, put a webmail front-end on the IMAP 
server (TWIG, SquirrelMail, etc...).

	A mailing list is not a good solution for this kind of problem.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrapping long lines in Mailman

2003-11-12 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:46 AM -0800 2003/11/11, Will Froning wrote:

 Basically yes.  If I have a CIO that's too ST*P*D to use carriage
 returns, do you think he even knows/cares what PGP is?  This wouldn't
 have to be a site-wide change, just for certain lists.  And that's why I
 like the fmt option.  It's done through aliases, so I can selectively
 turn it on/off.
	If you're going to use a command-line tool, take the time to 
learn "par".  It reformats much more intelligently, although it has a 
higher learning curve.  You would need to install it as additional 
software under either FreeBSD or Solaris, but at least for FreeBSD 
there should be a port definition for it.

	I doubt that you will regret the time you take to learn "par" over "fmt".

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Swedish characters

2003-11-12 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:27 PM +0100 2003/11/12, Rickard Andersson wrote:

 For example: "sm örgå sbord" should be "smörgåsbord". It only occurs
 in the subject line, not in the mail.
	Sounds like your MUA is not properly formatting the subject line 
of the message in accordance to the MIME standards, specifically with 
regards to the character set used within the subject line.  This is 
not something that mailman or the MTA can fix -- you need to get this 
fixed in the client.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman still fails after upgrading to version: 2.2a0

2003-11-12 Thread Fuzzy

FreeBSD 4.7-release
Mailman 2.2a0 (from CVS)
Python 2.2.1
Sendmail 8.12.6
Apache 1.3.23

Would updating Python help?

A few of the lists now can be listed with list_members,
list_lists still returns this error...

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/disabled", line 219, in ?
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/disabled", line 149, in main
mlist = MailList.MailList(listname)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 126, in __init__
self.Lock()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 163, in Lock
self.Load()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 590, in Load
dict, e = self.__load(file)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 563, in __load
dict = loadfunc(fp)
cPickle.UnpicklingError: member is not safe for unpickling

Is there anyway to repair or regenerate the .pck files
so normal service will work again?

thanks

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