[Mailman-Users] Email Command Confirmations

2006-12-05 Thread deepali
Dear List,

I recently went to the archives to see if there was a way to turn off  
the email command confirmations, and I came across the email thread  
below.

I looked at the patch, was able to change the code, but I am still  
getting email command confirmations.  I am guessing that it is  
because I am not doing something right, since I am new to using  
Mailman and know very little about Python.  So, I have a few questions.

1 - Does this patch work on Mailman 2.1.5?  (This is the version that  
comes with Mac OS Tiger Server.)  If not, does anyone have  
instructions on how to upgrade on OS X Server?  Does 2.1.9 still need  
this patch?

2 - In the patch, it says to set RESPOND_TO_SUCCESSFUL_CONFIRM =  
Yes.  But in the code, it looks for (not  
mm_cfg.RESPOND_TO_SUCCESSFUL_CONFIRM).  If I don't want the  
confirmations, shouldn't I set RESPOND_TO_SUCCESSFUL_CONFIRM = No?

3 - Do I have to compile the code after I change it?  Do I have to  
recreate the list to make the changes work?

My client is waiting on this fix before they go live with a new web  
application, so any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Deepali



Mark Sapiro wrote:

 >Ben Swihart wrote:
 >>
 >>When users subscribe, I like sending them a "welcome" e-mail with
 >>introductions,
 >>instructions, etc.  However, if you send an e-mail to [EMAIL  
PROTECTED],
 >>we are getting this back:
 >>
 >>"The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is  
your
 >>original message.
 >>
 >>- Results:
 >>Subscription request succeeded.
 >>
 >>- Done."
 >>
 >>Is there a way to disable command result notifications?
 >
 >
 >Attached is a patch against Mailman 2.1.6 to do this. The line numbers
 >will need adjusting for other releases.


BTW, the command results should not be sent if a welcome will be sent
(send_welcome_msg on General Options is Yes) even without the patch.

-- 
Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Email Command Confirmations

2006-12-07 Thread deepali
I figured out how to upgrade Mailman from 2.1.5 to 2.1.6 on Mac OS X  
Server 10.4.8.

I followed the instructions for the patch.  It does not work.  Has  
anyone had better success with it and can anyone point me in the  
right direction?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

- Deepali



On Dec 5, 2006, at 2:09 PM, deepali wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> I recently went to the archives to see if there was a way to turn  
> off the email command confirmations, and I came across the email  
> thread below.
>
> I looked at the patch, was able to change the code, but I am still  
> getting email command confirmations.  I am guessing that it is  
> because I am not doing something right, since I am new to using  
> Mailman and know very little about Python.  So, I have a few  
> questions.
>
> 1 - Does this patch work on Mailman 2.1.5?  (This is the version  
> that comes with Mac OS Tiger Server.)  If not, does anyone have  
> instructions on how to upgrade on OS X Server?  Does 2.1.9 still  
> need this patch?
>
> 2 - In the patch, it says to set RESPOND_TO_SUCCESSFUL_CONFIRM =  
> Yes.  But in the code, it looks for (not  
> mm_cfg.RESPOND_TO_SUCCESSFUL_CONFIRM).  If I don't want the  
> confirmations, shouldn't I set RESPOND_TO_SUCCESSFUL_CONFIRM = No?
>
> 3 - Do I have to compile the code after I change it?  Do I have to  
> recreate the list to make the changes work?
>
> My client is waiting on this fix before they go live with a new web  
> application, so any advice would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Deepali
>
>
>
> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> >Ben Swihart wrote:
> >>
> >>When users subscribe, I like sending them a "welcome" e-mail with
> >>introductions,
> >>instructions, etc.  However, if you send an e-mail to [EMAIL  
> PROTECTED],
> >>we are getting this back:
> >>
> >>"The results of your email command are provided below. Attached  
> is your
> >>original message.
> >>
> >>- Results:
> >>Subscription request succeeded.
> >>
> >>- Done."
> >>
> >>Is there a way to disable command result notifications?
> >
> >
> >Attached is a patch against Mailman 2.1.6 to do this. The line  
> numbers
> >will need adjusting for other releases.
>
>
> BTW, the command results should not be sent if a welcome will be sent
> (send_welcome_msg on General Options is Yes) even without the patch.
>
> -- 
> Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
>
>
>

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Turning off unsubscription confirmation

2006-12-11 Thread deepali
This explains why your patch didn't work for me!  I was trying to  
turn off the "your email command was successful" emails that get sent  
back when the user subscribes to a listserve.  From what you've said  
below, the patch addresses some other issue.

Thanks for your time,
- Deepali


On Dec 11, 2006, at 6:12 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> Ben Swihart wrote:
>>
>> My problem is resolved, as far as this particular use of mailman.
>> However, if you set mailman to show the None option and select it,  
>> that
>> appears to cause the e-mail command results bug.
>
>
> Aaahh - the light dawns. I didn't realize the 'command results' email
> was in response to the 'subscribe' email. I thought it was in response
> to a 'confirm' email.
>
> So, yes, if you have ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes in mm_cfg.py and have
> the list's subscribe_policy = None, you will get both a welcome
> message and a 'results of your email commands' message in response to
> a successful 'subscribe' command. Both the base code which avoids
> sending a response to a successful 'confirm' if a welcome will be sent
> and the patch which I sent which avoids responding to all successful
> 'confirms' only address 'confirm' commands, not 'subscribe' commands.
>
> So yes, it may be a bug in that it is not necessary to send a  
> 'results'
> message if the subscribe requires no confirmation or approval and a
> welcome will be sent, but it is not a bug in the sense of code not
> working as intended, because it was never intended to recognize this
> case and not send the results.
>
> However, I'm still confused about unsubscription confirmation. The
> list's subscribe_policy shouldn't affect this. It is affected by
> unsubscribe_policy in that if unsubscribe requires moderator approval,
> no user confirmation is required, but otherwise, confirmation is
> required unless the users password was provided in the email
> unsubscribe command or the user logged in and unsubscribed from the
> options page.
>
> Perhaps it is a cPanel modification to allow unconfirmed unsubscribes
> when subscribe_policy is None.
>
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