Re: [MlMt] Änderung des Betreff der eingegangenen Nachrichten

2013-12-13 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 13 Dec 2013, at 7:52, Marc ARC wrote:

@Thomas: No, there is no way to change the subject or any other part of 
a received message. You can only alter tags (IMAP keywords). IMAP (or 
emails in general) are not really designed for allowing such changes. 
For example, for IMAP it would require re-uploading the entire message 
to the server (also if it has a 20MB attachment). If I ever implemented 
anything to support such changes then I would probably do it by placing 
the changes in some kind of meta-message, but this would not work well 
with other email clients.



Could a redirect with the addition of additional info be a solution.


When I implement redirection then I don't think I would allow changing 
the content. The standard does not even support a change of the subject 
line: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322#section-3.6.6


I could perhaps allow a `Resent-Subject` (and/ore `Resent-Note`) header 
given that I warn the user that most email clients are unlikely to 
display this value. (This would still not be very efficient with regard 
to re-uploading to the server, but at least it would be an explicit 
change of the message.)


@ Benny: we have a similar situation and this is why i requested the 
possibility to be able to redirect a mail, I know your vision on 
changing mail contents and understand the risks/issues, but then again 
if other mail clients allow it . . .


If my general measure of correctness was other mail clients...

I'll give it some more thought.

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Re: [MlMt] removing previously used address

2013-12-13 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 13 Dec 2013, at 7:56, Marc ARC wrote:


Is there a way to have the following behavior:

no automatic change


Change of what?

1 mailaccount		- 1 from address	(to be defined somewhere  not the 
same as this from the email account )


I don't think I understand the question?

The possible From addresses are controlled by the IMAP account settings. 
If you only specify 1 email address (and no address pattern) then that's 
the only candidate for the From header.


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Re: [MlMt] Default columns/column settings on sent folders

2013-12-13 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 13 Dec 2013, at 10:12, Robert Anders wrote:

I'm able to configure the columns in _inbox_ folders and subfolders 
using context click on column headers and select Use as Default 
Columns.
When i try the same on _sent_ folders all _inbox_ folders will inherit 
the new settings (bad) and _sent_ folders switch back to the 
O|F|To|Subject|Date Received layout i unable to change at all as 
soon as i switch folders (also bad).


Bug? Feature?


Let's call it a non-optimal feature :-) The “Use as Default Columns” 
applies to all folders except a few with explicit settings (such as Sent 
Messages).


I believe the submailboxes of Sent Messages inherit the settings of the 
parent mailbox. If you change the columns of “Sent Messages” and 
then select the submailboxes to do “Revert to Default Mailboxes” 
then it'll look wrong at first, but then try to change the selection of 
mailboxes and I believe it clears up. This last part is of course a bug.


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[MlMt] inaccurate message lists

2013-12-13 Thread Rob McBroom
I’ve had this happen a few times. I’ll delete one or more messages 
via MailMate, then read mail with another client (my phone, if it 
matters) and see that the messages are still there.


I would think MailMate just hasn’t gotten around to deleting them, but 
there could be hours or even days between the time I delete and the time 
I check mail on my phone. These messages never appear in MailMate again 
once it thinks they’re deleted, but they are still there. (I have 
access to the file system where the messages are actually stored. It’s 
not just the phone.)


I just had such a message. I restarted MailMate to see if it would 
reappear and it didn’t, but that might have caused it to finally 
remove the message because it’s no longer on the server.


Maybe there’s a delay between “mark for delete” and “purge” 
and I’m shutting down my machine in between those steps, so it never 
happens? Though it seems unlikely that my phone would show messages 
marked for deletion.


Related: Is there anything equivalent to Mail’s **Mailbox → 
Rebuild** menu item?


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[MlMt] keyboard command to Jump to 'to:' field?

2013-12-13 Thread TJ Luoma
When I create a reply, there are certain circumstances where I would
like to be able to jump right to the To: header (also the Subject:
line header).

I can create a Keyboard Maestro macro for this (by repeating
'shift-tab'), but it would change depending on which headers are shown
in the compose window.

I looked through the documentation and didn't see anything which
seemed to allow for this, but I thought I'd ask just in case I'd
missed it.

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[MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread Rob McClure

MM Newb here…
HTML markup is not my forte but I can't seem to get Markdown to do what 
I think it should.
I assume that bulleted list and numbered lists should look indented and 
such, but I'm not seeing that at all, in fact I don't see anything 
different in the rendered view than I do in the edit pane. Same issue 
using Brett Terpstra's [Markdown Service 
Tools](http://brettterpstra.com/projects/markdown-service-tools/).


For example, I thought
* this should be a bulleted list
* and at the same level
** this should be next level indent I thought

1. and this should be a numbered list
2. and so on
2.1 to indent a level

I tried
# hash sign
## but that is doing headings…

And here is Terpstra's markdown service attempt for bullets (I select 
then apply the service)

* bullet one
* two
* indent

And numbers
1. number 1
2. number 2
3. number 2.1

But I'm getting all sorts of weird things, or nothing. Where do I go to 
find out what to do?


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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread Gustavo Daniel Villarreal

On 13 Dec 2013, at 19:19, Rob McClure wrote:


\*\* this should be next level indent I thought


Its actually [space]* for one indent level, and [space][space]* for two 
indent levels (further indentation levels are not supported):


```
* First level
 * Second level
  * Third level
```

* First level
 * Second level
  * Third level
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread TJ Luoma
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Rob McClure shar...@gmail.com wrote:

 But I'm getting all sorts of weird things, or nothing. Where do I go to
find
 out what to do?

1. This is the first level
2. This is also the first level
 1. This is the first sub-2
2. This is the second sub-2
 1. This is deeper still
2. deep
3. very deep
3. back to the top level

Note that 1. will work but 1) won't

You can use - or + or * for bullets, but NOT # which is for Hx headers.

Here's the official syntax guide:

http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax#list

http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/ is the official version of all
things Markdown syntax.

But when it comes down to it, there are two apps I find indispensable for
writing Markdown:

1) MultiMarkdown Composer - http://multimarkdown.com/download/

2) Marked 2 - http://marked2app.com

The first is an editor with built-in preview which can either show you
instant format using strict Markdown _or_ in the very popular
MultiMarkdown variant. Really handy because it will immediately show you
how things will look when formatted.

The second is a preview tool which will work with almost any text editor
(plus things like Scrivener and MarsEdit). It's a separate app that you use
with apps that don't have their own previewer built in. _AND_ the developer
(Brett Terpstra) is also a recent MailMate conver--err user :-)

I like both of them. Both of have free trials available.

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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread Kee Hinckley

On 13 Dec 2013, at 20:45, TJ Luoma wrote:

But when it comes down to it, there are two apps I find indispensable 
for

writing Markdown:

1) MultiMarkdown Composer - http://multimarkdown.com/download/

2) Marked 2 - http://marked2app.com


Both excellent recommendations. I do most of my large document writing 
using Scrivener and Marked. And smaller stuff (e.g. all meeting notes) 
in NoteBooks (available on the Mac, iPhone, and iPad, and syncs between 
all of those automatically via Dropbox). NoteBooks doesn't currently use 
MultiMarkdown, but they are talking of switching. Aside from some 
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread Kee Hinckley

On 13 Dec 2013, at 20:24, Gustavo Daniel Villarreal wrote:


On 13 Dec 2013, at 19:19, Rob McClure wrote:


\*\* this should be next level indent I thought


Its actually [space]* for one indent level, and [space][space]* for 
two indent levels (further indentation levels are not supported):


The nice thing about standards...

The [official markdown 
docs](http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax#list) say that 
indentation is 4 spaces or one tab. Of course they don't specifically 
stay that about _lists_, but in general reference to indentation for 
things.


E.g.

* Level 1
 * Still level 1
  * Still level 1
   * Still level 1
* Now level 2
* Also level 2 (tab)

```
* Level 1
 * Still level 1
  * Still level 1
   * Still level 1
* Now level 2 (4 spaces)
* Also level 2 (tab)
```

It's possible that the processor that MailMate is using is loser with 
that spec, since it's trying to capture intent in email from people who 
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread Rob McClure

Thanks,
So are you both saying you are composing in a separate application then 
pasting the final content into MM when composing a message? Even a 
reply?

Or can I embed these into MM?

Rob McClure
sharkez at g

On 13 Dec 2013, at 18:56, Kee Hinckley wrote:


On 13 Dec 2013, at 20:45, TJ Luoma wrote:

But when it comes down to it, there are two apps I find indispensable 
for

writing Markdown:

1) MultiMarkdown Composer - http://multimarkdown.com/download/

2) Marked 2 - http://marked2app.com


Both excellent recommendations. I do most of my large document writing 
using Scrivener and Marked. And smaller stuff (e.g. all meeting notes) 
in NoteBooks (available on the Mac, iPhone, and iPad, and syncs 
between all of those automatically via Dropbox). NoteBooks doesn't 
currently use MultiMarkdown, but they are talking of switching. Aside 
from some handling of code blocks and definition lists, it's pretty 
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown list help please

2013-12-13 Thread TJ Luoma
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Rob McClure shar...@gmail.com wrote:

 So are you both saying you are composing in a separate application then
 pasting the final content into MM when composing a message? Even a reply?
 Or can I embed these into MM?


I was suggesting it as an option until you learn Markdown enough to be
comfortable with it.

Of course, being me, I couldn't resist the urge to make a Keyboard Maestro
macro to facilitate the process of using MultiMarkdown Composer(1) as an
external editor for MailMate:

https://github.com/tjluoma/km-mailmate-edit-in-external-editor

(1) You can change it to use any editor you like, that's just what it uses
by default.

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Re: [MlMt] bulk indent?

2013-12-13 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 13 Dec 2013, at 19:02, Jon Nall wrote:

I'll often cut and past a multi-line string from my terminal into 
MailMate. I'd like to 'bulk indent' this to have it show up as a 
Markdown code block. I currently haven't found a better way than 
manually adding spaces to each individual line of text.


I would like that too :-) I usually prefix/suffix the code block with 
`~~~`, but I would prefer indenting if it was easier. I might get around 
to implementing it, now that I have an actual user request ;-)


Is there a way to select text and indent it all? 
Indentation-Increase/Decrease ( Cmd-]  Cmd-[ ) are what I'm used to 
in Mail.app, but that doesn't exist in MailMate (and perusing the key 
binding document I didn't find what anything promising).


I had forgotten Apple Mail could do that, but then I tried it and found 
out why I couldn't remember. It appears to only work in non-plain-text 
mode...


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Re: [MlMt] keyboard command to Jump to 'to:' field?

2013-12-13 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 13 Dec 2013, at 22:07, TJ Luoma wrote:


When I create a reply, there are certain circumstances where I would
like to be able to jump right to the To: header (also the Subject:
line header).

[...]

I looked through the documentation and didn't see anything which
seemed to allow for this, but I thought I'd ask just in case I'd
missed it.


It's not there. I have a note about somehow allowing a shortcut to 
activate a header field in the composer. Such a shortcut should then 
also automatically display the header field if it's not shown by 
default.


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