[MlMt] Setting columns in basic view and search
Feature or bug? I want to show an attachment column in my view - I check it in the menu and then move it to the left of the From column. But it doesn't stick. Next time I open MM it reverts. How do I make it stick? Thanks -Annamarie Pluhar- Founder, Sharing Housing, Dummerston, VT I help people live with home-mates happily. Author of [Sharing Housing, A Guidebook for Finding and Keeping Good Housemates](http://www.amazon.com/Sharing-Housing-Guidebook-Finding-Housemates/dp/099101040X) Workshops and Presentations (802) 387-0487 | skype annamarie_p | G+ +AnnamariePluhar Blog www.sharinghousing.com Twitter @sharinghousing | Facebook http://www.facebook.com/SharingHousing___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Thread Arcs styling options
On 5 Feb 2014, at 15:16, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I’m just thinking out loud. I wouldn’t even be able to implement thread arcs in HTML myself. If anyone wants to play with this then I think I can create a bundle command which demonstrates how one can generate input similar to the above (or something simpler), generate some simple HTML, and finally, open the result in a browser. Slightly off topic: The above is something I had not considered for thread arcs, but I often think it would be really cool if scripts were created which visualized various statistics about groups of messages using, e.g., gnuplot or maybe a graphing tool for HTML. For example, a graph showing the number of emails replied per day, or a pie chart of top-posters on the MailMate mailing list :-) I’ll assist anyone with an interest in such visualizations (or even just simple tables). For both generating fancy custom thread-arcs and the off-topic stuff, I think [D3.js](http://d3js.org/) would do the trick. It can consume JSON and CSV. Check out some of the demos. -- Rob McBroom http://www.skurfer.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] New user asks: What is best feature?
On 6 Feb 2014, at 21:56, Zvi Biener wrote: The support. Benny answers everything quickly (on and off this list) and will sometimes even create things quickly. Between him and this list, almost all queries and needs are addressed. Well said. I couldn't agree more with this opinion. -- Nitin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] New user asks: What is best feature?
On 6 Feb 2014, at 16:26, Nitin wrote: On 6 Feb 2014, at 21:56, Zvi Biener wrote: The support. Benny answers everything quickly (on and off this list) and will sometimes even create things quickly. Between him and this list, almost all queries and needs are addressed. Well said. I couldn't agree more with this opinion. Yep, I have to agree here too. Having said that, and having come from Mail.app, here are just a few of the many things I love about MailMate and those you should look into a little deeper: - Markdown. Purists will vow that we should send our emails in plain text, but there are times when it just helps to have rich formatting and for that, I love the speed Markdown affords me; - Speed, I find MailMate to be leaps and bounds faster than Mail.app; - Power and flexibility - I can define a barrage of custom keyboard shortcuts that allow me to cull through my email very quickly. (A single keyboard shortcut can perform an array of mundane tasks); - Command bundles - granted that this isn't for everybody, but they're super useful and powerful. - Smart signatures; - Delayed send; - Tagging. There is so much more, believe me, but these are just a few things I enjoy and would immediately miss were I to move to another email client now. Cheers, Pedro Lobo signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Is there a way to not indent forwarded messages?
All, When I forward a message, the text of the original message is indented (i.e. Dear Mom, becomes Dear Mom,). Is there a way to disable this behaviour? I ask because I send quite a few e-mails to my Evernote email address and my Omnifocus email address, and I would prefer these not be indented. This function is similar to the redirect found in other mail tools, which I believe Benny has said will not be implemented. If there is not an easy way to accomplish what I am requesting, is there any other way to make it occur? Thanks, Andy Cerier ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Setting columns in basic view and search
On 6 Feb 2014, at 14:35, Annamarie wrote: Feature or bug? Feature. And maybe a bug. I want to show an attachment column in my view - I check it in the menu and then move it to the left of the From column. But it doesn't stick. Next time I open MM it reverts. How do I make it stick? Hmm, it should stick. Try using “Use as Default Columns” in the same menu as you enabled Attachments. If you have changed columns in other mailboxes then you can use “Revert to Default Columns” to make them use the default set. (This doesn't work for mailboxes related to sent or junk messages which must be configured explicitly. This could be seen as kind of a bug.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Is there a way to not indent forwarded messages?
On 6 Feb 2014, at 15:10, Andrew Cerier wrote: This function is similar to the redirect found in other mail tools, which I believe Benny has said will not be implemented. If there is not an easy way to accomplish what I am requesting, is there any other way to make it occur? Edit as New message might do the trick, although it loses the old headers.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Is there a way to not indent forwarded messages?
On 6 Feb 2014, at 21:10, Andrew Cerier wrote: When I forward a message, the text of the original message is indented (i.e. Dear Mom, becomes Dear Mom,). Is there a way to disable this behaviour? With forwarding, only by using “Message ▸ Forward as Attachment”. Well, low level it might be possible, but let's not go there now. This function is similar to the redirect found in other mail tools, which I believe Benny has said will not be implemented. No, I think I've only said it wasn't implemented yet (and maybe that it was non-trivial to implement). It's actually available in the current test version of MailMate: Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane. You can read about the feature [here](http://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/206-redirect-message#ticket-206-14). Note that “Redirect” in MailMate does not allow you to change anything in the message (because that would be wrong). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Setting columns in basic view and search
Nice! Just the answer I needed! On 6 Feb 2014, at 15:18, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 6 Feb 2014, at 14:35, Annamarie wrote: Feature or bug? Feature. And maybe a bug. I want to show an attachment column in my view - I check it in the menu and then move it to the left of the From column. But it doesn't stick. Next time I open MM it reverts. How do I make it stick? Hmm, it should stick. Try using “Use as Default Columns” in the same menu as you enabled Attachments. If you have changed columns in other mailboxes then you can use “Revert to Default Columns” to make them use the default set. (This doesn't work for mailboxes related to sent or junk messages which must be configured explicitly. This could be seen as kind of a bug.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] New user asks: What is best feature?
On 6 Feb 2014, at 9:39, 1611mac wrote: Background: I have used used Apple Mail (currently handling 6 imap accounts) pretty much for it's whole existence. I used it when it was still [NeXTMail](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXTMail). What do I win? ;-) Situation: I'm evaluating MailMate before I purchase. Besides using the application, I recommend just reading [the manual](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/) “cover to cover”. It’s not that long, and you’ll get a sense of what’s possible. Best feature for me in Mail is Rules which I use to move mail into sub-folders. This is normally based on sender. It’s not an option for everyone, but I prefer to do this sort of thing on the server (so things are arranged when I read on a phone where organization matters even more). So I can’t comment on the “rules” abilities of one over the other. I frequently have to search for emails based upon words found within the body. I’d say MailMate wins pretty easily here. You can set up the default search just the way you want, and even configure the search interface to appear with a single key. 1,) If you used Apple Mail in the past, what is the best feature in MailMate that shines above Apple Mail? Hard to say, but I’ll go with the thing that really got my attention at first: Being able to write in plain text (Markdown), but have the recipient see something more pleasant[^1] while *also* preserving the original text as I wrote it for those who prefer the text alternative. The one thing I miss from Mail is the ability to read an entire thread in one view. All the messages would be there, clearly separated. A lot of the garbage in top-posted messages would be obscured, and messages would be marked as read automatically in a somewhat predictable way. 2.) What do you consider the best overall feature of MailMate? As a new user of MailMate, what should I be sure not to miss? Two questions with different answers. :-) Some smaller not-to-miss things: * Selecting folders with ⌘T and moving a message to a folder with ⌥⌘T * Look at the smart folders under Examples. What you can do is pretty impressive. The Mailing Lists one in particular. I’ll admit I don’t use it though, since it doesn’t help me when reading mail on a phone. * It’ll try to prevent you from talking about an attachment and not sending it. (In fact, I’ll bet it warns me when I send this.) I don’t send many attachments, but I think this is a great idea. [^1]: With the exception of quoted text, which looks terrible by default. It looks fine to *me*, because MailMate lets you apply a style sheet on the client side. We will hopefully have a way to style outgoing messages one day. -- Rob McBroom http://www.skurfer.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] New user asks: What is best feature?
Though we tested NeXT machines for a while I can honestly say I never used the mail software. (I have a publishing background.) The first Apple I owned was an APPLE /// (3) their first business machine :) 1611mac - gregS On Feb 6, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Rob McBroom mailingli...@skurfer.com wrote: On 6 Feb 2014, at 9:39, 1611mac wrote: Background: I have used used Apple Mail (currently handling 6 imap accounts) pretty much for it's whole existence. I used it when it was still NeXTMail. What do I win? ;-) Situation: I'm evaluating MailMate before I purchase. Besides using the application, I recommend just reading the manual “cover to cover”. It’s not that long, and you’ll get a sense of what’s possible. Best feature for me in Mail is Rules which I use to move mail into sub-folders. This is normally based on sender. It’s not an option for everyone, but I prefer to do this sort of thing on the server (so things are arranged when I read on a phone where organization matters even more). So I can’t comment on the “rules” abilities of one over the other. I frequently have to search for emails based upon words found within the body. I’d say MailMate wins pretty easily here. You can set up the default search just the way you want, and even configure the search interface to appear with a single key. 1,) If you used Apple Mail in the past, what is the best feature in MailMate that shines above Apple Mail? Hard to say, but I’ll go with the thing that really got my attention at first: Being able to write in plain text (Markdown), but have the recipient see something more pleasant1 while also preserving the original text as I wrote it for those who prefer the text alternative. The one thing I miss from Mail is the ability to read an entire thread in one view. All the messages would be there, clearly separated. A lot of the garbage in top-posted messages would be obscured, and messages would be marked as read automatically in a somewhat predictable way. 2.) What do you consider the best overall feature of MailMate? As a new user of MailMate, what should I be sure not to miss? Two questions with different answers. :-) Some smaller not-to-miss things: Selecting folders with ⌘T and moving a message to a folder with ⌥⌘T Look at the smart folders under Examples. What you can do is pretty impressive. The Mailing Lists one in particular. I’ll admit I don’t use it though, since it doesn’t help me when reading mail on a phone. It’ll try to prevent you from talking about an attachment and not sending it. (In fact, I’ll bet it warns me when I send this.) I don’t send many attachments, but I think this is a great idea. -- Rob McBroom http://www.skurfer.com/ With the exception of quoted text, which looks terrible by default. It looks fine to me, because MailMate lets you apply a style sheet on the client side. We will hopefully have a way to style outgoing messages one day. ↩ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] New user asks: What is best feature?
To ALL who have replied to my request, thanks much. I've gotten some really nice tips and comments already. 1611mac - gregS On Feb 6, 2014, at 3:43 PM, David Levy entropyd...@mac.com wrote: On 6 Feb 2014, at 14:39, 1611mac wrote: 1,) If you used Apple Mail in the past, what is the best feature in MailMate that shines above Apple Mail? MailMate does not have distracting bling. It has a puritanical approach to getting work with email done. So there is a lot of functionality, but not a lot of business: no pretend folded pages, etc. When I first moved from Mail, the three things I liked most were: - oriented around plain text mail, not HTML - ability to file and move between folders using cmd-t and cmd-opt-t - fine-grained search 2.) What do you consider the best overall feature of MailMate? As a new user of MailMate, what should I be sure not to miss? Strangely, the single most important feature for me is the way that certain accounts are associated with certain addressees. You create a new mail, add a prior addressee, and the sending account changes automatically. For anyone who maintains several identities (e.g. personal, work#1, work#2, forums) this keeps it straight with zero thought. David. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Is there a way to not indent forwarded messages?
On 6 Feb 2014, at 15:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 6 Feb 2014, at 21:10, Andrew Cerier wrote: This function is similar to the redirect found in other mail tools, which I believe Benny has said will not be implemented. No, I think I've only said it wasn't implemented yet (and maybe that it was non-trivial to implement). It's actually available in the current test version of MailMate: Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane. You can read about the feature [here](http://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/206-redirect-message#ticket-206-14). Benny - Thank you, this is exactly what I wanted. Works perfectly. - Andy Note that “Redirect” in MailMate does not allow you to change anything in the message (because that would be wrong). Understood. Thank you. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
