Re: [MlMt] Setting up default address for GApps account

2014-04-09 Thread Jan Erik Moström
Ahh, I misunderstood. I thought that the account email had to be there. Thanks.

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Benny Kjær Nielsen
mailingl...@freron.com wrote:
 On 8 Apr 2014, at 11:32, Jan Erik Moström wrote:

 At work I'm currently trying out my universities GApps account to see
 if it makes my mobile life easier. This means that I have an account
 on the form

 myem...@gapps.univ.edu

 but my real official email address is

 myrealem...@dept.univ.edu

 and I've set up the GApps account to use myrealem...@dept.univ.edu
 by default. But how to I do that for MailMate?

 I've included the myrealem...@dept.univ.edu in Email Address(es)
 for the account but how do I get MailMate to use it by default?


 List it first or only list that address if you don't need the other one (for
 anything but as username for the IMAP/SMTP server). Doesn't that work for
 you?

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Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature

2014-04-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Apr 2014, at 23:19, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:

I rarely want to use a signature in email, but, I want the option of 
using one of several, depending upon various contexts I care about.  
Is there a way to do this?


No, only if the context is who you are writing to.

It seems to be all or nothing, and whilst I appreciate the 
intelligence MailMate tries to use to decide which signature to use, I 
actually want to manually select one only every now and then.


This is also the goal of the dynamic signatures. I would probably need 
to understand your contexts to understand the problem/request.


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Re: [MlMt] Smart folders and Contacts groups

2014-04-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Apr 2014, at 23:25, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:


Just started using MailMate and really liking it!


Thanks for trying out MailMate.

One of the few things I miss is some kind of integration with groups 
in Contacts (OS X Address book). I noticed two other feature request 
for this and wanted to add a +1 from me.


Noted.

Settings up smart folders for customers and groups of friends would be 
made a lot easier if one can use Contacts groups.


As a workaround, you might appreciate the trick described by Zvi Biener 
in [this mailing list post][1]. You could, for example, tag an email 
from a friend and then have a rule which tags all future emails from the 
same friend with the same tag. You only need 1 tag and 1 rule, but you 
can tag any number of friends. Alternatively, you could move messages to 
an IMAP mailbox instead of using a tag and then use a rule to move 
messages from the same sender.


[1]: 
https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg01977.html


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Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature

2014-04-09 Thread Luca Allodi

On 9 Apr 2014, at 10:23, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:

I look at them as business cards; I don't hand them out to everyone at 
every meeting.  There are very few times when I want to include them, 
and don't appreciate the huge waste of space they typically take up 
(especially in the corporate world).


So if I understand you correctly, you want MM to be trained *not* to 
insert a signature most of the time, and from time to time adding it 
yourself manually.


Would training MM in adding an *empty* signature solve your problem? A 
second signature with all the business card info you want to add to 
your email can then be manually selected, and the underlying mechanism 
(trained on the empty signature) would see this as noise and the overall 
behaviour would stay as you like.


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Re: [MlMt] Smart folders and Contacts groups

2014-04-09 Thread Annamarie

hi there,

I'm another who misses the groups feature of Mail.

Rules? Where are they? Yes, I've enabled Experimental 2.0 feature.

Thanks.
Annamarie

On 9 Apr 2014, at 4:59, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 8 Apr 2014, at 23:25, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:


Just started using MailMate and really liking it!


Thanks for trying out MailMate.

One of the few things I miss is some kind of integration with groups 
in Contacts (OS X Address book). I noticed two other feature request 
for this and wanted to add a +1 from me.


Noted.

Settings up smart folders for customers and groups of friends would 
be made a lot easier if one can use Contacts groups.


As a workaround, you might appreciate the trick described by Zvi 
Biener in [this mailing list post][1]. You could, for example, tag an 
email from a friend and then have a rule which tags all future emails 
from the same friend with the same tag. You only need 1 tag and 1 
rule, but you can tag any number of friends. Alternatively, you could 
move messages to an IMAP mailbox instead of using a tag and then use a 
rule to move messages from the same sender.


[1]: 
https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg01977.html


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Re: [MlMt] Smart folders and Contacts groups

2014-04-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 9 Apr 2014, at 12:19, Annamarie wrote:


I'm another who misses the groups feature of Mail.

Rules? Where are they? Yes, I've enabled Experimental 2.0 feature.


Rules can be added to any mailbox. Right-click a mailbox and choose 
“Edit Mailbox...” and notice the Rules pane.


If using rules then it's probably a good idea to update to the latest 
test version (various bug fixes): Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check 
Now” in the Software Update preferences pane (r4161 is currently the 
most recent revision).


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Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature

2014-04-09 Thread Scott A. McIntyre

Hi Fabian,


I don't know your exact case, but I as a colleague, customer and 
service provider hate it, when people don't include at least a 
telephone number to their emails. I have often dates with my clients 
and it is really annoying, when the traffic is bad and I'm not able to 
call them, because there is not telephone number



I get your preference here - my request was merely one to see if there 
was a way that MailMate, like other mail applications, could address my 
personal way of preferring email.  I've always preferred to type a 
command or click a button to get a specific signature added.


Unlike you, however, I detest (and never include) phone numbers in 
signatures.  I also do not include it on my business card.  Again, a 
personal preference, but, a phone call is an incredibly rude way to 
communicate for my world.  It's a hard interrupt.  It stops everything.  
It doesn't take into account that the person being called may have other 
(electronic) things they are working on...and, sadly, 99% of the calls I 
get are actually far better addressed by a simple, short, email.


But I work in a highly technical field and having things read out over 
the phone is just silly anyway -- it needs to be documented and 
cut-and-pastable.  If I need to have a call with someone, I can provide 
a contact number, or I can call them -- but I like maintaining that 
option manually.


Anyway, it's just a personal preference thing.  I was hoping there was 
some secret toggle somewhere that would let the stored Signatures in the 
Preferences exist, but only appear when I selected the one I wanted from 
the Signature drop-down in a compose window.


Regards,
Scott

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Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature

2014-04-09 Thread Scott A. McIntyre

Hi Luca,

So if I understand you correctly, you want MM to be trained *not* to 
insert a signature most of the time, and from time to time adding it 
yourself manually.


That's one way to accomplish the goal.  I honestly was thinking about 
this as simply as most other email applications I've used; from Mutt to 
Mail.app.  I want a shortcut to include specific text based upon a 
personal selection.  I don't really care about training.  I understand 
why that's really useful for others, but, I, personally, would be happy 
just being able to click on the Signature drop-down inside this compose 
window and select the .sig I wanted to use for this email.  I'm happy 
with not everything in life being fully automated.




Would training MM in adding an *empty* signature solve your problem? A 
second signature with all the business card info you want to add to 
your email can then be manually selected, and the underlying mechanism 
(trained on the empty signature) would see this as noise and the 
overall behaviour would stay as you like.


That might work and I'll see if there's some way to do that.  I haven't 
explored exactly how the training works, but, this might let me 
accomplish what I'm after.  Thanks for the idea.


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Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature

2014-04-09 Thread Fabian Blechschmidt

Hi Scott,

I'm sure you understand it the right way, but to be 110% sure: I don't 
want to tell you what to do :-) I know exactly what your problem is and 
I think I hate calls the same way you do. Thankfully my clients write me 
most of the time... Skype, email, whatever and don't call me.


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On 9 Apr 2014, at 21:49, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:


Hi Fabian,


I don't know your exact case, but I as a colleague, customer and 
service provider hate it, when people don't include at least a 
telephone number to their emails. I have often dates with my clients 
and it is really annoying, when the traffic is bad and I'm not able 
to call them, because there is not telephone number



I get your preference here - my request was merely one to see if there 
was a way that MailMate, like other mail applications, could address 
my personal way of preferring email.  I've always preferred to type a 
command or click a button to get a specific signature added.


Unlike you, however, I detest (and never include) phone numbers in 
signatures.  I also do not include it on my business card.  Again, a 
personal preference, but, a phone call is an incredibly rude way to 
communicate for my world.  It's a hard interrupt.  It stops 
everything.  It doesn't take into account that the person being called 
may have other (electronic) things they are working on...and, sadly, 
99% of the calls I get are actually far better addressed by a simple, 
short, email.


But I work in a highly technical field and having things read out over 
the phone is just silly anyway -- it needs to be documented and 
cut-and-pastable.  If I need to have a call with someone, I can 
provide a contact number, or I can call them -- but I like maintaining 
that option manually.


Anyway, it's just a personal preference thing.  I was hoping there was 
some secret toggle somewhere that would let the stored Signatures in 
the Preferences exist, but only appear when I selected the one I 
wanted from the Signature drop-down in a compose window.


Regards,
Scott

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