Re: [MlMt] Correspondence layout, shifted
On 14 Aug 2014, at 8:35, Olivier Bedouelle wrote: I place a folder Layouts in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/ but i don't see a layout in a menu view.. If you extract the zip file in that directory and re-open Mailmate it should work. Just make sure that the path is correct and that you close and re-open MM. Benny's instructions from the website are: To get a widescreen layout (as an option in the “View ▸ Layout” menu) you should download this file [ndL this file=.plist file] and copy it to the following location (creating the folders as necessary): ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/Layouts/Mailboxes/ You must restart MailMate to make the layout available. I hope this works for you. -- Luca Allodi DISI, Università degli Studi di Trento, Italy http://disi.unitn.it/~allodi/ - https://securitylab.disi.unitn.it/ Visiting Durham University. Durham, UK. (@secscientist)___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How do I change the shortcuts for Message Body Parts?
On 13 Aug 2014, at 13:43, Muster Hans wrote: The default shortcuts for View - Message Body Parts are alt-cmd-] and alt-cmd-[ I am using a Swiss keyboard, which uses alt-5 and alt-6 to represent [ and ] respectively. Therefore alt + [ or alt + ] are unavailable to me. 1. How do I change the shortcuts for these actions? In the System Preferences pane named Keyboard: Keyboard Shortcuts ▸ Application Shortcuts. 2. Does anyone have a suitable suggestion for replacement shorcuts? (less important) Nope, but note that you can also use custom key bindings to setup the shortcuts. The selectors are named `nextAlternative:` and `previousAlternative:` which I think is currently undocumented. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Correspondence layout, shifted
On 12 Aug 2014, at 19:27, Luca Allodi wrote: Today I spent some time flipping around my favourite MailMate layout, Correspondence. I am not sure anybody would really be interested in this re-organisation but I thought to share just in case. Thanks for sharing. It's an interesting layout. Anyway I have no idea how to query MM to return an email attachment. Benny, would something like attachments = $mainOutline.attachments work? I did not try. If there's a way to implement this I would happily give it a shot. No, that would not work. Such a transformation should be based on `ALL_BODY_PARTS` with some non-trivial filtering. At best you could get a separate webview with these attachments, but I'm not actually sure it would work. But I'll take it as another reminder to improve handling of attachments. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Resetting per-mailbox column state
On 14 Aug 2014, at 7:11, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 13 Aug 2014, at 20:52, Bill Cole wrote: I expect Benny will give me a proper slapping if this is substantially wrong, but I think this is worth sharing since I wasted a few hours trying to find a better fix for what is probably the result of a scale-sensitive bug. I'm sorry you had to spend time on this. I know there is a bug somewhere in this system, but I don't know what triggers it. Under certain circumstances MailMate starts to ignore changes to mailbox related display settings. I have a vague hypothesis based on the fact that my attempts to do targeted pruning of the giant MmMailboxRelatedStates dict yielded erratic results and small variances in what MM left in it after quitting. Across 16 snapshots, 249 mailboxes had entries in all, 261 different mailboxes had entries in at least one, and all contained 260 or 261 entries. Maybe some array of entries uses an 8-bit index? Seems unlikely, but only you could figure that out. Your reset-trick is correct and should be safe to use except for the loss of settings of course: defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates Let me know if you find a way to get MailMate back into the buggy state. (There is a possibility that this is only seen by long time users with old settings files — in other words, it might not be reproducible after the fix above.) Long time users or perhaps users who have large numbers of mailboxes. It seems like that pile of per-mailbox settings objects must grow almost strictly monotonically, as there's no obvious way to fully default a mailbox and do away with the need for its specific settings. Without a dedicated GC cycle to minimize it, a bloated broken MmMailboxRelatedStates may be inevitable for anyone with a large mailbox count. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Correspondence layout, shifted
Hi Luca, I have download this file and place it in the folder ressources/layouts/Mailboxes/ In a folder I have 3 files .plist: Widescreen.plist correspondence_minimal_shifted.plist correspondence_minimal.plist But I don't have in menu view a layout. Desoled, are you a solution for me ? Cordialy *** Olivier Bedouelle | +33 6 80 99 99 33 | [Vertdeco.fr](http://www.vertdeco.fr) *** On 14 Aug 2014, at 9:35, Olivier Bedouelle wrote: Hi Luca, I place a folder Layouts in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/ but i don't see a layout in a menu view.. Have you a idea ? Thanks Cordialy --- [![signature][LOGO]][vertdeco] [LOGO]:http://www.vertdeco.fr/doc/signatures/OBEP.png [vertdeco]:http://www.vertdeco.fr cliquez ici pour visiter le site web de Vertdéco --- On 12 Aug 2014, at 19:27, Luca Allodi wrote: Hi, Today I spent some time flipping around my favourite MailMate layout, Correspondence. I am not sure anybody would really be interested in this re-organisation but I thought to share just in case. So, you might be interested in this if you have similar thoughts as mine: - I like using MM through my keyboard shortcuts (e.g. to navigate mailboxes). - I like saving up space on the monitor - I also like having the email I am interested right in front of me, rather than next to one of the screen edges (right edge for the Widescreen layout, or bottom for the others). Because of this I don't need: - the full list of mailboxes to be always available for me to mouse-click - all the horizontal space dedicated to the mail listing - the actual mail body shifted to the bottom right because of all the space occupied by the Mailboxes vertical bar and by the Correspondence bit. Here's how I edited Correspondence (link on imgur.com):  One idea was also to include an additional panel showing only the attachments in the mail, for rapid access (they are always listed at the very bottom of the mail body and sometimes that's a bit annoying when I am looking through emails to find a particular attachment). The panel could be: - horizontal: for the classic quick look-save interface - vertical: for a full preview (but this would require plugins e.g. for PDFs etc). Anyway I have no idea how to query MM to return an email attachment. Benny, would something like attachments = $mainOutline.attachments work? I did not try. If there's a way to implement this I would happily give it a shot. Anyway, I attach the layout, which I named Correspondence Shifted because as a poet I fall quite short. The attachment is a zip file with the directory structure and the layout to place in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/ If you have other custom layouts already defined, make sure to merge the dirs rather than substituting yours with mine. If you like Correspondence Shifted but are uncomfortable with some changes ask and I'll deliver (if I know how to do it :-)) or you are welcome to modify it yourself and share it back. Cheers, -- Luca Allodi DISI, Università degli Studi di Trento, Italy http://disi.unitn.it/~allodi/ - https://securitylab.disi.unitn.it/ Visiting Durham University. Durham, UK. (@secscientist) [Layouts.zip] ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Correspondence layout, shifted
i've just unzipped the file at ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/ and restarted MailMate. It worked fine, the new layouts appeared at the bottom of the layout list. Paula On 14 Aug 2014, at 13:33, Olivier Bedouelle wrote: Hi Luca, I have download this file and place it in the folder ressources/layouts/Mailboxes/ In a folder I have 3 files .plist: Widescreen.plist correspondence_minimal_shifted.plist correspondence_minimal.plist But I don't have in menu view a layout. Desoled, are you a solution for me ? Cordialy *** Olivier Bedouelle | +33 6 80 99 99 33 | [Vertdeco.fr](http://www.vertdeco.fr) *** On 14 Aug 2014, at 9:35, Olivier Bedouelle wrote: Hi Luca, I place a folder Layouts in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/ but i don't see a layout in a menu view.. Have you a idea ? Thanks Cordialy --- [![signature][LOGO]][vertdeco] [LOGO]:http://www.vertdeco.fr/doc/signatures/OBEP.png [vertdeco]:http://www.vertdeco.fr cliquez ici pour visiter le site web de Vertdéco --- On 12 Aug 2014, at 19:27, Luca Allodi wrote: Hi, Today I spent some time flipping around my favourite MailMate layout, Correspondence. I am not sure anybody would really be interested in this re-organisation but I thought to share just in case. So, you might be interested in this if you have similar thoughts as mine: - I like using MM through my keyboard shortcuts (e.g. to navigate mailboxes). - I like saving up space on the monitor - I also like having the email I am interested right in front of me, rather than next to one of the screen edges (right edge for the Widescreen layout, or bottom for the others). Because of this I don't need: - the full list of mailboxes to be always available for me to mouse-click - all the horizontal space dedicated to the mail listing - the actual mail body shifted to the bottom right because of all the space occupied by the Mailboxes vertical bar and by the Correspondence bit. Here's how I edited Correspondence (link on imgur.com):  One idea was also to include an additional panel showing only the attachments in the mail, for rapid access (they are always listed at the very bottom of the mail body and sometimes that's a bit annoying when I am looking through emails to find a particular attachment). The panel could be: - horizontal: for the classic quick look-save interface - vertical: for a full preview (but this would require plugins e.g. for PDFs etc). Anyway I have no idea how to query MM to return an email attachment. Benny, would something like attachments = $mainOutline.attachments work? I did not try. If there's a way to implement this I would happily give it a shot. Anyway, I attach the layout, which I named Correspondence Shifted because as a poet I fall quite short. The attachment is a zip file with the directory structure and the layout to place in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/ If you have other custom layouts already defined, make sure to merge the dirs rather than substituting yours with mine. If you like Correspondence Shifted but are uncomfortable with some changes ask and I'll deliver (if I know how to do it :-)) or you are welcome to modify it yourself and share it back. Cheers, -- Luca Allodi DISI, Università degli Studi di Trento, Italy http://disi.unitn.it/~allodi/ - https://securitylab.disi.unitn.it/ Visiting Durham University. Durham, UK. (@secscientist) [Layouts.zip] ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Correspondence layout, shifted
I find. My name folder resources is ressources (frencharghhh) It's good now. Thank you ! *** Olivier Bedouelle | +33 6 80 99 99 33 | [Vertdeco.fr](http://www.vertdeco.fr) *** On 14 Aug 2014, at 18:33, Olivier Bedouelle wrote: Hi Luca, I have download this file and place it in the folder ressources/layouts/Mailboxes/ In a folder I have 3 files .plist: Widescreen.plist correspondence_minimal_shifted.plist correspondence_minimal.plist But I don't have in menu view a layout. Desoled, are you a solution for me ? Cordialy *** Olivier Bedouelle | +33 6 80 99 99 33 | [Vertdeco.fr](http://www.vertdeco.fr) *** On 14 Aug 2014, at 9:35, Olivier Bedouelle wrote: Hi Luca, I place a folder Layouts in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/ but i don't see a layout in a menu view.. Have you a idea ? Thanks Cordialy --- [![signature][LOGO]][vertdeco] [LOGO]:http://www.vertdeco.fr/doc/signatures/OBEP.png [vertdeco]:http://www.vertdeco.fr cliquez ici pour visiter le site web de Vertdéco --- On 12 Aug 2014, at 19:27, Luca Allodi wrote: Hi, Today I spent some time flipping around my favourite MailMate layout, Correspondence. I am not sure anybody would really be interested in this re-organisation but I thought to share just in case. So, you might be interested in this if you have similar thoughts as mine: - I like using MM through my keyboard shortcuts (e.g. to navigate mailboxes). - I like saving up space on the monitor - I also like having the email I am interested right in front of me, rather than next to one of the screen edges (right edge for the Widescreen layout, or bottom for the others). Because of this I don't need: - the full list of mailboxes to be always available for me to mouse-click - all the horizontal space dedicated to the mail listing - the actual mail body shifted to the bottom right because of all the space occupied by the Mailboxes vertical bar and by the Correspondence bit. Here's how I edited Correspondence (link on imgur.com):  One idea was also to include an additional panel showing only the attachments in the mail, for rapid access (they are always listed at the very bottom of the mail body and sometimes that's a bit annoying when I am looking through emails to find a particular attachment). The panel could be: - horizontal: for the classic quick look-save interface - vertical: for a full preview (but this would require plugins e.g. for PDFs etc). Anyway I have no idea how to query MM to return an email attachment. Benny, would something like attachments = $mainOutline.attachments work? I did not try. If there's a way to implement this I would happily give it a shot. Anyway, I attach the layout, which I named Correspondence Shifted because as a poet I fall quite short. The attachment is a zip file with the directory structure and the layout to place in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/ If you have other custom layouts already defined, make sure to merge the dirs rather than substituting yours with mine. If you like Correspondence Shifted but are uncomfortable with some changes ask and I'll deliver (if I know how to do it :-)) or you are welcome to modify it yourself and share it back. Cheers, -- Luca Allodi DISI, Università degli Studi di Trento, Italy http://disi.unitn.it/~allodi/ - https://securitylab.disi.unitn.it/ Visiting Durham University. Durham, UK. (@secscientist) [Layouts.zip] ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
