Re: [MlMt] Cannot connect to iCloud mailbox

2014-10-08 Thread Kip DeGraaf

Sorry, should have mentioned that in the previous posting.

Build 4551 is what I was running.  I've grabbed 4555 this morning, made 
a new App-Specific Password, still unable to use iCloud mail.


I've removed the IMAP Source and reimported it a couple of times now.  
I've made sure that the IMAP username is just the username and not the 
full email address, while still using full email for SMTP.


And while the connection doctor available in Apple Mail leaves a bit to 
be desired, it does show, as does the Apple Mail account preferences, 
that it is using Apple Token to get connected to iCloud Mail.


If it would help, I'm happy to give you a copy of the connection log 
from Apple Mail for my iCloud account.



On 8 Oct 2014, at 2:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 8 Oct 2014, at 1:11, Kip DeGraaf wrote:

For what it's worth, I had to go into my Manage Apple ID section to 
enable Two-step verification before I could create App-Specific 
Passwords.


However, even after enabling that and creating an App-Specific 
Password, I still get this in my Activity Viewer:


Make sure you are not affected by a bug in one of the recent test 
versions. This bug could roll back your IMAP settings to something 
that didn't work in the past (and therefore you changed it). For 
iCloud accounts this could be the use of a full email address as 
username instead of only the username part of the email address.


23:00:06 S: * OK [CAPABILITY st11p00mm-iscream012 14G 
XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR AUTH=ATOKEN AUTH=PLAIN] 
iSCREAM ready to rumble


Off topic: I guess Apple Mail uses “AUTH=ATOKEN” to login. I'm 
offline at the time of writing this and cannot look it up, but I do 
know it is not supported by MailMate.


Was asked for the password twice even though I had already set the 
password in the Edit IMAP Account section.


When authentication fails then MailMate keeps on asking. I did make 
some recent changes to password handling which means I'm not ruling 
out any new bugs.


If you still cannot make it work then let's debug the issue off list.

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Re: [MlMt] Cannot connect to iCloud mailbox

2014-10-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 7 Oct 2014, at 23:41, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:


On 8 Oct 2014, at 8:35, Steve Mayer wrote:

You should have received an email from Apple a few weeks back 
concerning the requirement of using app specific passwords for third 
party apps accessing iCloud.  It appears they turned this on today.


I guess I'll be receiving a lot of feedback related to this the next few 
days :-)


Seems a bit strange that this does not include Apple Mail. I wonder what 
prevents a third party app from pretending to be Apple Mail…


I was able to generate an app specific password for MailMate and the 
login worked again fine.


Great tip, Steve, thanks.  That was it indeed.

I've had so many mails from Apple for dev testing on 10.10 that this 
particular one slipped by me.


Worth noting for others!


Well, if I received such an email in my iCloud account then I also 
missed it (and apparently also deleted it).


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Re: [MlMt] Cannot connect to iCloud mailbox

2014-10-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Oct 2014, at 1:11, Kip DeGraaf wrote:

For what it's worth, I had to go into my Manage Apple ID section to 
enable Two-step verification before I could create App-Specific 
Passwords.


However, even after enabling that and creating an App-Specific 
Password, I still get this in my Activity Viewer:


Make sure you are not affected by a bug in one of the recent test 
versions. This bug could roll back your IMAP settings to something that 
didn't work in the past (and therefore you changed it). For iCloud 
accounts this could be the use of a full email address as username 
instead of only the username part of the email address.


23:00:06 S: * OK [CAPABILITY st11p00mm-iscream012 14G 
XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR AUTH=ATOKEN AUTH=PLAIN] 
iSCREAM ready to rumble


Off topic: I guess Apple Mail uses “AUTH=ATOKEN” to login. I'm 
offline at the time of writing this and cannot look it up, but I do know 
it is not supported by MailMate.


Was asked for the password twice even though I had already set the 
password in the Edit IMAP Account section.


When authentication fails then MailMate keeps on asking. I did make some 
recent changes to password handling which means I'm not ruling out any 
new bugs.


If you still cannot make it work then let's debug the issue off list.

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