[MlMt] Submailbox string format

2015-02-18 Thread Mike Brasch

Moin Moin!

I'm trying to make the names of submailboxes are named by their folder 
without the full path. Currently I'm using the default


${#source.path.noinbox}

which leads into folder names like

Mailinglisten/MailMate

Now I want remove the Mailinglisten/. How can I do this.

Maybe a feature request: it would be very helpful to have something like 
a code completion menu to see an overview of the possible values (what 
is the correct name for this?).


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Gruß
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Re: [MlMt] keeping sent mail with other mail

2015-02-18 Thread Marco Carmosino

Hi all,

I actually had a fantastically helpful conversation on this mailing list 
that led to the following smart folder, Threaded Inbox, which always 
has threading turned on:


Any of:

All of:
Thread-id is in Inbox Thread-id
Source  Path is Inbox/Sent Messages
Message-id is not in Mailing Lists Message-Id

All of:
Thread-id is in Inbox Thread-id
Source  Path is not Inbox/Sent Messages

This has the effect of including whole conversations in my inbox so that 
my replies are included in threads (by sourcing from Sent Mail) and 
filtering out duplicates from mailing lists (by using the message-ids in 
the Mailing Lists smart folder), without BCCing myself or anything.


Admittedly is is heavily reliant on MailMate's intelligence. But, I 
figure, stuff like this is exactly why I got the program.


best,

-- Marco


On 17 Feb 2015, at 17:29, Shoshanna Green wrote:


On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Allie Martin a...@maclink.me wrote:



On 17 Feb 2015, at 9:02, Shoshanna Green wrote:
For three decades, I've kept track of my outgoing mail by BCC:ing 
myself.


How do you deal with list messages where a duplicate is sent back to 
you?  Do you disable that feature on the mail server  if you can? 
 Or do you simply tolerate the duplications?


Yes, exactly. It's much less of a problem than having conversations 
split in half!


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Re: [MlMt] keeping sent mail with other mail

2015-02-18 Thread David Morrison

Shoshanna Green 2015-02-17 15:02 wrote:

But this morning it occurred to me that MMate's 
experimental 2.0 feature of Rules lets me just 
set up a rule on my Sent Messages mailbox that 
says to move all incoming messages to my Inbox! 
So simple. So obvious.


I used to have a lot of rules that moved both 
received and sent mails to folders per 
person/company/project etc. Always fretting 
where to stora mail, Is this more project or 
company or Š.


With MailMate I dump everything I have processed 
in to Archive and let all sent mails stay in 
Sent. Quick and easy.


I then use MailMates (really) Smart folders to 
organise all mails (received and sent) according 
to person/company/project. With Smart folders 
one mail can be in several folders, person and 
project e.g.


Many Smart folders are simply this:

Mailboxes: All Messages
Conditions: Any Address - Domain is example.com

MailMates smart folders and custom keybindings are for me its killer features.


That's fine if all your messages for a particular 
smart folder have some common factor, such as a 
mailing list name. But what happens when the 
mailing list changes its name or host or 
something?


Or if a project you are working on gets mail 
messages from random people. These sorts of 
message I file manually because no rule could 
ever pick them up reliably.


How could smart folders work in these cases?

I have been using e-mail for far too many years 
and have come across these situations too many 
times to be able to rely on smart folders to find 
what I want.


Cheers

David
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Re: [MlMt] Submailbox string format

2015-02-18 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 18 Feb 2015, at 10:43, Mike Brasch wrote:

I'm trying to make the names of submailboxes are named by their folder 
without the full path. Currently I'm using the default


${#source.path.noinbox}

which leads into folder names like

Mailinglisten/MailMate

Now I want remove the Mailinglisten/. How can I do this.


You can use a regular expression in the format string like this:

${#source.path.noinbox/Mailinglisten\///}

It says, replace `Mailinglisten/` with the empty string. It becomes a 
bit unreadably because of the escaped `/` character.


Maybe a feature request: it would be very helpful to have something 
like a code completion menu to see an overview of the possible values 
(what is the correct name for this?).


My first step should probably be to document the feature :-)

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Re: [MlMt] Server unavailable

2015-02-18 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 18 Feb 2015, at 1:20, Allie Martin wrote:

If an source comes up with mailboxes as 'unavailable', what does this 
mean?


That something went wrong with the connection and MailMate is going to 
try again later. “Later” is a very short time at first, but it 
increases if it continues to fail. This handles all kinds of server and 
network issues.


One of my accounts has all the mailboxes as 'unavailable'.  I connect 
to the account using my iPhone just fine.


There is a known issue with Gmail for some users on some networks. I 
still haven't resolved that.


The activity viewer isn't at all 'verbose' on the matter so I have no 
idea what's happening.  Any logs that I can check?


Logs can be found in the “Activity Viewer” (⌥⌘0). If you open 
that window and relaunch MailMate to make sure connecting to the account 
is retried then you can use “Help ▸ Send Server Logs” to let me 
review the problem. (Note that logging is only enabled when the activity 
window is open.)


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Re: [MlMt] keeping sent mail with other mail

2015-02-18 Thread John Cooper

On 2015-02-18 02:24, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:


I used to have a lot of rules that moved both received and sent mails
to folders per person/company/project etc. Always fretting where to
stora mail, Is this more project or company or ….

With MailMate I dump everything I have processed in to Archive and
let all sent mails stay in Sent. Quick and easy.


True, and MailMate's smart folder feature is indeed a thing of beauty. 
However, after twenty years of using and dealing with email, of having 
loved Eudora until it expired, of having been forced to use Outlook 
under various flavors of Windows, of having used Apple Mail until its 
integration with Gmail broke horribly, and finally having moved my mail 
from Gmail to a personal host with MailMate as my primary (but not 
unique) mail access program, I'm not willing to file my mail in such a 
way that *only* MailMate will be able to intelligently retrieve it for 
me. My mail client must be smart enough to file my mail where I can find 
it without the use of my preferred mail client. And so I depend on 
rules.


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Re: [MlMt] keeping sent mail with other mail

2015-02-18 Thread Edward Thome

On 18 Feb 2015, at 14:17, Marco Carmosino wrote:


Hi all,

I actually had a fantastically helpful conversation on this mailing 
list that led to the following smart folder, Threaded Inbox, which 
always has threading turned on:


Any of:

All of:
Thread-id is in Inbox Thread-id
Source  Path is Inbox/Sent Messages
Message-id is not in Mailing Lists Message-Id

All of:
Thread-id is in Inbox Thread-id
Source  Path is not Inbox/Sent Messages

This has the effect of including whole conversations in my inbox so 
that my replies are included in threads (by sourcing from Sent Mail) 
and filtering out duplicates from mailing lists (by using the 
message-ids in the Mailing Lists smart folder), without BCCing myself 
or anything.


I found this very interesting, but I had a question.  How does one set 
up the entries:

Source  Path is Inbox/Sent Messages
or
Source  Path is not Inbox/Sent Messages
in either of the two lines above?

For me,
Source  Path is Inbox/Sent Messages
causes the first ALL to not generate any emails, and in the second 
ALL, the same emails are listed whether or not

Source  Path is not Inbox/Sent Messages
is in there. So I am guessing that I am making some error in how I set 
it up.


Thank you,
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