Re: [MlMt] Stop automatic download of incoming messages

2016-09-08 Thread John Cooper

Max Rydahl Andersen wrote (at 11:18 on 8 Sep 2016):


On 8 Sep 2016, at 18:54, John Cooper wrote:

So you want to stay online, but not check for messages. What about 
setting **Mailbox > Synchronization Schedule** to **Manually**?


does not work - mailmate will fetch when putting folder in focus.


That's surprising. When this option is set, the intuitive result would 
be only to fetch when using **Mailbox > Synchronize ""** or its 
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Re: [MlMt] Stop automatic download of incoming messages

2016-09-08 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen

On 8 Sep 2016, at 18:54, John Cooper wrote:


Esteban Umerez Argaia wrote (at 9:14 on 8 Sep 2016):


Hello everybody,

This is what I would like to do: I want to be able to launch MailMate 
in order to draft or send a message, but not have my incoming 
messages be downloaded to my Inbox.


I want to turn off my email for a few hours, so I can concentrate in 
a difficult task, but I still want to be able to send a message every 
once in a while.


So you want to stay online, but not check for messages. What about 
setting **Mailbox > Synchronization Schedule** to **Manually**?


does not work - mailmate will fetch when putting folder in focus.

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Re: [MlMt] Stop automatic download of incoming messages

2016-09-08 Thread John Cooper

Esteban Umerez Argaia wrote (at 9:14 on 8 Sep 2016):


Hello everybody,

This is what I would like to do: I want to be able to launch MailMate 
in order to draft or send a message, but not have my incoming messages 
be downloaded to my Inbox.


I want to turn off my email for a few hours, so I can concentrate in a 
difficult task, but I still want to be able to send a message every 
once in a while.


So you want to stay online, but not check for messages. What about 
setting **Mailbox > Synchronization Schedule** to **Manually**?___
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[MlMt] Stop automatic download of incoming messages

2016-09-08 Thread Esteban Umerez Argaia

Hello everybody,

This is what I would like to do: I want to be able to launch MailMate in 
order to draft or send a message, but not have my incoming messages be 
downloaded to my Inbox.


I want to turn off my email for a few hours, so I can concentrate in a 
difficult task, but I still want to be able to send a message every once 
in a while. Or even draft an idea for a future message, without having 
my Inbox remind me that there are many emails incoming that I need to 
attend.


So far, I have turned off every notification in MailMate, and I keep it 
running in the background without bothering me, but it does not seem the 
solution I need. I still go and look at my Inbox.


Is there any way to stop automatic downloading of the incoming messages.

Thanks in advance, and forgive my poor English.

Esteban Umerez
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Re: [MlMt] Feature Request: BCC warning/intro

2016-09-08 Thread Shoshanna Green

On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:43, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:


On 8 Sep 2016, at 3:51, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 8 Sep 2016, at 1:05, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:

My issue with bcc is that when I “reply” to one in my sent mail, 
the bcc’ed addresses from the original don’t show up. I’d 
prefer they were back in the bcc on the new message.


I believe this was (recently) fixed when I fixed an issue with 
editing drafts with customized Bcc headers. Am I wrong?


Yes. It still doesn’t work for me. Version 2.0BETA (6054)


FWIW, it does seem to work for me on version 1.9.5 (5260), although I've 
only done a quick test so far.


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Re: [MlMt] Feature Request: BCC warning/intro

2016-09-08 Thread John D. Muccigrosso

On 8 Sep 2016, at 3:51, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 8 Sep 2016, at 1:05, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:

My issue with bcc is that when I “reply” to one in my sent mail, 
the bcc’ed addresses from the original don’t show up. I’d 
prefer they were back in the bcc on the new message.


I believe this was (recently) fixed when I fixed an issue with editing 
drafts with customized Bcc headers. Am I wrong?


Yes. It still doesn’t work for me. Version 2.0BETA (6054)

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Re: [MlMt] HTML Signature don't always work.

2016-09-08 Thread Pedro Lobo
Agreed, not at all a high priority. At least we know what’s causing it 
;)


Cheers,
Pedro

On 8 Sep 2016, at 8:16, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 7 Sep 2016, at 18:48, Pedro Lobo wrote:


OK, I think I nailed the issue. When I have:

_Message View: Theme for plain text emails is Standard_ **AND** 
_Apply to HTML emails when possible_ MailMate ignores the signatures 
HTML variant and uses the markdown one instead.


Ah, yes, that would result in this behavior. It doesn't actually 
affect what is sent by MailMate. An HTML body part is still generated 
with your HTML signature. But the setting makes MailMate take the 
plain text body part and convert it using the Markdown converter when 
displaying the message. This allows your own display stylesheet to be 
used, but the HTML signature is “lost” in this process. It's a bit 
tricky how this is best solved, but it's not (currently) a high 
priority :)


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Re: [MlMt] HTML Signature don't always work.

2016-09-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 7 Sep 2016, at 18:48, Pedro Lobo wrote:


OK, I think I nailed the issue. When I have:

_Message View: Theme for plain text emails is Standard_ **AND** _Apply 
to HTML emails when possible_ MailMate ignores the signatures HTML 
variant and uses the markdown one instead.


Ah, yes, that would result in this behavior. It doesn't actually affect 
what is sent by MailMate. An HTML body part is still generated with your 
HTML signature. But the setting makes MailMate take the plain text body 
part and convert it using the Markdown converter when displaying the 
message. This allows your own display stylesheet to be used, but the 
HTML signature is “lost” in this process. It's a bit tricky how this 
is best solved, but it's not (currently) a high priority :)


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Re: [MlMt] Contacts, VIPs as Mailbox Conditions

2016-09-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 7 Sep 2016, at 17:06, Jamie Phelps wrote:

I want to set up a mailbox whose Conditions require that the from 
email address be found in my Contacts. Bonus points for being able to 
filter by VIPs. As an extension of this, being able to group 
submailboxes by the contact person (regardless of what email address 
or name is attached to the mail message itself) would be aces.


I didn't quite get the last part. Do you mean if the contact has 
multiple email addresses then it should still be grouped in one mailbox 
per Contact?


In Mail.app, I have a few Smart Mailboxes set up that I use to triage 
my email. If I only have a moment, I check my VIP Inbox. If I have a 
little more time, I look at what's in my Contacts Inbox. (The Contacts 
Inbox is keyed to a Smart Group in Contacts whose only criterion is 
that the email address contains an @ symbol. MailMate could remove 
this step.) Then, I look for important domains like my work domain. 
Finally, I check a last bucket that has everything else. This last 
bucket gets processed a couple times per week only but my others get 
processed at least once per day.


I know there have been other requests for Contacts and Groups related 
things, but to me, this is one of the simple ways that MailMate is 
still slightly deficient for how I triage my email and being able to 
set Contacts presence as a Condition for a mailbox would be fantastic.


When (hopefully) I get around to adding better integration with Contacts 
then I'll keep the above in mind. I'll also note to contact you for 
testing that the integration works for you.


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Re: [MlMt] Changing labels in gmail does not reflect in mailmate

2016-09-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Sep 2016, at 2:58, Vincent Danen wrote:

I've removed some labels in the gmail web interface and those show up 
fine in mailmate, and one that I've added shows up fine.  I used to 
have a bunch of "context" labels like @ACTION and @WAITINGFOR and 
realized the other day that only half of them are showing up.


When I go to edit subscriptions, I see them in the list and they're 
checked off but they're not showing in my folder list.  So I changed 
the labels in gmail hoping to encourage mailmate to pick them up 
(changed them from @SOMETHING to _SOMETHING) and now all (but one) of 
my @ labels are gone, but none of the new ones are showing up.


Have you mapped tag names to any of these Gmail labels (in the Tags 
preferences pane)? That would trigger MailMate to hide the Gmail label 
mailboxes.


I've since upgraded to r5261 and now the edit subscriptions button 
throws an error (Error: "") so I can't see if they're listed there or 
not.


That's bad and probably related to my recent changes to OAuth2 
authentication. I would very much like to debug that. I'll contact you 
off list.


Any ideas what's happening?  Not sure why half of the "@" labels would 
show up and the other half wouldn't; they're all set to show in IMAP.


I suspect it might be related to tags as described above, but you can 
also try relaunching MailMate to make 100% it detects changes in the 
reported IMAP mailboxes.


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Re: [MlMt] Feature Request: BCC warning/intro

2016-09-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 7 Sep 2016, at 23:20, Patrik Fältström wrote:


On 7 Sep 2016, at 17:05, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

That's what I do, too, which suggests an even more stringent 
mechanism: put the original To/Cc lines into the body of the bcc 
copy.  Yes, it's an extra SMTP, but so is doing it manually.


FWIW, I do not use BCC either (some people use to too much, like 
instead of mailing lists or alias expansion on server side), but WHEN 
I do it, I would like it to be more clear. Sure, in some cases I send 
the first mail, and then forward the sent mail to the "bcc" recipient 
like "FYI, look what I did send". But then maybe THAT should be the 
feature (which seems to be similar to what you suggest as well)?


Both of the above are interesting ideas. The latter might be less 
confusing for recipients since it'll just automate what several of you 
already do instead of using `Bcc:`. It's also closer to what MailMate 
can already do. In fact, I think it might be possible to create a bundle 
command which offered some kind of “Send and Forward” command, but 
to really work well then it would probably also require me to add a bit 
of functionality. I'll give it some thought.


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Re: [MlMt] Feature Request: BCC warning/intro

2016-09-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Sep 2016, at 1:05, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:

My issue with bcc is that when I “reply” to one in my sent mail, 
the bcc’ed addresses from the original don’t show up. I’d prefer 
they were back in the bcc on the new message.


I believe this was (recently) fixed when I fixed an issue with editing 
drafts with customized Bcc headers. Am I wrong?


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