Re: [MlMt] expiring deleted and sent
Oh, I somehow missed your adding that option. I just checked and see it, although some explanation is needed. If I have a mailbox with the condition “date-received is not within last 12 months” what does the option “limit at start of the month” exactly do? At first reading, it sounds like it will check only once a month. If that is correct, that would be too seldom. I delete like 200 to 500 emails a day, so the deletion queue would accumulate quite a bit over the month, way beyond what I can inspect optically (occasionally, I archive some mails after all). My suggestion would be to offer further options: once a month, once a week, once a day if counting months, once a week, once a day if counting weeks, etc. However, the most optimal, at least for me, would be if I could specify the time of the day for the check to execute, regardless whether I count days, weeks or months. I am guessing that you probably wouldn’t have to change much the actual execution for that option, just add the interface to set it. Well, you could simply add further options to that popup, like daily at 1am, daily at 7am, daily at 1pm, daily at 7pm. Yeah, 4 options for time would do, me thinks. On 10 Oct 2018, at 21:02, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: If you go back to these date conditions then the comparison popup should have an option to limit matching emails to the start of the day or the start of the month. This would have the effect of bumping the count only once a day (or month). This is the default behavior for date comparisons now (but it doesn't affect date conditions already created). ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] expiring deleted and sent
On 10 Oct 2018, at 17:30, Robert Brenstein wrote: I have several mailboxes that show me old mails that are due to be deleted, some after 30 days, some 6 months, some 1 year. Notably, I do not use automatic deletion as I want to check them before deletion. Those smart mailboxes user date-received as the condition and that works really well. I have submitted in lighthouse an enhancement request, though, to be able to set how often those mailboxes update. Ideally, I’d like to deal with deletions only once or twice a day — the increasing counters prompt me (not force me but I feel compelled) to delete several times a day. If you go back to these date conditions then the comparison popup should have an option to limit matching emails to the start of the day or the start of the month. This would have the effect of bumping the count only once a day (or month). This is the default behavior for date comparisons now (but it doesn't affect date conditions already created). -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Position in mailbox table of contents after restart
On 10 Oct 2018, at 14:09, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 9 Oct 2018, at 16:06, Robert Brenstein wrote: Hmm, it seems the MM (at least version 1.12 (5523)) already behaves that way. If I select something in the search results and dismiss the search, the selection stays. If I select nothing in the search results, the selection from before search is restored. Nice! Option-click on the minus seems to be removing any selection. Hmm, that's not intentional. I'll note it as a bug. Well, I would just document it. It might come handy at times. What is missing only is shift-click on minus to restore old selection even if something was selected in the search results. So that's a feature request I assume :) I'll make another note. Yes, it will complement the other actions. Robert___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] expiring deleted and sent
I have several mailboxes that show me old mails that are due to be deleted, some after 30 days, some 6 months, some 1 year. Notably, I do not use automatic deletion as I want to check them before deletion. Those smart mailboxes user date-received as the condition and that works really well. I have submitted in lighthouse an enhancement request, though, to be able to set how often those mailboxes update. Ideally, I’d like to deal with deletions only once or twice a day — the increasing counters prompt me (not force me but I feel compelled) to delete several times a day. Robert On 10 Oct 2018, at 14:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: * There's no way to make deletion happen 30 days after a message has been added to a mailbox. The closest is to base it on the virtual “Date-Last-Viewed” header, but this won't work well for messages never viewed or messages viewed on a different machine. It might make sense to introduce a virtual date header which remembers when a message was first seen by MailMate in its current IMAP mailbox. I'll give that some thought. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] expiring deleted and sent
On 10 Oct 2018, at 0:46, Randall Gellens wrote: On 8 Oct 2018, at 10:52, Randy Bush wrote: clearly i do not understand how a smart mailbox is different than a stupid one Think of a smart mailbox as a continually executed search. You can perform actions on messages that meet the search criteria. Yes, a smart mailbox is just a saved search. Technically, everything in MailMate is a search including the IMAP mailboxes (but that's an implementation detail). Some other comments for this thread: * Smart mailboxes are always up-to-date. The only exception is if, e.g., marking something as read in a mailbox of unread messages. Updating is then delayed until the mailbox is deselected (MailMate has go through hoops to make this happen because up-to-date is its modus operandi). * Smart mailboxes involving date-based conditions are updated exactly when the date condition is met. MailMate sets up a timer after figuring out which message is the next one to be added to or removed from the mailbox. * There's no way to make deletion happen 30 days after a message has been added to a mailbox. The closest is to base it on the virtual “Date-Last-Viewed” header, but this won't work well for messages never viewed or messages viewed on a different machine. It might make sense to introduce a virtual date header which remembers when a message was first seen by MailMate in its current IMAP mailbox. I'll give that some thought. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Position in mailbox table of contents after restart
On 9 Oct 2018, at 16:06, Robert Brenstein wrote: Hmm, it seems the MM (at least version 1.12 (5523)) already behaves that way. If I select something in the search results and dismiss the search, the selection stays. If I select nothing in the search results, the selection from before search is restored. Nice! Option-click on the minus seems to be removing any selection. Hmm, that's not intentional. I'll note it as a bug. What is missing only is shift-click on minus to restore old selection even if something was selected in the search results. So that's a feature request I assume :) I'll make another note. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] OmniFocus command doesn't work
On 5 Oct 2018, at 11:19, Jan Erik Moström wrote: Any idea why this doesn't work? Anything to do with the new permissions in Mohave? That's not unlikely. Try the latest release of MailMate: http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5537.tbz Also check your “System Preferences ▸ Security & Privacy ▸ Privacy ▸ Automation” settings. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rule to bounce messages with no subject
On 10 Oct 2018, at 7:55, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 4 Oct 2018, at 16:12, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: Has anyone written a rule to check all incoming mail, and if the ‘Subject’ is empty, bounce it back to the original sender, perhaps with a message prepended? This is possible, but it's a (very) low-level feature. You need to create a bundle with a bundle command which uses the `replyMessage` action. Bundles are documented [here](https://github.com/mailmate/mailmate_manual/wiki/Bundles) if you are feeling adventurous. If you can make it work using the “Command” menu item then you can use the command as part of a rule added to your Inbox. Thanks for the pointer. I’ll let you know how it works out. v ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rule to bounce messages with no subject
On 4 Oct 2018, at 16:12, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: Has anyone written a rule to check all incoming mail, and if the ‘Subject’ is empty, bounce it back to the original sender, perhaps with a message prepended? This is possible, but it's a (very) low-level feature. You need to create a bundle with a bundle command which uses the `replyMessage` action. Bundles are documented [here](https://github.com/mailmate/mailmate_manual/wiki/Bundles) if you are feeling adventurous. If you can make it work using the “Command” menu item then you can use the command as part of a rule added to your Inbox. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Counter in dock icon
On 5 Oct 2018, at 13:00, Pascal Felber wrote: I am using BetterTouchTool together with the GoldenChaos-BTT extension to customise the touch bar of my laptop, and notably show the number of unread messages. There are a number of scripts provided to extract the number of unread messages from various mail clients, but not MailMate. When trying to adapt the scripts to support MailMate, I got the feeling that MailMate does not use the same UI elements to display the counter/badge. MailMate has custom code to draw icon badges because it has multiple counters. But I've been meaning to try to display the top-right counter using Apple's API. For now, I've added the following experimental feature to do this: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmUseStandardBadgeLabel -bool YES After I added the code to handle this then your script also works for me if I replace Mail with MailMate. This change is in the next update (r5538+). Let me know if you have any issues with it. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
