Re: [MlMt] Second attachments folder
On 6 Jan 2019, at 8:57, Tobias Jung wrote: Hello, I’ve been working with MailMate for almost a year now… and yesterday, I saw something I wasn’t aware of before. *blush* In MailMate’s preferences I’ve set the "Default Downloads Folder" to ~/Attachments-MailMate/ That is where MM will save attachments that you explicitly save. And yesterday, I saw that there’s *another* folder which contained almost all the attachments I’ve received, namely ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Attachments I searched the manual for this, but if it’s explained somewhere, I didn’t find it. I believe that Benny has explained it here but5 I think you're correct: it's not really documented. So I tested a bit and my conclusion are: – The attachments are saved to the folder in the Library when you hit the "QuickLook" button in the message to display a attachment. – They are deleted again from this folder when you delete the message that contained the attachment. Are the conclusions correct? I believe so and that is my recollection of Benny's discussion of the Attachments folder. Are there any other circumstances under which the attachments get deleted from the folder in the Library? I think not, but I could be wrong. Can it have any negative side effects if I deleted files from that folder manually? I certainly hope not. If it does, I am likely to be the metaphorical canary in the coal mine... I have deleted many files out of Attachments over ~5 years and have seen no problems that I can associate to that practice. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not complaining about anything, I just like to understand what’s going on on my harddisk. ;-) Moreover, since the attachments are stored in the message (.eml) file anyway, I don’t see why they should take up space on my disk another time, so from time to time I might remove them from the Library IF this doesn’t cause any trouble and of they aren’t purged from that folder automatically at some point anyway (i.e. even if I don’t delete the message itself). That's what I do. I've seen no trouble and no indication that MM ever purges Attachments. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non MM related question about email hosting and web hosting
I am running all services at JaguarPC for many years with no issues. On 6 Jan 2019, at 20:36, Bharath M Palavalli wrote: Dear John and Ian, Thank you for your responses. I am tending towards Postbox.com for now for email. I hadn’t looked at Netlify, but it seems to be an interesting choice too! -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Second attachments folder
Hi Tobias – The attachments are saved to the folder in the Library when you hit the "QuickLook" button in the message to display a attachment. – They are deleted again from this folder when you delete the message that contained the attachment. From my understanding attachments are saved in the `Application Support` path when MailMate is somehow asked to deliver the attachments to an external service. This happens when: * *Viewing* the attachment via Quicklook * *Opening* the attachment via the ‘Open with’ system of macOS. In the latter case be aware that some tools which open your file will write new files in that location (think Archive Utility: If you open a zip file Archive Utility will create a folder with the zip content in MailMate’s Attachment folder. Be aware, if I understand this correctly this folder inside the attachment directory will never be deleted by MailMate. Can it have any negative side effects if I deleted files from that folder manually? I don’t think so. When you delete an attachment from that directory and quicklook th it again, MailMate will save it there again. Moreover, since the attachments are stored in the message (.eml) file anyway, I don’t see why they should take up space on my disk another time, so from time to time I might remove them from the Library IF this doesn’t cause any trouble and of they aren’t purged from that folder automatically at some point anyway (i.e. even if I don’t delete the message itself). This sort of clean-up is a great idea! (Thinking of creating a little [Hazel](https://www.noodlesoft.com/) rule! :-) ) But I think the final word whether this is really save to do should have Benny here. Cheers, Leo___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non MM related question about email hosting and web hosting
Hello - > email host and simple web host for personal, non-commercial use … > static website… > price b/w 70-100 USD I have been using Webfaction for a long time, but they got bought by GoDaddy, a move which I’m not comfortable with. They have been fine for both email and web/app hosting, for the many years I’ve used them and, they have great support. That being said I’m thinking about changing to something else and both Gandi and MediaTemple look good for shared hosting. I use Hugo for many sites, and host many of those on Amazon AWS S3 with Cloudfront. It’s trivial and cheap to host static on S3. Hugo’s own Bep coded an excellent utility that works perfectly in an rsync-like way, to get your static files up to S3. https://github.com/bep/s3deploy I’ve recently moved my private email to host on Mailfence which has good PGP support, and so far, they’ve been very clear and straight with what they can and cannot do. The support has been excellent. Their service also includes calendar, contacts and a file store, so that you can move away from something like Gmail. When I researched it, ProtonMail needs a helper app on the desktop, to allow you to use IMAP apparently, and this helper supports only certain mailers. I dropped them from consideration when I heard that, because I was set on using Mailmate and unwilling to spend the time to test. A lot of the email services in Europe make the point about their being non-US and therefore less subject to the possibility of invasive monitoring. They all support S/MIME or PGP in their browser apps, which is a nice convenience to be able to encrypt if you’re away from your main mailer. But, to me the main point is not the availability of PGP in their apps but rather their businesses’ locations. I can use PGP in Mailmate and in Canary on iOS, without regard to service. I would be wary of Fastmail and linked services, given what’s happening vis-à-vis privacy in Australia. Re mailbox size, well, you’re always going to hit a limit and keep having to pay more (after all, private mail providers are businesses which are not benefiting from your attention to their ads), so I would recommend a regiment of offloading your old emails to disk, via something like EagleFiler. Some kind soul even made a bundle in MM for it. You don’t mention the time unit for your price range but I can say: * Mailfence is ~ USD 3-4 per month * Webfaction has been ~ USD 10 per month * Static site on A3 is honestly negligible if low traffic and low file volume (but, it ain’t apache so you have to get used to some things) Re Netlify, it is indeed slick & tempting, but the free level requires payment for add-ons, such as the one that allows password protection. If you want that sort of thing included by default, it jumps to the "Team Pro" level (smallest level) @ USD 45/mo. Just some food for thought. -- Rick Cogley M: +81-90-9959-5452 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non MM related question about email hosting and web hosting
On 5 Jan 2019, at 9:57, Bharath M Palavalli wrote: - Due to logistical reasons I cannot self-host a box at home. Also, I would like to host my email and the static website with two different providers as a failsafe. Another option, with its own advantages and disadvantages, would be to contract for virtual machine / cloud service from a provider with suitable Internet connectivity (which should be almost all of them). You can have a virtual Linux (or other OS) box on which you run a web server, IMAP server, and SMTP server of your choice, configured however you like. The advantage is that you would be completely in control, able to operate as you wish. The disadvantage is that you are completely in control, responsible for configuring the servers. But most Linux boxes come with or have easy package installers for several popular servers, and recipes for various configurations are widely published. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non MM related question about email hosting and web hosting
Dear John and Ian, Thank you for your responses. I am tending towards Postbox.com for now for email. I hadn’t looked at Netlify, but it seems to be an interesting choice too! -- Thank you, Bharath www.bharathpalavalli.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Identities selection
On 6 Jan 2019, at 11:32, Randall Gellens wrote: On 27 Dec 2018, at 16:26, Randall Gellens wrote: I could have sworn that there used to be a pop-up on the compose panel, among the headers, to select an identity or customize it. I don't see it there now. There is a menu option Format -> Show Identities but I thought there was an easier way to access via the headers in the compose window. The Show Identities list only includes a few of the various identities that MailMate used to construct using my address patterns. Also, MailMate used to change the identity (visible in the Bcc header field of the composition window) when I entered/changed the To address, using the identity I always send to and receive from that recipient. This was extremely helpful. MailMate no longer does this. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Identities selection
On 27 Dec 2018, at 16:26, Randall Gellens wrote: I could have sworn that there used to be a pop-up on the compose panel, among the headers, to select an identity or customize it. I don't see it there now. There is a menu option Format -> Show Identities but I thought there was an easier way to access via the headers in the compose window. The Show Identities list only includes a few of the various identities that MailMate used to construct using my address patterns. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Identities selection
On 31 Dec 2018, at 18:04, leo wrote: On 1 Jan 2019, at 3:18, Randall Gellens wrote: I do not have "From" in the list to click. That’s strange. I definitely have “From” in that list. Maybe it is a version issue - I am on Version 1.12.3 (5579). I'm running the same version. I know this used to work. I reckon this problem might be one for Benny... I think so. On 31 Dec 2018, at 22:26, David Green wrote: On 31 Dec 2018, at 20:04, leo wrote: On 1 Jan 2019, at 3:18, Randall Gellens wrote: I do not have "From" in the list to click. That’s strange. I definitely have “From” in that list. Maybe it is a version issue - I am on Version 1.12.3 (5579). I reckon this problem might be one for Benny... I also have a From. Do you (Randall) have more than one mail account or just aliases for one account? (I have two accounts plus aliases.) I have multiple accounts (each with its own set of servers), and for my main account I have multiple configured email addresses, as well as address patterns. This all worked well until a recent update. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] From Box doesn't give me other email options
I solved it by reinstalling MM. And then I added ALL 10 of my addresses by hand. Did find myself wondering if I could be using the address pattern recognition instead.. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 5 Jan 2019, at 20:08, Randall Gellens wrote: On 5 Jan 2019, at 7:19, Annamarie pluhar wrote: Hi Just moved MM to my new MacBook Pro and upgraded to Mojave. As instructed a month ago or so, I simply copied over all my ‘plists’. Aside from Apple and Google insistence that I have an app-specific password all seemed good. BUT.. I can no longer select which email address I will be sending from. I have Multiple (don’t ask!) email addresses but that the drop down gives me only gmail. HELP! How do I fix this? (Yes Benny this is a resend, I removed the screenshot which was making the message too big. Thanks Annamarie I noticed this, too, and sent a message on December 27th (subject "Identities selection") but no resolution. There is a menu item Format -> Show Identities, but selecting one that way doesn't seem to actually change anything (e.g., the Bcc header field is not updated). However, editing the Bcc header field does seem to work, but must be done manually rather than by selecting an identity. --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Second attachments folder
Hello, I’ve been working with MailMate for almost a year now… and yesterday, I saw something I wasn’t aware of before. *blush* In MailMate’s preferences I’ve set the "Default Downloads Folder" to ~/Attachments-MailMate/ And yesterday, I saw that there’s *another* folder which contained almost all the attachments I’ve received, namely ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Attachments I searched the manual for this, but if it’s explained somewhere, I didn’t find it. So I tested a bit and my conclusion are: – The attachments are saved to the folder in the Library when you hit the "QuickLook" button in the message to display a attachment. – They are deleted again from this folder when you delete the message that contained the attachment. Are the conclusions correct? Are there any other circumstances under which the attachments get deleted from the folder in the Library? Can it have any negative side effects if I deleted files from that folder manually? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not complaining about anything, I just like to understand what’s going on on my harddisk. ;-) Moreover, since the attachments are stored in the message (.eml) file anyway, I don’t see why they should take up space on my disk another time, so from time to time I might remove them from the Library IF this doesn’t cause any trouble and of they aren’t purged from that folder automatically at some point anyway (i.e. even if I don’t delete the message itself). I’m working with MailMate 1.12.3 (5579) on El Capitan. Kind regards, Tobias ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
