Re: [MlMt] newbie question about folders
On 28 Jan 2020, at 8:26, Jo wrote: Hi Alexandre, No, I don’t think this is what I want - this seems to make a bunch of folders within the mailbox, one for each sender. While that can be useful, that’s not what I’m looking for. I would like to say ’anything sent from someone in Group A on my contact list goes into this mailbox.’ If you want to move anything you'll need to set up rules. It's a pity this isn't as easy to do as setting up smart mailboxes, which is based on a search (or maybe it is and I just haven't figured it out!), but you can use an existing e-mail to get some help setting up the criteria for an action. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] newbie question about folders
Hi Alexandre, No, I don’t think this is what I want - this seems to make a bunch of folders within the mailbox, one for each sender. While that can be useful, that’s not what I’m looking for. I would like to say ’anything sent from someone in Group A on my contact list goes into this mailbox.’ Has Powermail... the good old days ! :) Check the "sub mailbox" feature of the smart mailboxes - I believe this is what you are looking for. Regards On 27 Jan 2020, at 21:16, Jo wrote: Hi, Just switched over to MailMate from PowerMail. I’ve been hanging onto PM for a very long time, but it seems it’s not gonna work with the next OS upgrade, so here I am. There is a lot here that’s very similar and some new stuff that I like better, but I’m having trouble with sorting my incoming mail. 2 questions: I was able to sort by who the mail was FROM, by creating groups in my address book in PM. Is there a way to do that? Rather than going thru and adding each individual to the filters within a smart mailbox? Also, what if I just want to save some emails by physically moving them into a folder? I’m guessing that’s something with ‘archives’ but I can’t seem to figure out how to make this happen. What I’d like it not to accidentally delete them when I am in the basic ‘inbox’ somewhere. In PM, if I put something in a folder, that’s the only place it was. Here it seems to be a ‘copy.’ OK, I know it’s not a copy, more like an alias, I guess? But whatever, I don’t want to see it elsewhere, because I might accidentally hit delete. Does that make sense? TIA Jo €º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ "Therapy is extremely expensive... ..Popping bubble wrap is radically cheap" Jimmy Buffett ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate A. Takacs Augicom SA +41 (22) 301 16 00 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Jo €º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ "Therapy is extremely expensive... ..Popping bubble wrap is radically cheap" Jimmy Buffett ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] newbie question about folders
Has Powermail... the good old days ! :) Check the "sub mailbox" feature of the smart mailboxes - I believe this is what you are looking for. Regards On 27 Jan 2020, at 21:16, Jo wrote: Hi, Just switched over to MailMate from PowerMail. I’ve been hanging onto PM for a very long time, but it seems it’s not gonna work with the next OS upgrade, so here I am. There is a lot here that’s very similar and some new stuff that I like better, but I’m having trouble with sorting my incoming mail. 2 questions: I was able to sort by who the mail was FROM, by creating groups in my address book in PM. Is there a way to do that? Rather than going thru and adding each individual to the filters within a smart mailbox? Also, what if I just want to save some emails by physically moving them into a folder? I’m guessing that’s something with ‘archives’ but I can’t seem to figure out how to make this happen. What I’d like it not to accidentally delete them when I am in the basic ‘inbox’ somewhere. In PM, if I put something in a folder, that’s the only place it was. Here it seems to be a ‘copy.’ OK, I know it’s not a copy, more like an alias, I guess? But whatever, I don’t want to see it elsewhere, because I might accidentally hit delete. Does that make sense? TIA Jo €º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ "Therapy is extremely expensive... ..Popping bubble wrap is radically cheap" Jimmy Buffett ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate A. Takacs Augicom SA +41 (22) 301 16 00 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] newbie question about folders
Hi, Just switched over to MailMate from PowerMail. I’ve been hanging onto PM for a very long time, but it seems it’s not gonna work with the next OS upgrade, so here I am. There is a lot here that’s very similar and some new stuff that I like better, but I’m having trouble with sorting my incoming mail. 2 questions: I was able to sort by who the mail was FROM, by creating groups in my address book in PM. Is there a way to do that? Rather than going thru and adding each individual to the filters within a smart mailbox? Also, what if I just want to save some emails by physically moving them into a folder? I’m guessing that’s something with ‘archives’ but I can’t seem to figure out how to make this happen. What I’d like it not to accidentally delete them when I am in the basic ‘inbox’ somewhere. In PM, if I put something in a folder, that’s the only place it was. Here it seems to be a ‘copy.’ OK, I know it’s not a copy, more like an alias, I guess? But whatever, I don’t want to see it elsewhere, because I might accidentally hit delete. Does that make sense? TIA Jo €º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ "Therapy is extremely expensive... ..Popping bubble wrap is radically cheap" Jimmy Buffett ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"
On 27 Jan 2020, at 12:20, Randy Bush wrote: >> a forward is not the same as a reply. I too would prefer that >> forwarded messages didn’t quote the forwarded message - or change it >> in any way. > > you are showing your age. sad to admit, i too am old. another old > skool thing i miss: bounce with Resent-: headers. That's "Redirect" in MailMate. Works like a charm. I use it quite often. pr -- Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"
Redirect is different than forward. Redirect has the original author's email address in the From field. Forward has yours. Redirect is when you want to have someone else reply to the message and leave the original completely intact. Forward is when you want someone to see the message, and possibly add some of your own text at the beginning. "Forward as attachment" is a forward in that you can add your own text at the beginning, but it leaves the original message without changes. With a regular "Forward", you can do some editing of the original, but in MailMate's case, it puts the quotes in front of the lines. I'm not a big fan of that. I mostly use "Forward as attachment". pr On 27 Jan 2020, at 10:39, Ian Petersen wrote: Steve, Hmmm... I'm not seeing that behavior unless the message I'm redirecting already contains quotes. Yes you’re right, sorry. I’ll try to remember to redirect rather than forward then … Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"
> a forward is not the same as a reply. I too would prefer that > forwarded messages didn’t quote the forwarded message - or change it > in any way. you are showing your age. sad to admit, i too am old. another old skool thing i miss: bounce with Resent-: headers. randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"
You have three options with MailMate. Forward as Attachment creates a new message with the forwarded message in a read-only wrapper. You can insert your own comments and signature outside the wrapper. This is the option I prefer when it’s desirable to preserve the formatting of the original message. As noted, Redirect will resend the original directly, the only thing you can change is the recipient list. A third option is Edit as New Message… which creates a new message exactly like the original with the option to edit the contents before sending (assuming it’s in a form MailMate can edit). On 27 Jan 2020, at 11:34, Ian Petersen wrote: Steve, That's a redirect. I have to admit I’ve never heard of a redirect before. But choosing ‘redirect’ in Mailmate’s menu seems to also add quotes to the ‘redirected’ message. So that doesn’t really help … Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Glenn P. Parker glenn.par...@comcast.net ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"
Steve, Hmmm... I'm not seeing that behavior unless the message I'm redirecting already contains quotes. Yes you’re right, sorry. I’ll try to remember to redirect rather than forward then … Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"
Hmmm... I'm not seeing that behavior unless the message I'm redirecting already contains quotes. -- Steve Mayer smaye...@me.com On 27 Jan 2020, at 8:34, Ian Petersen wrote: Steve, That's a redirect. I have to admit I’ve never heard of a redirect before. But choosing ‘redirect’ in Mailmate’s menu seems to also add quotes to the ‘redirected’ message. So that doesn’t really help … Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"
Steve, That's a redirect. I have to admit I’ve never heard of a redirect before. But choosing ‘redirect’ in Mailmate’s menu seems to also add quotes to the ‘redirected’ message. So that doesn’t really help … Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"
That's a redirect. -- Steve Mayer smaye...@me.com On 27 Jan 2020, at 8:25, Ian Petersen wrote: Charlie, E-mails have historically used quoting and indentation to provide context when replying to e-mails. Yes, but a forward is not the same as a reply. I too would prefer that forwarded messages didn’t quote the forwarded message - or change it in any way. Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"
Charlie, E-mails have historically used quoting and indentation to provide context when replying to e-mails. Yes, but a forward is not the same as a reply. I too would prefer that forwarded messages didn’t quote the forwarded message - or change it in any way. Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Smart Mailbox for all emails with a size greater than x?
OK. I'm now using cli tools to do most of the lifting, incl search, by accessing all the EMLs directly. Now I just need to figure out: - How to get the Tags assigned to the individual EML, I'm building a fzf-based search ncurses environment for working with MailMate email - How to have MailMate use its smartness and only return "only unquoted text" of a message to me, so I can create my own "iMessage-like" interface for doing email - How to assign "cmd+backspace" to completely delete a mail without moving to trash, i've done the remap, but half of the time MailMate crashes after deleting the email. If it doesn't crash, the next (or previous) email in the list is not selected/focussed, so on arrow down or up focus moves to the item on the top of the list. Which is annoying when you want to move down the list and delete or trash email quickly Keep up the great work. /storm On 27 Jan 2020, at 14:29, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 27 Jan 2020, at 3:14, leo wrote: > >> _I asked this before, but I didn’t see any reply, so maybe the mail didn’t >> get through. So here you go again:_ > > I still have a huge backlog of unanswered emails to the list. In other words, > I'm most likely to be blamed for the lack of a reply. > >> How can I create a Smart Mailbox for all emails with size > x? (In my >> particular case is x = 50 MB) > > You cannot (easily). > >> I tried the `Size*` header, but it does not offer a numerical operator when >> added as condition… > > Yes, such an operator does not exist. > >> Then I tried the `Size*` header `Formatted` but still I found only string >> comparison. So I was able to get a condition for all emails > 1MB (by >> testing for string contains `MiB`) but not for > 50 MB. > > Yes, you'll need hacks like that for now. Very few headers are numeric (size > and spam scores) and I simply never implemented numeric comparisons (but > numeric message ordering does work). The only general workaround would be to > create a bundle command which could use the virtual #size header to do the > comparison and move itself, but this is probably overkill (too much work for > what should be much simpler). > > -- > Benny > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate smime.p7s Description: S/MIME digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rename attachment?
On 23 Jan 2020, at 11:25, Charlie Clark wrote: > I'd be tempted to use some kind of AppleScript action for this or just move > the files to temporary folder to be able to rename them in peace. Hmm… well, if I would try to use Hammerspoon for this. But it’s a lot of stuff for just renaming an attachment… -- Robert M. Münch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rename attachment?
On 23 Jan 2020, at 11:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > Sorry, it's not currently possible. You'll have to save the screenshot and > rename the file first. Ok… > The new message view (and composer view) I'm working on will also include new > handling of attachments. This will make it much easier for me to add renaming > of attachments. If I should forget to add that then you are welcome to remind > me :) Will do :-) -- Robert M. Münch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to disable "do you want to save..." dialog for Drafts
On 24 Jan 2020, at 17:11, Haakon Storm Heen wrote: Whenever I want to reboot - initiated remotely via hass.io or via keyboard - `Mailmate` is blocking because I always have a *lot* of "unsaved" drafts going. I have to confirm on every one. This is annoying. If I understand correctly, you want an option to always save without asking (when quitting MailMate). I think that should be fairly easy to add and I might even prefer it myself due my frequent run/compose/quit cycles during development :) Let's say this works in the next update: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmAlwaysSaveDraftsOnQuit -bool YES (Ideally, MailMate would bring the message back in the unsaved changes state, but that's much harder to do.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Copy or drag 'n drop an attachment from one Compose window to another Compose window?
On 27 Jan 2020, at 3:20, leo wrote: How can I copy or drag 'n drop an attachment from one Compose window to another Compose window? You cannot do that except if it's a non-inlined attachment in which case the preview (if enabled) allows you to drag the file icon (if I remember correctly). In any case, the message view and the composer are currently undergoing major changes. The new one should make it much easier (and hopefully intuitive) to drag attachments between any two windows. If I should forget to implement it then let me know. It should be easy to add. To be clear: I have the attachment to copy *not* in a window of a sent email , but in a window composing a new email. (A Compose window is what you get when you use MailMate’s share extension from another application.) This should also work with the new composer. I've got *no time frame* on that, but it continues to be my main priority. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Smart Mailbox for all emails with a size greater than x?
On 27 Jan 2020, at 3:14, leo wrote: _I asked this before, but I didn’t see any reply, so maybe the mail didn’t get through. So here you go again:_ I still have a huge backlog of unanswered emails to the list. In other words, I'm most likely to be blamed for the lack of a reply. How can I create a Smart Mailbox for all emails with size > x? (In my particular case is x = 50 MB) You cannot (easily). I tried the `Size*` header, but it does not offer a numerical operator when added as condition… Yes, such an operator does not exist. Then I tried the `Size*` header `Formatted` but still I found only string comparison. So I was able to get a condition for all emails > 1MB (by testing for string contains `MiB`) but not for > 50 MB. Yes, you'll need hacks like that for now. Very few headers are numeric (size and spam scores) and I simply never implemented numeric comparisons (but numeric message ordering does work). The only general workaround would be to create a bundle command which could use the virtual #size header to do the comparison and move itself, but this is probably overkill (too much work for what should be much simpler). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] QUESTION: How to access beta builds
On 25 Jan 2020, at 18:41, Jenna Jonteaux via mailmate wrote: I have followed instructions to tick under Preferences, Software Updates, watch for Beta Builds, but none have come my way as of yet. Is there another resource where I might directly download most current beta release? Sorry about the confusion. In theory, you can use the preferences, but in practice I almost never release beta builds. Instead, you have to hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane. I usually refer to these releases as “test” builds. The reason for this is that most people rely heavily on email working for them and a beta-update might happen at an inconvenient time and they do, some times, include serious bugs. Even if a serious bug is fixed within a few hours then a lot of users are going to be affected. Therefore, I prefer that users explicitly fetch test releases, because then fewer people are affected and they are more likely to have time to deal with any unexpected issues (which I appreaciate very much). I hope that clears it up a bit :-) When something goes wrong, older releases can be found here: http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] removing forwarding symbol ">"
On 26 Jan 2020, at 20:42, Ken Pope wrote: When I forward a message, there is a vertical row of the forwarding symbol “>” along the left margin. E-mails have historically used quoting and indentation to provide context when replying to e-mails. So, it's clear in this e-mail that I'm replying to something you said. Then Microsoft made top-posting the default… so we all had to go back to reading e-mail threads in reverse order. :-/ ;-) Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
