Re: [MlMt] Full-Screen mode when Composing Email (either new or reply)
Hello, If you want to do this with the keyboard, you could try Keyboard Maestro. I’m sure there are other applications as well with this functionality. With regards, Angelo Machils On 5 Feb 2020, at 5:31, TJ Luoma wrote: Well, shuck my corn. I've never used full-screen and split screen in macOS before, and totally forgot about the latter. Wish there was a way to do it with just the keyboard… it's awkward for me to do it with the touchpad… but it's better than nothing. (There's a "Tile Window to Left Side of Screen" or Right Side which is not for full-screen/split screen, but they _could_ do something similar. Maybe someday.) Thanks Bill and Guillaume! Tj On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:40 PM Bill Cole wrote: OR, if you are already in full-screen (so the reply opens as a new tab,) you can drag the tab to the top of the display and drop it on the MailMate screen, which will split. On 4 Feb 2020, at 21:14, Guillaume Barrette wrote: Dear Tj, Actually, macOS has a split view on full screen (if you are on El Capitan or above). To do what you want, I would do: 1. Open the message that you want to reply in a new window: File > Open Message [CMD+O] 2. Reply to this message: Message > Reply… (or Forward, Redirect…) 3. Now, using your cursor, click on the green circle without releasing (hold click) for about a second. Then you will see a blue rectangle appearing behind that divides the screen in 2. Move your window to the side of the screen that you want it to appear. This would push your window in full screen but taking half of the screen space. 4. Then, on the other side, you will see multiple windows. Select the window that corresponds to your open message. This will push it in full screen to this side, so you will have both side by side. You can see [here](https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204948) for an overview of the feature from Apple. I'm on Mojave, I think on Catalina a little popup will appear instead of the blue rectangle to place the window, but they do basically the same thing. Hope this help! Best, -- Guillaume On 4 Feb 2020, at 19:13, TJ Luoma wrote: I have been using full-screen mode more lately on my MacBook Air, which led me to wonder if it is possible do something in Mailmate which I would very much like, but I'm not sure if it can be done (in any practical sense of the word). When I am replying to an email, I like to have the compose window on the right half of the screen, and the original message on the left half of the screen. That way I can easily refer to things as needed. Of course in full-screen mode, I get the compose window in full-screen, and I'm not sure there's any practical way around that. As far as I know, macOS does not have the same kind of "split screen" that iPads have. But I thought I'd mention it, just in case there _is_ a way to do that which I had not discovered. Thanks! Tj ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not For Hire (currently) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Full-Screen mode when Composing Email (either new or reply)
Well, shuck my corn. I've never used full-screen and split screen in macOS before, and totally forgot about the latter. Wish there was a way to do it with just the keyboard… it's awkward for me to do it with the touchpad… but it's better than nothing. (There's a "Tile Window to Left Side of Screen" or Right Side which is not for full-screen/split screen, but they _could_ do something similar. Maybe someday.) Thanks Bill and Guillaume! Tj On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:40 PM Bill Cole wrote: > > OR, if you are already in full-screen (so the reply opens as a new > tab,) you can drag the tab to the top of the display and drop it on the > MailMate screen, which will split. > > On 4 Feb 2020, at 21:14, Guillaume Barrette wrote: > > > Dear Tj, > > > >Actually, macOS has a split view on full screen (if you are on > > El Capitan or above). To do what you want, I would do: > > > > 1. Open the message that you want to reply in a new window: File > > > Open Message [CMD+O] > > > > 2. Reply to this message: Message > Reply… (or Forward, Redirect…) > > > > 3. Now, using your cursor, click on the green circle without releasing > > (hold click) for about a second. Then you will see a blue rectangle > > appearing behind that divides the screen in 2. Move your window to the > > side of the screen that you want it to appear. This would push your > > window in full screen but taking half of the screen space. > > > > 4. Then, on the other side, you will see multiple windows. Select the > > window that corresponds to your open message. This will push it in > > full screen to this side, so you will have both side by side. > > > > You can see [here](https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204948) for an > > overview of the feature from Apple. > > > > I'm on Mojave, I think on Catalina a little popup will appear instead > > of the blue rectangle to place the window, but they do basically the > > same thing. > > > > Hope this help! > > > > Best, > > > > -- > > Guillaume > > > > On 4 Feb 2020, at 19:13, TJ Luoma wrote: > > > >> I have been using full-screen mode more lately on my MacBook Air, > >> which led me to wonder if it is possible do something in Mailmate > >> which I would very much like, but I'm not sure if it can be done (in > >> any practical sense of the word). > >> > >> When I am replying to an email, I like to have the compose window on > >> the right half of the screen, and the original message on the left > >> half of the screen. That way I can easily refer to things as needed. > >> > >> Of course in full-screen mode, I get the compose window in > >> full-screen, and I'm not sure there's any practical way around that. > >> As far as I know, macOS does not have the same kind of "split screen" > >> that iPads have. > >> > >> But I thought I'd mention it, just in case there _is_ a way to do > >> that > >> which I had not discovered. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Tj > >> ___ > >> mailmate mailing list > >> mailmate@lists.freron.com > >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > ___ > > mailmate mailing list > > mailmate@lists.freron.com > > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > > -- > Bill Cole > b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org > (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) > Not For Hire (currently) > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Full-Screen mode when Composing Email (either new or reply)
OR, if you are already in full-screen (so the reply opens as a new tab,) you can drag the tab to the top of the display and drop it on the MailMate screen, which will split. On 4 Feb 2020, at 21:14, Guillaume Barrette wrote: Dear Tj, Actually, macOS has a split view on full screen (if you are on El Capitan or above). To do what you want, I would do: 1. Open the message that you want to reply in a new window: File > Open Message [CMD+O] 2. Reply to this message: Message > Reply… (or Forward, Redirect…) 3. Now, using your cursor, click on the green circle without releasing (hold click) for about a second. Then you will see a blue rectangle appearing behind that divides the screen in 2. Move your window to the side of the screen that you want it to appear. This would push your window in full screen but taking half of the screen space. 4. Then, on the other side, you will see multiple windows. Select the window that corresponds to your open message. This will push it in full screen to this side, so you will have both side by side. You can see [here](https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204948) for an overview of the feature from Apple. I'm on Mojave, I think on Catalina a little popup will appear instead of the blue rectangle to place the window, but they do basically the same thing. Hope this help! Best, -- Guillaume On 4 Feb 2020, at 19:13, TJ Luoma wrote: I have been using full-screen mode more lately on my MacBook Air, which led me to wonder if it is possible do something in Mailmate which I would very much like, but I'm not sure if it can be done (in any practical sense of the word). When I am replying to an email, I like to have the compose window on the right half of the screen, and the original message on the left half of the screen. That way I can easily refer to things as needed. Of course in full-screen mode, I get the compose window in full-screen, and I'm not sure there's any practical way around that. As far as I know, macOS does not have the same kind of "split screen" that iPads have. But I thought I'd mention it, just in case there _is_ a way to do that which I had not discovered. Thanks! Tj ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not For Hire (currently) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Full-Screen mode when Composing Email (either new or reply)
Dear Tj, Actually, macOS has a split view on full screen (if you are on El Capitan or above). To do what you want, I would do: 1. Open the message that you want to reply in a new window: File > Open Message [CMD+O] 2. Reply to this message: Message > Reply… (or Forward, Redirect…) 3. Now, using your cursor, click on the green circle without releasing (hold click) for about a second. Then you will see a blue rectangle appearing behind that divides the screen in 2. Move your window to the side of the screen that you want it to appear. This would push your window in full screen but taking half of the screen space. 4. Then, on the other side, you will see multiple windows. Select the window that corresponds to your open message. This will push it in full screen to this side, so you will have both side by side. You can see [here](https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204948) for an overview of the feature from Apple. I'm on Mojave, I think on Catalina a little popup will appear instead of the blue rectangle to place the window, but they do basically the same thing. Hope this help! Best, -- Guillaume On 4 Feb 2020, at 19:13, TJ Luoma wrote: I have been using full-screen mode more lately on my MacBook Air, which led me to wonder if it is possible do something in Mailmate which I would very much like, but I'm not sure if it can be done (in any practical sense of the word). When I am replying to an email, I like to have the compose window on the right half of the screen, and the original message on the left half of the screen. That way I can easily refer to things as needed. Of course in full-screen mode, I get the compose window in full-screen, and I'm not sure there's any practical way around that. As far as I know, macOS does not have the same kind of "split screen" that iPads have. But I thought I'd mention it, just in case there _is_ a way to do that which I had not discovered. Thanks! Tj ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Full-Screen mode when Composing Email (either new or reply)
I have been using full-screen mode more lately on my MacBook Air, which led me to wonder if it is possible do something in Mailmate which I would very much like, but I'm not sure if it can be done (in any practical sense of the word). When I am replying to an email, I like to have the compose window on the right half of the screen, and the original message on the left half of the screen. That way I can easily refer to things as needed. Of course in full-screen mode, I get the compose window in full-screen, and I'm not sure there's any practical way around that. As far as I know, macOS does not have the same kind of "split screen" that iPads have. But I thought I'd mention it, just in case there _is_ a way to do that which I had not discovered. Thanks! Tj ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rules dialog popping up unexpectedly
On 4 Feb 2020, at 15:01, Ben Hyde wrote: On 1 Feb 2020, at 10:39, Eric Sharakan wrote: On 1 Feb 2020, at 9:05, Charlie Clark wrote: On 31 Jan 2020, at 20:16, Eric Sharakan wrote: Hi, this one is a minor annoyance, but it happens to me multiple times a day. Often, when the focus is on another App, I'll click once in the MM window to make it active, and then click again to select a mailbox. If those two clicks happen quickly enough (under a second apart or so), the Rules composition window pops up, and I have to explicitly dismiss it. Ideally, the click to make MM active would not be "counted" to determine whether a double-click action on a mailbox has occurred. Is there any way to control this? Or some way to prevent all these unwanted Rules window activations? I get something similar when clicking on messages, the search function gets activated. While I was using my graphics tablet I thought this was due to inadvertent double-clicks, but as I still get it with a mouse I think this is a MailMate bug and probably be filed as such. Charlie I fear this is actually a system-wide MacOS thing, as I see similar behavior in other Apps. Still, I hope Benny can do something in MM to help. -Eric I wonder if that might not be related to the system preferences -> mouse -> double click speed. I vaguely moving that toward the faster end of the spectrum at some point a few years ago. - ben Yes, setting the double-click speed will certainly impact this. But the real issue is that the click that gives a new App focus should not be considered as starting a double-click, no matter how fast or slow the subsequent click. -Eric ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rules dialog popping up unexpectedly
On 1 Feb 2020, at 10:39, Eric Sharakan wrote: On 1 Feb 2020, at 9:05, Charlie Clark wrote: On 31 Jan 2020, at 20:16, Eric Sharakan wrote: Hi, this one is a minor annoyance, but it happens to me multiple times a day. Often, when the focus is on another App, I'll click once in the MM window to make it active, and then click again to select a mailbox. If those two clicks happen quickly enough (under a second apart or so), the Rules composition window pops up, and I have to explicitly dismiss it. Ideally, the click to make MM active would not be "counted" to determine whether a double-click action on a mailbox has occurred. Is there any way to control this? Or some way to prevent all these unwanted Rules window activations? I get something similar when clicking on messages, the search function gets activated. While I was using my graphics tablet I thought this was due to inadvertent double-clicks, but as I still get it with a mouse I think this is a MailMate bug and probably be filed as such. Charlie I fear this is actually a system-wide MacOS thing, as I see similar behavior in other Apps. Still, I hope Benny can do something in MM to help. -Eric I wonder if that might not be related to the system preferences -> mouse -> double click speed. I vaguely moving that toward the faster end of the spectrum at some point a few years ago. - ben___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more
On 4 Feb 2020, at 15:25, Charlie Clark wrote: On 4 Feb 2020, at 15:02, Robert Brenstein wrote: 5676 is a bit more stable under El Capitan than earlier version but still crashes randomly, more even than we care for, and it crashes even if user does nothing on the computer. Okay, then it's best to stick with the last stable release and Benny is quite clear on this. Some of us are prepared to put up with the odd crash to try new things out, but if I had more than a couple of crashes a week, I'd go back to stable as well. Charlie I’d like to go to the last stable release but unfortunately that version fails to print emails :-( We may go back to 5657 which seemed least crash-prone of all the betas I tried. Robert___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more
Robert, In the Preferences Under the SoftwareUpdate tab Click [Check No] while holding the alt/option key This will load the latest “beta-beta” at this moment Version 1.13.1 build 5676 Which is very stable to us. Regards, Marc On 3 Feb 2020, at 21:57, Robert Brenstein wrote: Version 1.13.1 (5671) keeps crashing more and more for my wife for no apparent reason, that is without any discernible pattern. Anybody else seeing that? I stay with version 5657 because newer versions were crashing on me too much. I suspect that Benny’s making major code changes is the reason, but I wonder whether this is a generic issue or something specific to our computers (we run El Capitan for example). Robert___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more
On 2020-02-04 06:25:34 (-0800), Charlie Clark wrote: On 4 Feb 2020, at 15:02, Robert Brenstein wrote: 5676 is a bit more stable under El Capitan than earlier version but still crashes randomly, more even than we care for, and it crashes even if user does nothing on the computer. Okay, then it's best to stick with the last stable release and Benny is quite clear on this. Some of us are prepared to put up with the odd crash to try new things out, but if I had more than a couple of crashes a week, I'd go back to stable as well. I don't remember MailMate every crashing more than a few times per week... I generally follow the latest test releases and see maybe a crash per month or so. And this is with a silly number of mailboxes: several hundred, some with hundreds of thousands of messages. But most of my email is plain text mailing list traffic so maybe there's something about the specific kind of email you folks get. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Feature idea: Position cursor in the edit pane, > following clicks into the preview pane
On 4 Feb 2020, at 16:44, Chaim Kram wrote: +1. Maybe you can make the Preview window editable somehow? I'm not sure if it's possible or even desirable. I can imagine making it look more "like" a preview so you don't think get so confused so easily, as I agree this currently does look like an editable pane and do find myself clicking in it by accident. Maybe just changing the background slightly. But all bugs and feature requests have a better chance of getting noticed if filed using the bugtracker. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Feature idea: Position cursor in the edit pane, > following clicks into the preview pane
On 4 Feb 2020, at 16:03, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote: > From: leo > > Here an idea for a feature in the Composer window: > > **Position cursor in the edit pane following clicks into the preview > pane** > > The reason is: Sometimes when proof reading an email in the preview pane > I want to do a change and click instinctively into the preview pane to > edit, just to resiles that I cannot edit here. This is entirely ok, but > would’d it be nice if after that click the cursor in the edit pane > were just where I want it for the edit?... +1. Maybe you can make the Preview window editable somehow? -- Chaim Kram cha...@umich.edu ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more
On 4 Feb 2020, at 15:02, Robert Brenstein wrote: 5676 is a bit more stable under El Capitan than earlier version but still crashes randomly, more even than we care for, and it crashes even if user does nothing on the computer. Okay, then it's best to stick with the last stable release and Benny is quite clear on this. Some of us are prepared to put up with the odd crash to try new things out, but if I had more than a couple of crashes a week, I'd go back to stable as well. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more
On 4 Feb 2020, at 14:27, Charlie Clark wrote: On 3 Feb 2020, at 22:21, Eric Sharakan wrote: I've been having random crashes (usually when expunging mailboxes) with several prior versions of MM. The latest test version (5676) seems to have fixed them; it's been rock-solid for me. Same here. 5676 is much stabler on Mojave than previous betas. Charlie 5676 is a bit more stable under El Capitan than earlier version but still crashes randomly, more even than we care for, and it crashes even if user does nothing on the computer. Robert___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Version 1.13.1 (5671) crashing more and more
On 3 Feb 2020, at 22:21, Eric Sharakan wrote: I've been having random crashes (usually when expunging mailboxes) with several prior versions of MM. The latest test version (5676) seems to have fixed them; it's been rock-solid for me. Same here. 5676 is much stabler on Mojave than previous betas. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
