Re: [MlMt] Show images in new message view?

[Sherif Soliman]

I'm seeing this too in Version 1.13.1 (5710). There's a new message 
viewer, and my keybinding that used to download images/external sources 
doesn't work anymore. Likely a bug, or maybe the message viewer made it 
to the branch released to us by mistake.


Sherif


On 26 Aug 2020, at 17:14, Simon Kaplan wrote:


Hi all

Silly question here - I’ve switched the latest version w/new message 
view.  Pictures/images are now not downloaded at all, and the ‘show 
pictures’ button on emails seems to have vanished.


What am I doing wrong/what do I need to set so that I get my show 
pictures button back?


Thanks for your help,

Cheers
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Re: [MlMt] Moving from Apple Mail to Mailmate

[Eric Sharakan]

On 26 Aug 2020, at 13:42, Antonio Leding wrote:

Hello all — Thank you very much for your responses…the feedback is 
very helpful.  I also use C-Command’s SpamSieve and EagleFiler 
products as both are phenomenal at what they do.  Talking specifically 
about EagleFiler, I personally looked at several different methods and 
apps for email archiving — DevonThink, MailSteward, Evernote, local 
exports, and even a custom database — and for me, EF was the best 
all around option.


I must admit that while I have already setup a few accounts in MM, I 
had not yet noticed that in-app local message storage was not 
available (just hadn’t tried it yet) so thank you for educating me 
there.  With that in mind, does anyone know why this wasn’t 
implemented?  Was this intentional, too much work, etc?


This is an intentional design decision made by Benny.  Whenever a 
request has come up to add local storage, Benny has steadfastly said 
"no".


I'll let him expound on his thoughts regarding this.

-Eric

Also, is there sufficient user desire for implementing in-app local 
storage?  I admit that as I write,
this, I am forced to consider that maybe not having this feature is a 
blessing in disguise because it probably forces some of us to use a 
more reliable archival process and\or not keeping large amounts of 
mail on the server.


Again, thanks for your feedback and please feel free to keep it 
coming…





On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Eric Sharakan  
wrote:


On 26 Aug 2020, at 10:55, Philip Paeps wrote:

On 2020-08-26 06:20:56 (+0800), Antonio Leding wrote:

My core questions would be around performance (I have well over 150k 
messages across 12 email accounts), reliability, SpamSieve 
functionality, things you wish you’d known before migrating, etc.


I wouldn't worry about performance or reliability too much with only 
150,000 messages. There are people on this mailing list with millions 
of messages and MailMate "just copes". :) (I have just shy of 2 
million messages and I have one mailbox with just over 150,000 
messages in it. I know that I am not the biggest email hoarder here.)
As an FYI, I did check out the Mailmate Mailman archive but didn’t 
find a lot concerning migrating from Apple Mail…hence this message.


If I were to venture a guess ... I'd say it's pretty uneventful for 
most people. :)


These are some functional differences I encountered between MM and 
Apple Mail:


No POP3 support
No built-in spam filtering
No local, "on your Mac" mailboxes. Everything is stored on the 
server.

Composing rich emails is done with Markdown
For me, the first item was a non-issue. To address the second, I use 
SpamSieve (Apple Mail's junk filtering had really begun failing me 
anyway). For the third, I bought EagleFiler to archive older emails I 
had been storing locally with Apple Mail.


SpamSieve and EagleFiler are both excellent products from C-Command 
Software (https://c-command.com/  )


Finally, composing emails with Markdown took some getting used to but 
I now really like it. One of the (few) complaints I sometimes read 
about MM is that the Markdown processor used is a bit old and crufty, 
and missing some features.


All in all I'm an extremely happy MM customer, and simply can't 
imagine ever going back to Apple Mail.


-Eric

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Re: [MlMt] Moving from Apple Mail to Mailmate

[Steven M. Bellovin]

On 26 Aug 2020, at 20:07, Charlie Garrison wrote:


On 27 Aug 2020, at 3:42, Antonio Leding wrote:

I must admit that while I have already setup a few accounts in MM, I 
had not yet noticed that in-app local message storage was not 
available (just hadn’t tried it yet) so thank you for educating me 
there.  With that in mind, does anyone know why this wasn’t 
implemented?  Was this intentional, too much work, etc?  Also, is 
there sufficient user desire for implementing in-app local storage? 
 I admit that as I write, this, I am forced to consider that maybe 
not having this feature is a blessing in disguise because it probably 
forces some of us to use a more reliable archival process and\or not 
keeping large amounts of mail on the server.


The local -vs- server storage issue may need some clarification. 
MailMate doesn't have local __only__ storage. MailMate __does__ store 
a __copy__ of messages locally. So if you are offline, you still have 
access to all your messages. You can even move messages to different 
mailboxes; when MailMate reconnects to the IMAP server it will sync 
all the changes (both local and from server).


The "authoritative" storage is on the server, with "cache" storage 
locally. For me, that's best of both worlds.


To reduce the amount of server storage, like others on this list, I 
use both local Dovecot and archival outside MM.



One more thing. If some of your folders are primarily archival,
you can configure them for "Manual sync". In that case, Mailmate
does not download them from the IMAP server unless needed.


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[MlMt] Show images in new message view?

[Simon Kaplan]

Hi all

Silly question here - I’ve switched the latest version w/new message 
view.  Pictures/images are now not downloaded at all, and the ‘show 
pictures’ button on emails seems to have vanished.


What am I doing wrong/what do I need to set so that I get my show 
pictures button back?


Thanks for your help,

Cheers
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Re: [MlMt] Moving from Apple Mail to Mailmate

[Charlie Garrison]

On 27 Aug 2020, at 3:42, Antonio Leding wrote:

I must admit that while I have already setup a few accounts in MM, I 
had not yet noticed that in-app local message storage was not 
available (just hadn’t tried it yet) so thank you for educating me 
there.  With that in mind, does anyone know why this wasn’t 
implemented?  Was this intentional, too much work, etc?  Also, is 
there sufficient user desire for implementing in-app local storage? 
 I admit that as I write, this, I am forced to consider that maybe 
not having this feature is a blessing in disguise because it probably 
forces some of us to use a more reliable archival process and\or not 
keeping large amounts of mail on the server.


The local -vs- server storage issue may need some clarification. 
MailMate doesn't have local __only__ storage. MailMate __does__ store a 
__copy__ of messages locally. So if you are offline, you still have 
access to all your messages. You can even move messages to different 
mailboxes; when MailMate reconnects to the IMAP server it will sync all 
the changes (both local and from server).


The "authoritative" storage is on the server, with "cache" storage 
locally. For me, that's best of both worlds.


To reduce the amount of server storage, like others on this list, I use 
both local Dovecot and archival outside MM.


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Re: [MlMt] Moving from Apple Mail to Mailmate

[Antonio Leding]

On Aug 26, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Michael Nietzold  
wrote:
> 
> If you really need a local storage:
> 
>  - how about running a local imap server on your Mac?

I can see this as a desired option if one wants all of their mail on the local 
machine…but I have a different use-case…

I presume many users do the same thing I do which is that some or most of their 
mail is on the server and then some is stored locally.  I’m not arguing that 
one method is better than any other — I’m just stating how I happen to manage 
my email…


> 
> Von meinem iDingens gesendet...
>> Am 26.08.2020 um 19:42 schrieb Antonio Leding :
>> 
>> Hello all — Thank you very much for your responses…the feedback is very 
>> helpful.  I also use C-Command’s SpamSieve and EagleFiler products as both 
>> are phenomenal at what they do.  Talking specifically about EagleFiler, I 
>> personally looked at several different methods and apps for email archiving 
>> — DevonThink, MailSteward, Evernote, local exports, and even a custom 
>> database — and for me, EF was the best all around option.
>> 
>> I must admit that while I have already setup a few accounts in MM, I had not 
>> yet noticed that in-app local message storage was not available (just hadn’t 
>> tried it yet) so thank you for educating me there.  With that in mind, does 
>> anyone know why this wasn’t implemented?  Was this intentional, too much 
>> work, etc?  Also, is there sufficient user desire for implementing in-app 
>> local storage?  I admit that as I write, this, I am forced to consider that 
>> maybe not having this feature is a blessing in disguise because it probably 
>> forces some of us to use a more reliable archival process and\or not keeping 
>> large amounts of mail on the server.
>> 
>> Again, thanks for your feedback and please feel free to keep it coming…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Eric Sharakan >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 26 Aug 2020, at 10:55, Philip Paeps wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2020-08-26 06:20:56 (+0800), Antonio Leding wrote:
>>> 
>>> My core questions would be around performance (I have well over 150k 
>>> messages across 12 email accounts), reliability, SpamSieve functionality, 
>>> things you wish you’d known before migrating, etc.
>>> 
>>> I wouldn't worry about performance or reliability too much with only 
>>> 150,000 messages. There are people on this mailing list with millions of 
>>> messages and MailMate "just copes". :) (I have just shy of 2 million 
>>> messages and I have one mailbox with just over 150,000 messages in it. I 
>>> know that I am not the biggest email hoarder here.)
>>> As an FYI, I did check out the Mailmate Mailman archive but didn’t find a 
>>> lot concerning migrating from Apple Mail…hence this message.
>>> 
>>> If I were to venture a guess ... I'd say it's pretty uneventful for most 
>>> people. :)
>>> 
>>> These are some functional differences I encountered between MM and Apple 
>>> Mail:
>>> 
>>> No POP3 support
>>> No built-in spam filtering
>>> No local, "on your Mac" mailboxes. Everything is stored on the server.
>>> Composing rich emails is done with Markdown
>>> For me, the first item was a non-issue. To address the second, I use 
>>> SpamSieve (Apple Mail's junk filtering had really begun failing me anyway). 
>>> For the third, I bought EagleFiler to archive older emails I had been 
>>> storing locally with Apple Mail.
>>> 
>>> SpamSieve and EagleFiler are both excellent products from C-Command 
>>> Software (https://c-command.com/ )
>>> 
>>> Finally, composing emails with Markdown took some getting used to but I now 
>>> really like it. One of the (few) complaints I sometimes read about MM is 
>>> that the Markdown processor used is a bit old and crufty, and missing some 
>>> features.
>>> 
>>> All in all I'm an extremely happy MM customer, and simply can't imagine 
>>> ever going back to Apple Mail.
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> Philip
>>> 
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Re: [MlMt] Moving from Apple Mail to Mailmate

[Alex Abdo]

On 26 Aug 2020, at 16:24, Michael Nietzold wrote:


If you really need a local storage:

 - how about running a local imap server on your Mac?


This is what I do (dovecot), but as someone who isn’t as technically 
savvy as it seems many or most people on this list are, it was a bit of 
a learning curve. And every time I have to reinstall (new laptop, etc.), 
I cross my fingers and hope it works again, knowing that I’m not sure 
I could really debug any problems.


This is the guide I followed: 
https://xdeb.org/post/2014/03/07/running-dovecot-as-a-local-only-imap-server-on-os-x/


That said, dovecot has been working great. I do wonder whether it ends 
up wasting space by duplicating the mail stored on my laptop, because I 
assume that MailMate retrieves all of the emails from dovecot and 
creates another local cache?


One nice thing about having a local IMAP server, though, is that it 
frees you up to once again use multiple clients without worrying about 
which one has your locally stored emails. You can just point all of them 
to your local IMAP server.

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Re: [MlMt] Moving from Apple Mail to Mailmate

[Michael Nietzold]

If you really need a local storage:

 - how about running a local imap server on your Mac?

Von meinem iDingens gesendet...
>> Am 26.08.2020 um 19:42 schrieb Antonio Leding :
> Hello all — Thank you very much for your responses…the feedback is very 
> helpful.  I also use C-Command’s SpamSieve and EagleFiler products as both 
> are phenomenal at what they do.  Talking specifically about EagleFiler, I 
> personally looked at several different methods and apps for email archiving — 
> DevonThink, MailSteward, Evernote, local exports, and even a custom database 
> — and for me, EF was the best all around option.
> 
> I must admit that while I have already setup a few accounts in MM, I had not 
> yet noticed that in-app local message storage was not available (just hadn’t 
> tried it yet) so thank you for educating me there.  With that in mind, does 
> anyone know why this wasn’t implemented?  Was this intentional, too much 
> work, etc?  Also, is there sufficient user desire for implementing in-app 
> local storage?  I admit that as I write, this, I am forced to consider that 
> maybe not having this feature is a blessing in disguise because it probably 
> forces some of us to use a more reliable archival process and\or not keeping 
> large amounts of mail on the server.
> 
> Again, thanks for your feedback and please feel free to keep it coming…
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Eric Sharakan  wrote:
>> 
>> On 26 Aug 2020, at 10:55, Philip Paeps wrote:
>> 
>> On 2020-08-26 06:20:56 (+0800), Antonio Leding wrote:
>> 
>> My core questions would be around performance (I have well over 150k 
>> messages across 12 email accounts), reliability, SpamSieve functionality, 
>> things you wish you’d known before migrating, etc.
>> 
>> I wouldn't worry about performance or reliability too much with only 150,000 
>> messages. There are people on this mailing list with millions of messages 
>> and MailMate "just copes". :) (I have just shy of 2 million messages and I 
>> have one mailbox with just over 150,000 messages in it. I know that I am not 
>> the biggest email hoarder here.)
>> 
>> As an FYI, I did check out the Mailmate Mailman archive but didn’t find a 
>> lot concerning migrating from Apple Mail…hence this message.
>> 
>> If I were to venture a guess ... I'd say it's pretty uneventful for most 
>> people. :)
>> 
>> These are some functional differences I encountered between MM and Apple 
>> Mail:
>> 
>> No POP3 support
>> No built-in spam filtering
>> No local, "on your Mac" mailboxes. Everything is stored on the server.
>> Composing rich emails is done with Markdown
>> For me, the first item was a non-issue. To address the second, I use 
>> SpamSieve (Apple Mail's junk filtering had really begun failing me anyway). 
>> For the third, I bought EagleFiler to archive older emails I had been 
>> storing locally with Apple Mail.
>> 
>> SpamSieve and EagleFiler are both excellent products from C-Command Software 
>> (https://c-command.com/)
>> 
>> Finally, composing emails with Markdown took some getting used to but I now 
>> really like it. One of the (few) complaints I sometimes read about MM is 
>> that the Markdown processor used is a bit old and crufty, and missing some 
>> features.
>> 
>> All in all I'm an extremely happy MM customer, and simply can't imagine ever 
>> going back to Apple Mail.
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> Philip
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Senior Reality Engineer
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Re: [MlMt] When I right-click on an image and select "download image", where is the file downloaded?

[David Green]

On 26 Aug 2020, at 13:50, Ashley Creighton wrote:

They're not showing up in my "downloads" folder, though this is where 
all

other downloaded mail attachments go.

Right-clicking on an image from inside an email and selecting 
"Download
image" seems to do nothing, I can't find these files downloaded 
anywhere.


FWIW—I've changed no default settings

Any help is appreciated 


Hmmm, I don’t know (and could not see where when I tried figuring it 
out.  I have always dragged them on desktop.


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[MlMt] When I right-click on an image and select "download image", where is the file downloaded?

[Ashley Creighton]

They're not showing up in my "downloads" folder, though this is where all
other downloaded mail attachments go.

Right-clicking on an image from inside an email and selecting "Download
image" seems to do nothing, I can't find these files downloaded anywhere.

FWIW—I've changed no default settings

Any help is appreciated 

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Re: [MlMt] Moving from Apple Mail to Mailmate

[Antonio Leding]

Hello all — Thank you very much for your responses…the feedback is very 
helpful.  I also use C-Command’s SpamSieve and EagleFiler products as both are 
phenomenal at what they do.  Talking specifically about EagleFiler, I 
personally looked at several different methods and apps for email archiving — 
DevonThink, MailSteward, Evernote, local exports, and even a custom database — 
and for me, EF was the best all around option.

I must admit that while I have already setup a few accounts in MM, I had not 
yet noticed that in-app local message storage was not available (just hadn’t 
tried it yet) so thank you for educating me there.  With that in mind, does 
anyone know why this wasn’t implemented?  Was this intentional, too much work, 
etc?  Also, is there sufficient user desire for implementing in-app local 
storage?  I admit that as I write, this, I am forced to consider that maybe not 
having this feature is a blessing in disguise because it probably forces some 
of us to use a more reliable archival process and\or not keeping large amounts 
of mail on the server.

Again, thanks for your feedback and please feel free to keep it coming…




> On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Eric Sharakan  wrote:
> 
> On 26 Aug 2020, at 10:55, Philip Paeps wrote:
> 
> On 2020-08-26 06:20:56 (+0800), Antonio Leding wrote:
> 
> My core questions would be around performance (I have well over 150k messages 
> across 12 email accounts), reliability, SpamSieve functionality, things you 
> wish you’d known before migrating, etc.
> 
> I wouldn't worry about performance or reliability too much with only 150,000 
> messages. There are people on this mailing list with millions of messages and 
> MailMate "just copes". :) (I have just shy of 2 million messages and I have 
> one mailbox with just over 150,000 messages in it. I know that I am not the 
> biggest email hoarder here.)
> As an FYI, I did check out the Mailmate Mailman archive but didn’t find a lot 
> concerning migrating from Apple Mail…hence this message.
> 
> If I were to venture a guess ... I'd say it's pretty uneventful for most 
> people. :)
> 
> These are some functional differences I encountered between MM and Apple Mail:
> 
> No POP3 support
> No built-in spam filtering
> No local, "on your Mac" mailboxes. Everything is stored on the server.
> Composing rich emails is done with Markdown
> For me, the first item was a non-issue. To address the second, I use 
> SpamSieve (Apple Mail's junk filtering had really begun failing me anyway). 
> For the third, I bought EagleFiler to archive older emails I had been storing 
> locally with Apple Mail.
> 
> SpamSieve and EagleFiler are both excellent products from C-Command Software 
> (https://c-command.com/ )
> 
> Finally, composing emails with Markdown took some getting used to but I now 
> really like it. One of the (few) complaints I sometimes read about MM is that 
> the Markdown processor used is a bit old and crufty, and missing some 
> features.
> 
> All in all I'm an extremely happy MM customer, and simply can't imagine ever 
> going back to Apple Mail.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> Philip
> 
> -- 
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> Senior Reality Engineer
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Re: [MlMt] Moving from Apple Mail to Mailmate

[Eric Sharakan]

On 26 Aug 2020, at 10:55, Philip Paeps wrote:


On 2020-08-26 06:20:56 (+0800), Antonio Leding wrote:
My core questions would be around performance (I have well over 150k 
messages across 12 email accounts), reliability, SpamSieve 
functionality, things you wish you’d known before migrating, etc.


I wouldn't worry about performance or reliability too much with only 
150,000 messages.  There are people on this mailing list with millions 
of messages and MailMate "just copes". :) (I have just shy of 2 
million messages and I have one mailbox with just over 150,000 
messages in it.  I know that I am not the biggest email hoarder here.)


As an FYI, I did check out the Mailmate Mailman archive but didn’t 
find a lot concerning migrating from Apple Mail…hence this message.


If I were to venture a guess ... I'd say it's pretty uneventful for 
most people. :)


These are some functional differences I encountered between MM and Apple 
Mail:


- No POP3 support
- No built-in spam filtering
- No local, "on your Mac" mailboxes.  Everything is stored on the 
server.

- Composing rich emails is done with Markdown

For me, the first item was a non-issue.  To address the second, I use 
SpamSieve (Apple Mail's junk filtering had really begun failing me 
anyway).  For the third, I bought EagleFiler to archive older emails I 
had been storing locally with Apple Mail.


SpamSieve and EagleFiler are both excellent products from C-Command 
Software  (https://c-command.com/)


Finally, composing emails with Markdown took some getting used to but I 
now really like it.  One of the (few) complaints I sometimes read about 
MM is that the Markdown processor used is a bit old and crufty, and 
missing some features.


All in all I'm an extremely happy MM customer, and simply can't imagine 
ever going back to Apple Mail.


-Eric



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Re: [MlMt] Moving from Apple Mail to Mailmate

[Philip Paeps]

On 2020-08-26 06:20:56 (+0800), Antonio Leding wrote:
My core questions would be around performance (I have well over 150k 
messages across 12 email accounts), reliability, SpamSieve 
functionality, things you wish you’d known before migrating, etc.


I wouldn't worry about performance or reliability too much with only 
150,000 messages.  There are people on this mailing list with millions 
of messages and MailMate "just copes". :) (I have just shy of 2 million 
messages and I have one mailbox with just over 150,000 messages in it.  
I know that I am not the biggest email hoarder here.)


As an FYI, I did check out the Mailmate Mailman archive but didn’t 
find a lot concerning migrating from Apple Mail…hence this message.


If I were to venture a guess ... I'd say it's pretty uneventful for most 
people. :)


Philip

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Re: [MlMt] Moving from Apple Mail to Mailmate

[Dan Romanchik]

I hit the brick wall with Apple Mail in February. It slowed my 
two-year-old iMac down to the point of unusability.


There are two issues that I see with using MailMate vs. using Apple 
Mail. The first is that MM organizes emails differently than Mail. When 
you want to file an email, you move it to Archive and tag it 
appropriately to find it or set up the “smart mailbox” appropriately 
to find it. For example, I’ve set up a smart mailbox named “amateur 
radio” and when I want to save an amateur radio related email, I tag 
it with the “amateur radio” tag, then move it to Archive.


The second is that MM does not keep emails on your machine. Instead, it 
leaves them on the server. If you save a lot of email, you could run out 
of space on the server, as I’ve done already.


Once you realize that this is how MM works, you can make it work pretty 
much like Mail. And, it is definitely faster than Apple Mail.


Regards,

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On 25 Aug 2020, at 18:20, Antonio Leding wrote:

Hello all,

After many years of using Apple Mail, I have hit a dead-end with 
regard to both performance and search-ability.  I have always heard 
great things about Mailmate but because Mail was working well — 
coupled with a fair bit of inertia — I never took the time to really 
take a look at MM.


However, due to the issues noted above, I find I am now taking that 
look and so far, pretty darn’d impressed.  The only issue I’ve 
really had thus far was not being able to have multiple SMTP servers 
but after discovering the hidden setting to enable that experimental 
feature, I now have some of that functionality as well.


So, to all those out there who have done a similar migration, I would 
like to solicit any feedback (good and bad) you would like to offer 
someone who is considering the same change.  My core questions would 
be around performance (I have well over 150k messages across 12 email 
accounts), reliability, SpamSieve functionality, things you wish 
you’d known before migrating, etc.


As an FYI, I did check out the Mailmate Mailman archive but didn’t 
find a lot concerning migrating from Apple Mail…hence this message.


Thanks in advance for any feedback you share…
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Re: [MlMt] Moving from Apple Mail to Mailmate

[Charlie Clark]

On 26 Aug 2020, at 0:20, Antonio Leding wrote:


Hello all,

After many years of using Apple Mail, I have hit a dead-end with 
regard to both performance and search-ability.  I have always heard 
great things about Mailmate but because Mail was working well — 
coupled with a fair bit of inertia — I never took the time to really 
take a look at MM.


However, due to the issues noted above, I find I am now taking that 
look and so far, pretty darn’d impressed.  The only issue I’ve 
really had thus far was not being able to have multiple SMTP servers 
but after discovering the hidden setting to enable that experimental 
feature, I now have some of that functionality as well.


So, to all those out there who have done a similar migration, I would 
like to solicit any feedback (good and bad) you would like to offer 
someone who is considering the same change.  My core questions would 
be around performance (I have well over 150k messages across 12 email 
accounts), reliability, SpamSieve functionality, things you wish 
you’d known before migrating, etc.


As an FYI, I did check out the Mailmate Mailman archive but didn’t 
find a lot concerning migrating from Apple Mail…hence this message.


Thanks in advance for any feedback you share…


One of the nice things about e-mail is that it's protocol based so you 
can happily run different mail clients for the same account at the same 
time. And that's what I suggest you do. Maybe try your accounts one by 
one until you're confident that everything is as it should be. And if it 
isn't, you can just stick with Apple Mail.


I could never get on with Apple Mail, even after Apple hired the 
developer of Postmaster to work on it: it dumbs down too much. It's 
prettier than MailMate but means that it's missing some really useful 
stuff as a result.


Charlie

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Re: [MlMt] New Yahoo! Mail restrictions for 3rd party e-mail client access as of Oct. 20th 2020

[Jan Erik Moström]

On 25 Aug 2020, at 21:13, Greg Earle wrote:

If removing and re-adding your account does not work, generate a 
third-party app password to access your account.

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I'm not sure whether I'll be able to continue using MailMate with 
these new restrictions after October 20.


As others have said, this is the easiest solution and commonly used by 
other services. It shouldn't be a problem.


= jem
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