Re: [MlMt] Restoring from backup
On 18 Mar 2021, at 18:41, Martin S Taylor wrote: I've corrupted something in my IMAP file structure on my local fileserver. What files do I need to restore from Time Machine to get it back to the state it was in this morning? The MailMate message store is in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages/ and the index of those messages which allows MM to do fast searches is in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Database.noindex/ so if you restore those, you should get everything you need. The risk of that is if you had MM open at backup time and open files were not flushed to disk, you could have inconsistencies between the messages and the index files or amongst the index files themselves. If you do a restore from TM (or any other backup) you should probably do a database rebuild as well, as described in the MailMate Help documentation. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one pixel tracker images
On 18 Mar 2021, at 11:31, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: It can't tell if it's a 1x1 image until after it's downloaded, by which time the damage has been done. It can tell if the IMG tag includes width & height attributes, which it almost always will in HTML mail, as it is critical for doing partial rendering if the image isn't available. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one pixel tracker images
On 2021-03-19 01:02:58 (+0800), Randy Bush wrote: disabling known trackers is second-best. do i want a little snitch mailmate rule set? That's what I do. I have Little Snitch set to warn about everything. MailMate is always allowed to talk to my mailservers over SMTP and IMAP and to the update servers over HTTPS. Everything else it yells about. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Restoring from backup
I've corrupted something in my IMAP file structure on my local fileserver. What files do I need to restore from Time Machine to get it back to the state it was in this morning? Martin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one pixel tracker images
On 18 Mar 2021, at 13:02, Randy Bush wrote: >> disabling known trackers is second-best. > > do i want a little snitch mailmate rule set? > Interesting thought. I suspect that you could set a rule allowing mailmate to connect only to your SMTP and IMAP servers, plus the update server, plus (perhaps) anything else needed for license key verification. Then allow, on case-by-case basis, loading images that you want to see. --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one pixel tracker images
> disabling known trackers is second-best. do i want a little snitch mailmate rule set? randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one pixel tracker images
> Under Preferences -> Security, you can enable Image Blocking for All > Messages. already done > If you also select the extra options to strictly block known trackers, > the single pixels won't be downloaded. i see no such option in Version 1.14 (5757) i do see Always watn about downloaded single-pixel images, and it is checked. randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one pixel tracker images
Would a resource like [DuckDuckGo's tracker database](https://spreadprivacy.com/duckduckgo-tracker-radar/) help with this? Sure, nothing is going to be perfect -- there can always be a "zero day tracker," but we shouldn't make the best be the enemy of the good. On 18 Mar 2021, at 11:03, Eric Sharakan wrote: I seem to remember Benny saying something similar about MM being unable to tell ahead of time and thus unable to block them automatically. -Eric On 18 Mar 2021, at 11:31, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: It can't tell if it's a 1x1 image until after it's downloaded, by which time the damage has been done. Disabling all images is the safest; disabling known trackers is second-best. On 18 Mar 2021, at 0:06, Randy Bush wrote: Version 1.14 (5757) on big sur when i say view html, i get Images with a pixel size of 1 by 1 have been downloaded (2) i would prefer to disable 1 pixel tracker pseudo-images. clue bat, please randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one pixel tracker images
I seem to remember Benny saying something similar about MM being unable to tell ahead of time and thus unable to block them automatically. -Eric On 18 Mar 2021, at 11:31, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: It can't tell if it's a 1x1 image until after it's downloaded, by which time the damage has been done. Disabling all images is the safest; disabling known trackers is second-best. On 18 Mar 2021, at 0:06, Randy Bush wrote: Version 1.14 (5757) on big sur when i say view html, i get Images with a pixel size of 1 by 1 have been downloaded (2) i would prefer to disable 1 pixel tracker pseudo-images. clue bat, please randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one pixel tracker images
It can't tell if it's a 1x1 image until after it's downloaded, by which time the damage has been done. Disabling all images is the safest; disabling known trackers is second-best. On 18 Mar 2021, at 0:06, Randy Bush wrote: > Version 1.14 (5757) on big sur > > when i say view html, i get > > Images with a pixel size of 1 by 1 have been downloaded (2) > > i would prefer to disable 1 pixel tracker pseudo-images. clue bat, > please > > randy > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Frequent crashes
Hi, i am on Beta Releases and i download interim versions from here http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ I know that i cannot expect stable software with this strategy and i don’t. Since some days Mailmate crashes at startup when opening an email. If i do nothing for a while after start Mailmate is relativly stable. Since this behaviour is not what i can deal with all the time i tried to go back to stable. But this does not change the behavior. Maybe some settijngs which are not compatible anymore? Any ideas what to do? Would like to avoid a globales reset of Mailmate. Greetings, Tobias -- Tobias Kirchhofer tob...@kirchhofer.net Key fingerprint: 3A90 9832 05EC 7CE2 9093 55D3 910B 0343 8519 FC19 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] one pixel tracker images
On 2021-03-18 12:06:59 (+0800), Randy Bush wrote: Version 1.14 (5757) on big sur when i say view html, i get Images with a pixel size of 1 by 1 have been downloaded (2) i would prefer to disable 1 pixel tracker pseudo-images. clue bat, please Under Preferences -> Security, you can enable Image Blocking for All Messages. If you also select the extra options to strictly block known trackers, the single pixels won't be downloaded. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
