[MlMt] vim mode

[Kee Hinckley]

I recently started using Obsidian for my Markdown editing. Switched over 
from Notebooks (which was wonderfully seamless).


Obsidian has a vim mode (with a hilarious dialog box when you enable 
it). So now I'm happily editing markdown using vi commands, and I'm 
delighted.


The only problem is that now my fingers are assuming that if it's 
markdown, it's vi. And that's not working very well in MailMate!


I know there's the "edit in vim" option, but that's not really the 
experience I'm looking for. What I was wondering is how hard it would be 
to *add* vi-mode to MailMate. There are clearly ready-to-go vi-mode 
plugins out there. I use wasavi to get vi in edit fields in Chrome.___
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Re: [MlMt] Can't get SMTP account functioning

[Charlie Garrison]

Others here may have more finessed suggestions; the sledgehammer 
approach is to delete the keychain item for that account from Keychain 
Access and start again. And yes, MailMate uses the secure keychain 
storage for saving and retrieving passwords. The alternative is to enter 
the password manually for each connection.


-cng

On 31 Aug 2021, at 8:28, dig...@contrawise.net wrote:


@ Charlie Garrison, re the Activity Monitor:
I selected the SMTP account in the monitor, and it appeared empty -
despite many attempts to to send mail.

I have a hunch about the problem's cause. It has to do with the
Keychain. Does Apple's Keychain handle the login, or at least the
password used at login? I may have screwed something up by denying a
link between the keychain and MM. If so, perhaps no login activity can
even begin to take place. Without an understanding of MM's login
routine, I can only guess. The appearance, as I see it, is that the
password credential information resides in the MM SMTP config, so the
routine would get it from its place in the app, and log in with it. If
the keychain is the actual source of the password - or if MM needs
Keychain's blessing to use the password, I may have broken something. 
I

have a vague memory of denying a link to the Keychain during
configuration set-up. [I am somewhat suspicious of the Keychain, 
because

it has interfered with my password manager in the past.] I think I
understood the link to the keychain as 'optional'. I don't have a 
clear

recollection, unfortunately. I can't be sure that happened while I set
up the SMTP Login config. It might've. Sorry I can't be more specific.
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Re: [MlMt] Can't get SMTP account functioning

[diggle]

@ Charlie Garrison, re the Activity Monitor:
I selected the SMTP account in the monitor, and it appeared empty -
despite many attempts to to send mail.

I have a hunch about the problem's cause. It has to do with the
Keychain. Does Apple's Keychain handle the login, or at least the
password used at login? I may have screwed something up by denying a
link between the keychain and MM. If so, perhaps no login activity can
even begin to take place. Without an understanding of MM's login
routine, I can only guess. The appearance, as I see it, is that the
password credential information resides in the MM SMTP config, so the
routine would get it from its place in the app, and log in with it. If
the keychain is the actual source of the password - or if MM needs
Keychain's blessing to use the password, I may have broken something. I
have a vague memory of denying a link to the Keychain during
configuration set-up. [I am somewhat suspicious of the Keychain, because
it has interfered with my password manager in the past.] I think I
understood the link to the keychain as 'optional'. I don't have a clear
recollection, unfortunately. I can't be sure that happened while I set
up the SMTP Login config. It might've. Sorry I can't be more specific.
RD
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown tables and the Markdown engine in general

[Eric Sharakan]

Searching through my inbox, I see mention of the old engine being based 
on Sundown, while the new one is using CommonMark.  Searching through 
the release notes, the switch happened in Revision 5742, released 
Thursday, November 26, 2020.


-Eric

On 30 Aug 2021, at 8:24, leo wrote:

Thanks for the info. It would be great if we knew more about this 
Markdown engine…



On 30 Aug 2021, at 22:14, Eric Sharakan wrote:

It apparently depends on the version of MailMate you're running.  
Benny changed the Markdown engine it uses fairly recently.  It also 
works for me running r5820.


-Eric

On 30 Aug 2021, at 3:01, Thomas Grundberg wrote:

Strange, works for me: [screen 
dump](https://grundberg.se/temp/markdown_dashes.png).


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Re: [MlMt] Markdown tables and the Markdown engine in general

[leo]

Thanks for the info. It would be great if we knew more about this 
Markdown engine…



On 30 Aug 2021, at 22:14, Eric Sharakan wrote:

It apparently depends on the version of MailMate you're running.  
Benny changed the Markdown engine it uses fairly recently.  It also 
works for me running r5820.


-Eric

On 30 Aug 2021, at 3:01, Thomas Grundberg wrote:

Strange, works for me: [screen 
dump](https://grundberg.se/temp/markdown_dashes.png).


Mailmate 1.14 (5820), macOS 10.14.6 (Mojave).
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown tables and the Markdown engine in general

[leo]

Interesting! I use Version 1.13.1 (5676) and it definitely doesn’t 
work.


On 30 Aug 2021, at 17:01, Thomas Grundberg wrote:

Strange, works for me: [screen 
dump](https://grundberg.se/temp/markdown_dashes.png).


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Re: [MlMt] Markdown tables and the Markdown engine in general

[Eric Sharakan]

It apparently depends on the version of MailMate you're running.  Benny 
changed the Markdown engine it uses fairly recently.  It also works for 
me running r5820.


-Eric

On 30 Aug 2021, at 3:01, Thomas Grundberg wrote:

Strange, works for me: [screen 
dump](https://grundberg.se/temp/markdown_dashes.png).


Mailmate 1.14 (5820), macOS 10.14.6 (Mojave).
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