Re: [MlMt] "Mark As Junk" / "Move To Junk"
On 2022-02-01 at 14:02:48 UTC-0500 (Tue, 01 Feb 2022 14:02:48 -0500) Jim Leff is rumored to have said: I use a Gmail account. How do I mark spam (for the benefit of Google’s algorithm)? Use MailMate's "Junk" button or the "Move To Junk" menu item. On a normal IMAP server this will add the $Junk keyword and remove the $NotJunk keyword (which map to the MM Tags "Junk" and "NotJunk") AND move the message to whatever mailbox MM has set as the "Junk" sub-mailbox for that account. With GMail it's technically a bit different because they confuse and conflate keywords (calling them "labels") and sub-mailboxes, but the button or menu command will still effectively do both. MailMate lets me mark as junk, or move to junk. "Move to Junk" (but not the "Move to Mailbox" command targeting the Junk mailbox) will do both the move and the keyword changes. "Move Out of Junk" puts a message back where it came from, sets $NotJunk, and removes $Junk. On standard IMAP servers, keywords and mailboxes are independent modes of classification and there can be semantic variations that you can't get with GMail. For example, a server-side filter might never set either keyword itself but only deliver suspect mail to the Junk mailbox, while a learning system may scan for explicitly set keywords ($Junk or $NotJunk) to train itself and move messages to an appropriate mailbox after learning. There’s apparently no one trigger to have MailMate do both (though that would seem to be the most common behavior). Do you all do a two-step action on spam, or just one or the other? Just the one action, which actually does both steps. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Not working: "Include messages in any submailboxes of this mailbox" (MM r5865 on macOS 12.1)
Thanks, that makes sense. Cheers, -sam On 1 Feb 2022, at 14:19, Seamus Phillips wrote: > I think that checkbox relates to nested smart mailboxes? You need to add all > the sub imap mailboxes to the mailbox tab… or use All Messages and then use a > condition to filter on imap path. > > -- > Seamus Phillips > seamus.phill...@gmail.com > >> On 1 Feb 2022, at 13:58, Sam Birch wrote: >> >> I’d like to have a smart mailbox that includes messages from all subfolders >> of a particular IMAP folder. So I’ve selected that IMAP folder in the >> “Mailboxes” tab. Since that folder contains no messages itself (only >> subfolders) the smart mailbox is initially empty. >> >> The problem is that checking the “Include messages in any submailboxes of >> this mailbox” checkbox has no effect — the smart mailbox remains empty. >> Furthermore, the checkbox clears itself if I switch to another tab or close >> the mailbox editor. >> >> This looks like a bug, but maybe I just don’t understand how it’s supposed >> to work. Any ideas? >> >> Cheers, >> -sam >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Not working: "Include messages in any submailboxes of this mailbox" (MM r5865 on macOS 12.1)
I think that checkbox relates to nested smart mailboxes? You need to add all the sub imap mailboxes to the mailbox tab… or use All Messages and then use a condition to filter on imap path. -- Seamus Phillips seamus.phill...@gmail.com > On 1 Feb 2022, at 13:58, Sam Birch wrote: > > I’d like to have a smart mailbox that includes messages from all subfolders > of a particular IMAP folder. So I’ve selected that IMAP folder in the > “Mailboxes” tab. Since that folder contains no messages itself (only > subfolders) the smart mailbox is initially empty. > > The problem is that checking the “Include messages in any submailboxes of > this mailbox” checkbox has no effect — the smart mailbox remains empty. > Furthermore, the checkbox clears itself if I switch to another tab or close > the mailbox editor. > > This looks like a bug, but maybe I just don’t understand how it’s supposed to > work. Any ideas? > > Cheers, > -sam > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] "Mark As Junk" / "Move To Junk"
I use a Gmail account. How do I mark spam (for the benefit of Google’s algorithm)? MailMate lets me mark as junk, or move to junk. There’s apparently no one trigger to have MailMate do both (though that would seem to be the most common behavior). Do you all do a two-step action on spam, or just one or the other? JIM ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Not working: "Include messages in any submailboxes of this mailbox" (MM r5865 on macOS 12.1)
I’d like to have a smart mailbox that includes messages from all subfolders of a particular IMAP folder. So I’ve selected that IMAP folder in the “Mailboxes” tab. Since that folder contains no messages itself (only subfolders) the smart mailbox is initially empty. The problem is that checking the “Include messages in any submailboxes of this mailbox” checkbox has no effect — the smart mailbox remains empty. Furthermore, the checkbox clears itself if I switch to another tab or close the mailbox editor. This looks like a bug, but maybe I just don’t understand how it’s supposed to work. Any ideas? Cheers, -sam ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Google is eliminating the grandfathered free Google Apps (hosted domain) offering
On 2022-01-29 03:58:18 (+0800), Kee Hinckley wrote: https://9to5google.com/2022/01/19/g-suite-legacy-free-edition/ The new plans start at $6/person/month. Although apparently there's some backlash, so Google is doing a survey of users to see how many were just using it for personal/family use. Given that all I use it for is IMAP/SMTP, that raises the question of whether I should just move to Fastmail or ProtonMail? Any thoughts on benefits/limitations of those?___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate I can recommend Fastmail. I moved my ridiculously large mailbox to them about eight months ago and have no regrets. Their IMAP implementation doesn't upset MailMate and I think they offer good value for money. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
