Re: [MlMt] remove text from incoming/outgoing emails

2022-04-25 Thread Martin Dege

Hi Henry,

Thanks for your message. This is however not about pratt.edu (where I 
don’t have this probelm); I am aware that I can use a free personal 
email account to avoid this issue (thanks, though) as I understand that 
these inserts are added purposefully on the server level (it’s a 
microsoft thing most of the time and it’s mostly done by 
administrators who believe that such messages increase security).
I want to purposefully remove them from incoming messages. That was my 
question. - so I don’t have to remove them every time something is 
forwarded.


cheers,

martin

On 22 Apr 2022, at 10:28, Henry Seiden wrote:


Hi Martin,

Looks like the message was purposely placed in the body of messages at 
the server level, for a reason.


Seems to me that they want to discourage use of their servers, 
Pratt.edu, for non-company uses, heavily filtering both incoming and 
outgoing messages, hence the attachments to both the IMAP and SMTP 
sides.


IMO, this could be solved by using a personal (free) account and/or a 
discussion with your server admins.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 22 Apr 2022, at 9:21, Martin Dege wrote:


Hello All,

I think this was asked before but I cannot find a solution:

Is there a way to locally filter incoming (and outgoing) messages for 
text snippets inserted by the server, such as the following:


*CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do 
not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender 
and know the content is safe.*


Cheers,

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Re: [MlMt] Trash Can Icon in Message List

2022-04-25 Thread Eric Sharakan
On 24 Apr 2022, at 22:20, Bill Cole wrote:

> On 2022-04-24 at 18:05:23 UTC-0400 (Sun, 24 Apr 2022 18:05:23 -0400)
> Mike Conley 
> is rumored to have said:
>
>> I guess I was not so much interested in the peculiarities of the Xfinity 
>> IMAP server as I was in what exactly the trash can icon in the message list 
>> meant. Anyone know?
>
> It sounds like MM is marking messages as deleted rather than moving them to 
> whichever mailbox in the account is being used as the "Trash" mailbox. That 
> is an older model for how deletion is done in IMAP, but I'm not sure why MM 
> would do that for one account and not others or why it would show the deleted 
> but not yet expunged messages.
>
> I thought MM had a preference to use that method, but I can't find it at the 
> moment.

I know there are hidden preferences to control this behavior.  Here's what I 
set:

defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDeleteBehavior -string "markAsDeleted"
defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmShowDeletedMessages -bool YES

I've been using those settings for years.  I don't know if Benny ever made them 
available via the GUI.

BTW, I agree with Sebastian that this is the correct way to use IMAP, "older" 
or not. :-)

I have an Xfinity email account, and SpamSieve works perfectly well for me on 
that account, moving messages it thinks are spam to the "Junk" folder, so I 
don't agree with the hypotheses that this is an Xfinity issue.

-Eric

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Re: [MlMt] Trash Can Icon in Message List

2022-04-25 Thread Steven M. Bellovin

On 24 Apr 2022, at 22:20, Bill Cole wrote:


On 2022-04-24 at 18:05:23 UTC-0400 (Sun, 24 Apr 2022 18:05:23 -0400)
Mike Conley 
is rumored to have said:

I guess I was not so much interested in the peculiarities of the 
Xfinity IMAP server as I was in what exactly the trash can icon in 
the message list meant. Anyone know?


It sounds like MM is marking messages as deleted rather than moving 
them to whichever mailbox in the account is being used as the "Trash" 
mailbox. That is an older model for how deletion is done in IMAP, but 
I'm not sure why MM would do that for one account and not others or 
why it would show the deleted but not yet expunged messages.


I thought MM had a preference to use that method, but I can't find it 
at the moment.


IMAP has all sorts of optional commands; it may be that during the 
initial negotiation, MailMate learns that Xfinity doesn't have the 
preferred delete option.


—Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
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