Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[John Doherty]

On Fri 2023-04-14 04:58 AM MDT -0600,  wrote:

A very naive question: I’m currently using a domain name 
(k...@kenpope.com) for my MailMate mail.  I want to continue to use 
that name when I move to Fastmail.  If I open an account at Fastmail 
with that domain name, won’t it close/end the account at my current 
dedicated server *before* I can transfer my messages (i.e., I can’t 
have both my current *and* my Fastmail accounts under the same 
k...@kenpope.com, can I?)?


But if I open a Fastmail account under a different name (e.g., 
“k...@fastmail.com”), how do I then change my account name at 
Fastmail to k...@kenpope.com?


You will necessarily have an address @fastmail.com although you don't 
have to tell anybody else about it or send mail from it.


You should use fastmail's help docs and if necessary, ask questions of 
their support staff. They've got you covered, they help people do this 
all the time, and from my limited interaction with them, they're really 
good.


That said, here's a little more info and what I can see as the current 
state of things.


When a sending mail server has a message addresed to 
anyth...@kenpope.com, it looks up the MX record for the domain. Right 
now, yours is this:


$ host -t MX kenpope.com
kenpope.com mail is handled by 10 kenpope.com.
$ host -t a kenpope.com
kenpope.com has address 72.52.140.33

So when another mail server has a message addressed to 
anyth...@kenpope.com, it will attempt to deliver it to 72.52.140.33. You 
will need to change this to point to fastmail's incoming servers 
instead.


For example, the MX records for jld3.net are now this:

$ host -t MX jld3.net
jld3.net mail is handled by 20 in2-smtp.messagingengine.com.
jld3.net mail is handled by 10 in1-smtp.messagingengine.com.

And yours will end up looking similar or (probably) identical.

The name servers for your domain are currently:

$ host -t ns kenpope.com
kenpope.com name server ns.liquidweb.com.
kenpope.com name server ns1.liquidweb.com.

So that's where the change will have to be made. There are some other 
decisions to make here that I can't anticipate. For example, 
www.kenpope.com exists and I don't know what you want to do with that or 
when you want to do it.


If you want to leave liquidweb entirely, then you will have to have the 
DNS for the domain hosted elsewhere. Fastmail can do that for you or you 
could choose another DNS provider.


The registrar for kenpope.com is GoDaddy:

$ whois kenpope.com | grep "^Registrar:"
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC

So they control what the name servers for the domain are. If you want to 
change the name servers for kenpope.com from ns.liquidweb.com and 
ns1.liquidweb.com to something else, that's where the change will have 
to be made.


Here's some more info:

Custom domains with Fastmail


Setting up your domain: NS/MX


Adding Fastmail nameservers to GoDaddy


I would encourage you to use fastmail's support. They can walk you 
through this, they'll be happy to answer questions, address any concerns 
you have, etc. They do it all the time and they're good at it.


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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Charlie Clark]

On 14 Apr 2023, at 12:58, Ken Pope wrote:

Thank you for the detailed, helpful instructions on how to move from 
my current dedicated server to Fastmail while continuing to use 
MailMate.


A very naive question: I’m currently using a domain name 
(k...@kenpope.com) for my MailMate mail.  I want to continue to use 
that name when I move to Fastmail.  If I open an account at Fastmail 
with that domain name, won’t it close/end the account at my current 
dedicated server *before* I can transfer my messages (i.e., I can’t 
have both my current *and* my Fastmail accounts under the same 
k...@kenpope.com, can I?)?


E-mails are really just files on the server, so it's perfectly possible 
to move them between k...@kenpope.com and k...@fastmail.com.


You will **always** have a Fastmail user so the migration will normally:

* set up this user account
* migrate the e-mail to this account
* check everything is okay
* migrate the domain and set up the user

In MailMate you can follow this by:

* creating a new account for FastMail as "Ken New"
* checking everything once FastMail has imported the data and your 
machine has synched

* migrate the domain
* edit account settings for "Ken" to point to the FastMail server
* edit account settings for "Ken New" to point to the old server, just 
in case and rename it "Ken Old"

* close the old account
* once you sure everything is okay, delete "Ken Old"

But if I open a Fastmail account under a different name (e.g., 
“k...@fastmail.com”), how do I then change my account name at 
Fastmail to k...@kenpope.com?


That's really just an alias once everything has been done. FastMail says 
it has a migration service but the docs don't seem to be easy to find 
but I'd check that first.


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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Ken Pope]

Thank you for the detailed, helpful instructions on how to move from my 
current dedicated server to Fastmail while continuing to use MailMate.


A very naive question: I’m currently using a domain name 
(k...@kenpope.com) for my MailMate mail.  I want to continue to use that 
name when I move to Fastmail.  If I open an account at Fastmail with 
that domain name, won’t it close/end the account at my current 
dedicated server *before* I can transfer my messages (i.e., I can’t 
have both my current *and* my Fastmail accounts under the same 
k...@kenpope.com, can I?)?


But if I open a Fastmail account under a different name (e.g., 
“k...@fastmail.com”), how do I then change my account name at 
Fastmail to k...@kenpope.com?


As always, thanks for the generous and invaluable help.

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Re: [MlMt] good email providers that play well w/ MailMate [was: moving my mail from one server to another—will my IMAP mailboxes & their contents survive the move?]

[Charlie Clark]

On 13 Apr 2023, at 22:05, Ken Pope wrote:

What would you recommend as the *easiest* way for someone with little 
computer competence to transfer my current MM store of emails & 
folders into Fastmail so that they will be available should I use the 
web to access my Fastmail account via the web from another computer 
(i.e., not my computer that has MM)?


It depends to some degree on the volume of e-mail you need to move. 
First of all, make sure you have a local backup, either via Time Machine 
(or Carbon Copy) or a dedicated e-mail archive.


The **easiest** approach is probably just to drag the folders in 
MailMate. However, this will involved uploading all the e-mail to the 
new server. So, for any significant volume, server-to-server is the 
better approach. This should also allow you to keep any existing rules, 
etc. for these folders by letting you simply rename servers once the 
move has been completed: you can create a copy of the old account just 
in case.


Two or three of the online review services that review different email 
providers had two general concerns about Fastmail (aside from privacy, 
which I’m aware of): (a) service outages, & (b) occasional lag times 
of 3,4, or even up to 7 hours before a response from their 
customer/tech service.  Have any of you Fastmail users experienced 
either of those?


All mail providers have service outages at some point, but e-mail is 
configured to be tolerant of these. The important thing is whether 
outages are announced or not.


I don't use FastMail myself but have only ever seen positive feedback 
from users that do over many years. Personally, I value the kind of 
feedback you've had here way above any online reviews.


Charlie

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[MlMt] avoid quoting making fixed width reply?

[Max Rydahl Andersen]

Hi,

I got a few complaints about how mailmate handles quoting.

It adds quote character for every line based on my screen not the 
receivers.


i.e. if I receive

```
Here is my great message with a lot of text that is so wide that it 
overwraps. All to make it look nice. And wordy.

```

and then reply the email mailmate does this:

```

Here is my great message with a lot of text that is so wide
that it overwraps. All to make it look nice.


This is my reply


And wordy.

```

is it possible to have it do this instead (assuming there are no forced 
line breaks):


```
Here is my great message with a lot of text that is so wide that it 
overwraps. All to make it look nice.


This is my reply


And wordy.

```

Then its up to the mail viewer on the reader's end to format it to the 
width of their screen.


possible or am talking crazy?

/max
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