Re: [MlMt] Quote More/Quote Less
On Mon 2023-04-24 07:46 PM MDT -0600, wrote: In the description below of what I see, I'm going to use plus signs to indicate quoting rather than greater than signs because I think that might be clearer. Well, that didn't work at all :-) I forgot that I had recently been experimenting with using markdown and that seems to have made a mess of things. Let's try this again: If I have a message that looks like this: + quote level 1 ++ quote level 2 +++ quote level 3 And then do "Quote Less" once, it turns into this: + quote level 1 ++ quote level 2 +++ [...] Do it again, and it turns into this: + quote level 1 ++ [...] Again, and it turns into this: + [...] Not sure what to call this: "collapsing," I guess. There is one oddity here. If the first quoted line is the first line of the message, then nothing I do collapses it. This is the case in your example, so you can try putting a blank line above the one line in your example and try it again. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Quote More/Quote Less
Never noticed this feature before or at least, didn't remember it. Probably saw the menu items way back when I first started using MailMate. In the description below of what I see, I'm going to use plus signs to indicate quoting rather than greater than signs because I think that might be clearer. Not sure, but anyway... If I have a message that looks like this: + quote level 1 ++ quote level 2 +++ quote level 3 And then do "Quote Less" once, it turns into this: + quote level 1 ++ quote level 2 +++ [...] Do it again, and it turns into this: + quote level 1 ++ [...] Again, and it turns into this: + [...] Not sure what to call this: "collapsing," I guess. There is one oddity here. If the first quoted line is the first line of the message, then nothing I do collapses it. This is the case in your example, so you can try putting a blank line above the one line in your example and try it again. On Mon 2023-04-24 05:47 PM MDT -0600, wrote: The `Quote More` and `Quote Less` commands under the Format menu don't appear to do anything for me. I've tried using them in a new email, and in an email reply. Is this a bug? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Quote More/Quote Less
Hi Quinn, The quote more/less seems to increase the level on the quoted message portions selected for me. Attached text of your email shows expanded quote level using the format command. I’m not so sure how to best use the feature though except to edit the quoting in attached replies as shown. MM version 1.14 Test Build 5964. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 24 Apr 2023, at 19:47, Quinn Comendant wrote: Hello, The Quote More and Quote Less commands under the Format menu don't appear to do anything for me. I've tried using them in a new email, and in an email reply. Is this a bug? Here's a quick video showing how they do nothing. Quinn___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Quote More/Quote Less
Hello, The `Quote More` and `Quote Less` commands under the Format menu don't appear to do anything for me. I've tried using them in a new email, and in an email reply. Is this a bug? [Here's a quick video](https://send.strangecode.com/f/screen-recording-2023-04-24-at-17-08-48.mp4) showing how they do nothing. Quinn___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Running MailMate simultaneously in two locations
Multiple instances of MailMate are fine, but you can't replicate rules. IMAP doesn't have suitable locking primitives, so there's no way for MailMate to prevent such problems. The only answer that I know of is to keep all of the rules on one machine. In the past, I've done much of my sorting on a desktop, since it's always on. But there are exceptions. There are emails I want to see immediately, even if I'm just on my phone. Those I sort on my laptop. The question of how MailMate should respond to error messages is a completely different one. On 24 Apr 2023, at 14:32, Glenn Parker wrote: I use MailMate on two computers in two physically separate locations. Each instance of MailMate uses a similar set of rules on my primary INBOX to relocate certain incoming email into dedicated folders. For example, the messages from this MailMate forum are directed into a MailMate folder. I realize there are other ways to manage this kind of thing in MailMate (isolating messages from email lists), but use a less sophisticated email client on my Android devices (AquaMail), and this style yields a fairly comfortable workflow for me across all my devices. I have found that I must be careful to avoid running my two MailMate instances at the same time. Otherwise they seem to get into a fight over who is going to execute the INBOX rules. When this happens, it typically generates a bunch of seemingly dire error messages from MailMate, and eventually causes MailMate to take one or more folders off-line. My points here are two-fold. First, if you try the same thing, don’t be too surprised if you run into some complications. So far, this has not resulted in any loss of email for me, but having a folder quietly go off-line while you’re not looking can be confusing. Second, I’d like to ask if MailMate could be more forgiving when it runs into this particular situation. That is to say, when moving messages between folders using automatic rules, if a message “disappears” during the operation, allow this to be treated as a soft error that can generate an (optional) warning, but don’t take any folders off-line. Glenn P. Parker glenn.par...@comcast.net ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate —Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
Thanks for your careful description. Wah, I want to open and edit and save as new name and location, but I guess I can relearn my pattern. Maybe I can teach Hazel to open .doc files in Downloads? hmmm, that might make a mess. So the upshot of this is that my issue is a feature, not a bug. Knowing this I think I’ll be less annoyed by the behavior. thanks again Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 23 Apr 2023, at 4:45, Henry Seiden wrote: Annamarie, My 2¢… On my version of MM, 1.14 Test Build 5964, also on the last official Beta release of 1.14 (5937) (you can get a list of all releases from the Help Menu, without installing them), the double-click, assuming that is what you are doing, does indeed open a read-only version of the file assuming MacOS and the app in question supports it. Preview supports a PDF file opening in read-only. And so I can confirm that a PDF in MM, opens in Preview and appears as Read-only. Again, what would you like it to do - open as a new version of the file that can be saved to a new location? That would then become several more steps to store the file - select the new location, and save it - two more steps but certainly do-able) from there as a copy. The workaround I suggest is use the “eye” icon instead to confirm it’s what you expect. Then the “down arrow” icon instead if satisfied with the quick look. With practice you’ll find it useful and saves steps (keystrokes). Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Apr 2023, at 19:35, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: hi Hasn’t been asked. I’m double-clicking on the attachment - as I have for the many years I’ve been using MM. It’s fine if I download and then open the file. But that’s an annoying extra step, right?___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] address book
On 24 Apr 2023, at 13:05, Randy Bush wrote: latest ventura mailmate Version 1.14 (5964) message addressing does not seem to use my mac addrss book. what am i misunderstanding? I’m on Monterey 12.6.5 with MailMate 5964. Address completion in a compose window works for me. What are your preference settings in MailMate under the Composer tab for Auto-Completion Sources? I have the “Contacts” option enabled along with “Recipient Headers” in a smart folder I set up with all messages sent by me. Can you provide a more specific workflow and maybe some details about how you have your contacts set up on the Mac? Glenn P. Parker glenn.par...@comcast.net ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Running MailMate simultaneously in two locations
I use MailMate on two computers in two physically separate locations. Each instance of MailMate uses a similar set of rules on my primary INBOX to relocate certain incoming email into dedicated folders. For example, the messages from this MailMate forum are directed into a MailMate folder. I realize there are other ways to manage this kind of thing in MailMate (isolating messages from email lists), but use a less sophisticated email client on my Android devices (AquaMail), and this style yields a fairly comfortable workflow for me across all my devices. I have found that I must be careful to avoid running my two MailMate instances at the same time. Otherwise they seem to get into a fight over who is going to execute the INBOX rules. When this happens, it typically generates a bunch of seemingly dire error messages from MailMate, and eventually causes MailMate to take one or more folders off-line. My points here are two-fold. First, if you try the same thing, don’t be too surprised if you run into some complications. So far, this has not resulted in any loss of email for me, but having a folder quietly go off-line while you’re not looking can be confusing. Second, I’d like to ask if MailMate could be more forgiving when it runs into this particular situation. That is to say, when moving messages between folders using automatic rules, if a message “disappears” during the operation, allow this to be treated as a soft error that can generate an (optional) warning, but don’t take any folders off-line. Glenn P. Parker glenn.par...@comcast.net ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] using Apple Contacts.app address book in MM message compose mode
Randy, FWIW. There do seem to be some bugs about the use of Mac Contacts data in addressing a new message. Here are my findings and experience (in the same version, latest MM v1.14 Test Build 5964 (running on a MBP2021 P1 Pro in MacOS 13.3.1 version): 1. The LAST NAME of the contact where the primary contact is a name not a company. Last name must be used first so it depends on the name sorting in use with Contacts, I suppose. The sorting selection in my Contacts app is not coincidentally, by Last Name and always has been. 2. In cases where the name entry of the Company is primary (or no name exists, E.G., the name defaults to Company name), first part of the name (even a few letters) is sufficient to pull it up. 3. There is a choice of email addresses (scrollable listing) to select in a dropdown, available in the case of multiple email addresses within a found contact. 4. Not finding details on how this auto-selection of new email addresses is supposed to work in MM’s Help>Compose or Help>Preferences areas of the Help menu. Don’t know the intent of MM as to whether this is a bug or not, whether it depends on Sorting preferences in the Contact Menu settings or not. Feel free to experiment and let us know. Contacts itself doesn’t work the same way to search for a name. I typically use the last name or reply to an existing message, which copied the sender into the To: fields or all addressees in case of a reply all selection. My choices may work around what you experience. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 24 Apr 2023, at 13:05, Randy Bush wrote: latest ventura mailmate Version 1.14 (5964) message addressing does not seem to use my mac addrss book. what am i misunderstanding? randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] address book
latest ventura mailmate Version 1.14 (5964) message addressing does not seem to use my mac addrss book. what am i misunderstanding? randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
