Re: [MlMt] Migrating MailMate to new Mac

[Oliver Groschopp]

On 15 Jul 2023, at 1:01, Creed Erickson via mailmate wrote:

> For most things on the computer, Apple’s Migration Assistant is not what we 
> want to do. A pristine install of many software packages is what is needed. 
> However, MailMate and all its bits are exactly what we want on the new 
> machine. Is it possible to migrate all MailMate settings and rules to a new 
> Mac manually?
Just have a look at the really good MM manual 
https://manual.mailmate-app.com/rebuild
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Re: [MlMt] Migrating MailMate to new Mac

[i...@techworkspro.com]

The Mailmate Help or full manual have sections on migrating settings and 
accounts possibly without passwords by copying them across from current 
settings. That sounds like what you want. I have notes that I took. But you 
could look it up. Let me know if you want my notes. 

Henry
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> On Jul 14, 2023, at 19:02, Creed Erickson via mailmate 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m helping a friend set up his new Mac and migrating software from the old 
> to the new.
> 
> For most things on the computer, Apple’s Migration Assistant is not what we 
> want to do. A pristine install of many software packages is what is needed. 
> However, MailMate and all its bits are exactly what we want on the new 
> machine. Is it possible to migrate all MailMate settings and rules to a new 
> Mac manually?
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[MlMt] Migrating MailMate to new Mac

[Creed Erickson via mailmate]

I’m helping a friend set up his new Mac and migrating software from the old to 
the new.

For most things on the computer, Apple’s Migration Assistant is not what we 
want to do. A pristine install of many software packages is what is needed. 
However, MailMate and all its bits are exactly what we want on the new machine. 
Is it possible to migrate all MailMate settings and rules to a new Mac manually?
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Re: [MlMt] 5969?

[Michael Nietzold]

Same after setting the columns quit MailMate so that all settings written to the config files. And also backup the config files. Von meinem iDingens gesendet...Am 14.07.2023 um 18:01 schrieb Steve Mayer via mailmate :




Maybe the MailMate .plist files could be saved off (into source control??) after you’ve got it working so that recovery for these types of situations is shorter?
Steve Mayer

smaye...@me.com
On 14 Jul 2023, at 9:39, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote:



I love the “Standard Single Column” for the correspondence pane. Very nice!

So I took r5970 for a spin.  Thrilled by the new Standard Single Column, as I said, especially for the correspondence pane.  And perhaps I’m imagining things, but it seems like navigation is a smidge faster, too.

I spent a bunch of time tweaking my layout for the Correspondence view and saved the new column arrangement as default.  I then went to have a cup of coffee.

When I came back, r5970 had crashed (Benny, logs were automatically sent a few minutes ago).

When I relaunched,

I was no longer in Correspondence view; MM had reverted to Three Panes.
All of my column adjustments were lost (see “Forgetful Columns”).

When I re-entered Correspondence, I discovered:

The Correspondence pane had also reverted its settings.

Somehow, I’d hoped that the massive rewrite would’ve solved the Forgetful Columns problem, but I guess not.

Honestly, I miss using MailMate as my day-to-day email client — but I can’t afford to spend ten or fifteen minutes every two or three days to retrain it to work the way I want.  (Yes, it does usually take that long:  MM sets itself to a set of columns that is wrong in almost every way — including the infernal “Outline Column,” which resets to “From,” which means I can’t delete the “From” column until after I’ve changed the “Outline Column” to something else.  I like to use a “Correspondents” column, but that makes “From” redundant.)

---

Icing on the cake:  we’ve had bad flooding here in Vermont earlier this week, and the internet was very flakey.  Over and over again, my wife, my child, and I all had to remember to keep telling MailMate to “Take Fastmail Online” and “Take iCloud Online” and “Take Gmail Online.”  Please, can’t the default be that MailMate will just poll every minute or two and automatically bring it back online?  Pretty please?


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Re: [MlMt] 5969?

[Steve Mayer via mailmate]

Maybe the MailMate .plist files could be saved off (into source 
control??) after you’ve got it working so that recovery for these 
types of situations is shorter?


Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 14 Jul 2023, at 9:39, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote:

I love the “Standard Single Column” for the correspondence pane. 
Very nice!


So I took r5970 for a spin.  Thrilled by the new *Standard Single 
Column*, as I said, especially for the correspondence pane.  And 
perhaps I’m imagining things, but it seems like navigation is a 
smidge faster, too.


I spent a bunch of time tweaking my layout for the *Correspondence* 
view and saved the new column arrangement as default.  I then went to 
have a cup of coffee.


When I came back, r5970 had crashed (Benny, logs were automatically 
sent a few minutes ago).


When I relaunched,
 • I was no longer in *Correspondence* view; MM had reverted to 
*Three Panes*.
 • All of my column adjustments were lost (see “Forgetful Columns 
 
”).

When I re-entered *Correspondence*, I discovered:
 • The *Correspondence* pane had also reverted its settings.
Somehow, I’d hoped that the massive rewrite would’ve solved the 
Forgetful Columns problem, but I guess not.


Honestly, I miss using MailMate as my day-to-day email client — but 
I can’t afford to spend ten or fifteen minutes every two or three 
days to retrain it to work the way I want.  (Yes, it does usually take 
that long:  MM sets itself to a set of columns that is wrong in almost 
every way — including the infernal “Outline Column,” which 
resets to “From,” which means I can’t delete the “From” 
column until after I’ve changed the “Outline Column” to 
something else.  I like to use a “Correspondents” column, but that 
makes “From” redundant.)


---

Icing on the cake:  we’ve had bad flooding here in Vermont 
 earlier this week, and the 
internet was very flakey.  Over and over again, my wife, my child, and 
I all had to remember to keep telling MailMate to “Take Fastmail 
Online” and “Take iCloud Online” and “Take Gmail Online.”  
*Please*, can’t the default be that MailMate will just poll every 
minute or two and *automatically* bring it back online?  Pretty 
please?



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Re: [MlMt] 5969?

[Erik Mueller-Harder]

I love the “Standard Single Column” for the correspondence pane. Very nice!

So I took r5970 for a spin.  Thrilled by the new *Standard Single Column*, as I 
said, especially for the correspondence pane.  And perhaps I’m imagining 
things, but it seems like navigation is a smidge faster, too.

I spent a bunch of time tweaking my layout for the *Correspondence* view and 
saved the new column arrangement as default.  I then went to have a cup of 
coffee.

When I came back, r5970 had crashed (Benny, logs were automatically sent a few 
minutes ago).

When I relaunched,
 • I was no longer in *Correspondence* view; MM had reverted to *Three Panes*.
 • All of my column adjustments were lost (see “Forgetful Columns 
”).
When I re-entered *Correspondence*, I discovered:
 • The *Correspondence* pane had also reverted its settings.
Somehow, I’d hoped that the massive rewrite would’ve solved the Forgetful 
Columns problem, but I guess not.

Honestly, I miss using MailMate as my day-to-day email client — but I can’t 
afford to spend ten or fifteen minutes every two or three days to retrain it to 
work the way I want.  (Yes, it does usually take that long:  MM sets itself to 
a set of columns that is wrong in almost every way — including the infernal 
“Outline Column,” which resets to “From,” which means I can’t delete the “From” 
column until after I’ve changed the “Outline Column” to something else.  I like 
to use a “Correspondents” column, but that makes “From” redundant.)

---

Icing on the cake:  we’ve had bad flooding here in Vermont 
 earlier this week, and the internet 
was very flakey.  Over and over again, my wife, my child, and I all had to 
remember to keep telling MailMate to “Take Fastmail Online” and “Take iCloud 
Online” and “Take Gmail Online.”  *Please*, can’t the default be that MailMate 
will just poll every minute or two and *automatically* bring it back online?  
Pretty please?
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Re: [MlMt] 5969?

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 13 Jul 2023, at 20:26, Bill Cole wrote:

> I've tried each of the not-even-test-versions 5965-5970 currently visible in 
> the  'archives' directory and all crash on launch on Big Sur.

Just for the record, I believe this particular issue will be fixed in the next 
update.

But I have crash reports from another user which are unrelated to the above.

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