[MlMt] how to represent OR condition in Conditions
I found many many mailing lists that were just numbers and so want to hide those. I edited the example Mailing Lists as below, but assume there must be a more proper way to accomplish this? Assume the same would apply to an advanced (nested) search. And ideally would only exclude mailing lists starting with 0-9, not those that happen to have a number later on. Thank you for any tips! Christian  ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] moving Mailmate mail to a newtork share
> ln -hfs afp://[NAS]/data/MailMate/Messages ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages I tried it again from scratch and this time it worked. I think there may have been a problem with how I changed the symlink the first time. I also see that now Options-General-Messages Folder-Custom location has updated to reflect the symlink. This is unexpected. Normally a user would expect to be able to change the symlink by changing that setting. My message store had file mix-ups in this whole process so I'm starting with a new one. I know I can use the “Message ▸ Reset...” menu item after selecting all emails in each folder. Is there a way to do this for a whole Account without deleting and re-adding it? On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 6:22 AM Christian Bailey via mailmate 'mailmate at lists.freron.com' wrote: > I tried moving the target directory (com.freron.MailMate) to the NAS and > changing the link, but now MailMate crashes when run. I tried moving the > target directory to a USB drive and changed the link to point to that. > MailMate crashes when run. > > I got MailMate to run again by deleting the symbolic link, but all but > newly received messages have their content missing. I could refetch > messages using the “Message ▸ Reset...” menu item, but want to move the > directory where they are stored first. > > I've tried multiple times changing the folder in Options-General-Messages > Folder-Custom location. However, that always reverts after restarting > MailMate. > > On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 2:02 PM Christian Bailey via mailmate 'mailmate at > lists.freron.com' wrote: > >> On a MacMini, the SSD is full, mostly due to mailmate mailboxes. >> >> I tried moving them by changing the folder in Options-General-Messages >> Folder-Custom location. However, no files were moved. >> >> I see the mail is actually kept in: ~/com.freron.MailMate/Messages >> With a symlink from: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages >> >> Can I just move the first folder to the NAS and then change the symlink >> with: >> ln -hfs afp://[NAS]/data/MailMate/Messages ~/Library/Application >> Support/MailMate/Messages >> >> ? >> >> I thought this would be a common issue and searched first, but didn’t >> find anything. >> >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> >> >> ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] moving Mailmate mail to a newtork share
I tried moving the target directory (com.freron.MailMate) to the NAS and changing the link, but now MailMate crashes when run. I tried moving the target directory to a USB drive and changed the link to point to that. MailMate crashes when run. I got MailMate to run again by deleting the symbolic link, but all but newly received messages have their content missing. I could refetch messages using the “Message ▸ Reset...” menu item, but want to move the directory where they are stored first. I've tried multiple times changing the folder in Options-General-Messages Folder-Custom location. However, that always reverts after restarting MailMate. On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 2:02 PM Christian Bailey via mailmate 'mailmate at lists.freron.com' wrote: > On a MacMini, the SSD is full, mostly due to mailmate mailboxes. > > I tried moving them by changing the folder in Options-General-Messages > Folder-Custom location. However, no files were moved. > > I see the mail is actually kept in: ~/com.freron.MailMate/Messages > With a symlink from: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages > > Can I just move the first folder to the NAS and then change the symlink > with: > ln -hfs afp://[NAS]/data/MailMate/Messages ~/Library/Application > Support/MailMate/Messages > > ? > > I thought this would be a common issue and searched first, but didn’t find > anything. > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > > ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] moving Mailmate mail to a newtork share
On a MacMini, the SSD is full, mostly due to mailmate mailboxes. I tried moving them by changing the folder in Options-General-Messages Folder-Custom location. However, no files were moved. I see the mail is actually kept in: ~/com.freron.MailMate/Messages With a symlink from: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages Can I just move the first folder to the NAS and then change the symlink with: ln -hfs afp://[NAS]/data/MailMate/Messages ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages ? I thought this would be a common issue and searched first, but didn’t find anything. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] copy markdown from a message?
Is there a way to copy markdown from a message in MailMate? I need to do this from both messages I received and messages I previously sent. When I copy-paste into another markdown-compatible program (e.g., Notion web app) it comes across as plain text. My current hack is to press Cmd-Shift-D to resend the message and copy markdown from there. But it would be easier to copy directly from the rendered email. And this hack doesn’t work for copying formatted text from messages that were replied to (anything below the top message in and email with replies or forwards). e.g. here is some text I’d like to copy as markdown from a formatted message:   ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] All mailboxes formatted as "Sent Items" (unable to disable "To" column)
On 22 Dec 2022, at 22:53, Bill Cole 'mmlist-20120120 at billmail.scconsult.com' wrote: > I suspect that the reason 'To' is greyed is that it is selected as the > "Outline Column," the column which is decorated to do thread > organization. > > Select some other column as the Outline Column and I believe that you'll > be able to remove To from the display and to save that as the default. That solved it! For some reason an update must have altered the Outline setting in all my folders and also “defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates” wasn’t resetting that. Thank you Bill. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] All mailboxes formatted as "Sent Items" (unable to disable "To" column)
Simon, thank you for writing. I was on 5933 when this problem first occurred. I believe those are the exact steps I already followed: Deleted the app (r5933) and clean install from download (Beta r5918). The issue has persisted. On 22 Dec 2022, at 12:53, Simon Kaplan Personal 'simon at kaplan.id.au' wrote: > Hi Christian > > Can report that I don’t have this problem in 5933 (the latest > ‘pre-beta’) and that this version seems perfectly stable to me (at > least, for my setup - 5 mail sources, on Ventura, M2 Mac). > > To upgrade go to preferences -> software update and hold down the > option > key when pressing ‘check now’ > > If this doesn’t work then my suggestion is delete mailmate (taking > care to save things like keystroke customisations, signature plist > files > etc) and reinstall. The archive email list has lots of advice on how > to > do this safely. > > cheers > Simon > -- > Simon Kaplan > si...@kaplan.id.au > +61 411 511 122 > > “Succass is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to > continue that counts.” (Winston Churchill) > > On 23 Dec 2022, at 6:14, Christian Bailey via mailmate wrote: > >> All my mailboxes, including Inboxes are now permanently treated as >> "Sent Items”. They all show a “To” column, which I’m unable >> to >> disable. “Revert to default columns” is greyed out. >> >> I already tried quitting and running in Terminal: >> defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates >> >> I tried deleting the Test release and rolling back to the Beta >> (r5918). >> >> I had been seeing more and more problems with default columns not >> being honored (e.g., always reset in Smart Folders, always reset in >> search views). But now this latest issue has made MailMate totally >> unusable. >> >> Since rolling back to the Beta, I’m also experiencing MailMate >> hanging for ~10seconds every time I compose a new message or reply to >> one. >> >> Can anyone offer any suggestions? >> >> Thank you! >> Christian >> >> >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] All mailboxes formatted as "Sent Items" (unable to disable "To" column)
> What version are you using and what version of OS? r5918 Ventura 13.1 I’m really hoping there is a way to reset some potentially helpful settings short of a complete reinstall since I am using it with 6 IMAP accounts, all work critical, and I’m so busy right now. Screenshot of what I’m seeing: https://postimg.cc/YLKSkh2P Thanks Harry for the suggestions, hoping someone else may be able to suggest anything else I can try? Christian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] All mailboxes formatted as "Sent Items" (unable to disable "To" column)
All my mailboxes, including Inboxes are now permanently treated as "Sent Items”. They all show a “To” column, which I’m unable to disable. “Revert to default columns” is greyed out. I already tried quitting and running in Terminal: defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates I tried deleting the Test release and rolling back to the Beta (r5918). I had been seeing more and more problems with default columns not being honored (e.g., always reset in Smart Folders, always reset in search views). But now this latest issue has made MailMate totally unusable. Since rolling back to the Beta, I’m also experiencing MailMate hanging for ~10seconds every time I compose a new message or reply to one. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Thank you! Christian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Crashes every time selecting "Send Now" when quitting
I was able to get in by overwriting MM with the last stable version (MailMate for macOS 10.10-10.15: MailMate 1.13.2 (r5673). This time clicking “Ignore” a few times on the modal did allow me to dismiss it and MM to load. On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:19 PM Christian Bailey via mailmate 'mailmate at lists.freron.com' wrote: > Now I'm completely locked out of MailMate, and thus all my mail. > > I quit while a message draft was still open. MM asked if I wanted to save > or discard, I clicked "discard". Now on opening MM, I'm presented with a > modal saying "Import Autosaved Draft". Clicking "Ignore" or "Import" shows > button action but the model does not disappear and MM does not load. Screen > video: > https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0dfcXfLcthAOxhUbUAleoIrTg#Screen_Recording_2022-05-29_at_10.06.21_PM > > Any suggestions on what to do? Is there a way to find and clear just that > draft message without nuking my stored mail folders? > > Can I roll back to the previous beta that didn't have these crashes? (two > or three before 5897 I'd guess) > > > > On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 12:15 AM Benny Kjær Nielsen 'mailinglist at > freron.com' wrote: > >> On 20 May 2022, at 22:52, Christian Bailey via mailmate wrote: >> >> > Has happened consistently since the previous update. Still occurring >> > after the latest 1.14 update (5897). >> >> Thanks for the report. I'll try to reproduce this and contact you if it's >> not possible. >> >> -- >> Benny >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> >> >> ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Crashes every time selecting "Send Now" when quitting
Now I'm completely locked out of MailMate, and thus all my mail. I quit while a message draft was still open. MM asked if I wanted to save or discard, I clicked "discard". Now on opening MM, I'm presented with a modal saying "Import Autosaved Draft". Clicking "Ignore" or "Import" shows button action but the model does not disappear and MM does not load. Screen video: https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0dfcXfLcthAOxhUbUAleoIrTg#Screen_Recording_2022-05-29_at_10.06.21_PM Any suggestions on what to do? Is there a way to find and clear just that draft message without nuking my stored mail folders? Can I roll back to the previous beta that didn't have these crashes? (two or three before 5897 I'd guess) On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 12:15 AM Benny Kjær Nielsen 'mailinglist at freron.com' wrote: > On 20 May 2022, at 22:52, Christian Bailey via mailmate wrote: > > > Has happened consistently since the previous update. Still occurring > > after the latest 1.14 update (5897). > > Thanks for the report. I'll try to reproduce this and contact you if it's > not possible. > > -- > Benny > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > > ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Disappearing content in sidebar of three pane layout
Never seen that. But since I frequently hide that sidebar when working on the laptop screen, I was very happy to discover there's a shortcut to toggle it: Cmd-Opt-Ctrl-D Possible you inadvertently triggered that? -Original Message- From: mailmate On Behalf Of Brock Brandenberg 'brock at bergdesign.com' Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 12:10 PM To: fre...@aetm.us Subject: [MlMt] Disappearing content in sidebar of three pane layout Not sure if anyone else is encountering this, but the content of the sidebar (the lists of mailboxes and sources) will have disappeared when I switch back to MM from another app. I never see it disappear in front of my eyes, but after checking mail and then switching to another app to do something and returning to MM, the content is gone. I can switch layouts and the content comes back, but after this has happened, I might also see a crash when I quit MM, so something has been left in a bad stateafter it has happened. It has happened in build 5896 and at least one test build prior to this. Brock - bergdesign.com, klevr.us, dfwexhibit.com - ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Crashes every time selecting "Send Now" when quitting
Has happened consistently since the previous update. Still occurring after the latest 1.14 update (5897). Steps to reproduce: 1) Send a message with a delay 2) Quit app 3) Dialog shows "Quit / Send Now / Cancel" - select "Send Now" Outcome: MlMt crashes and generates crash log On re-loading, message that was in Outbox is now in Drafts and never gets sent Top of log pasted below. Can send reminder if helpful. Best regards, Christian - Translated Report (Full Report Below) - Process: MailMate [32745] Path: /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/MacOS/MailMate Identifier:com.freron.MailMate Version: 1.14 (5897) Code Type: ARM-64 (Native) Parent Process:launchd [1] User ID: 501 Date/Time: 2022-05-20 13:45:08.8653 -0700 OS Version:macOS 12.3.1 (21E258) Report Version:12 Anonymous UUID:5EE33FDA-74CA-F331-CFD9-3836D1DB751A Sleep/Wake UUID: BB7372FE-55AA-4F16-81F4-464CF3187E43 Time Awake Since Boot: 7 seconds Time Since Wake: 958 seconds System Integrity Protection: enabled Crashed Thread:0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type:EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: 0x, 0x Exception Note:EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY Application Specific Information: Key equivalent ‘@q’. abort() called ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Subject box obscures CC box
Another example:  On 1 Sep 2021, at 16:17, Christian Bailey via mailmate 'mailmate at lists.freron.com' wrote: > Fairly often when I “reply all” and the CC box is extended for > multiple recipients, MailMate renders the Subject box on top of the CC > box so that many of the emails there are illegible. Here is an example > (black redaction added for privacy). > > I’m running 5820, the latest test build. > >  ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Subject box obscures CC box
Fairly often when I “reply all” and the CC box is extended for multiple recipients, MailMate renders the Subject box on top of the CC box so that many of the emails there are illegible. Here is an example (black redaction added for privacy). I’m running 5820, the latest test build.  ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] bug? does not honor signature for "New Messages" only
Test Build: 5820 1) In Settings-Signatures-Default signature, select “New Messages” 2) Forward an email Observed: Signature is added Expected: No signature is added ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] is there a way to clear first search criterion?
For emails that are part of a thread, I often search first by sender name but then need to see all emails in the same thread (from all senders). I’m using: 1) Search for all emails from sender: “f [sender]” 2) Select desired email 3) In preview pane, click subject (this adds the subject as an additional search criterion) Now I see no way to remove the original f [sender] from the search. Is there a way? Right now I’m forced to go through the following work-around: 4) Right-click email in search results pane and select “Go to source” (in addition to being an extra step, this opens an undesired new window) 5) In preview pane, click subject (this adds the subject as an additional search criterion) Can you help me find a better way? Thank you! Christian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Default account is not honored when clicking email address in browser
Steps to recreate: 1) Set Mailmate as default email program in MacOS 2) Select default account (I don’t know where to do this, but may have done it at some point because if I select “All Messages” and then Cmd-N, it composes from my desired default account 3) Click an email address in browser Observed: Mailmate composes a new message with the last account added Expected: Mailmate composes a new message with the default account ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Column settings are sometimes not preserved, even after selecting “Use as Default Columns”
Latest Test Build: 5820 Steps to recreate: 1) Select a particular inbox or all inboxes 2) Add “Thread size” column 3) Resize columns 4) Select “Use as Default Columns” After using MailMate for some time, and reselecting the same inbox, the column sizing is lost and “thread size” column is no longer displayed ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Where is the list of fields? e.g. ${#source.path} (to customize Downloads Sub folder)
Hi Benny
Were you able to reproduce?
If so, is this slated for fix in an upcoming beta? I’ll keep checking/
Thank you!
Best regards,
Christian
On 26 Jul 2021, at 4:31, BennyKjærNielsen 'mailinglist at freron.com' wrote:
> On 23 Jul 2021, at 2:02, Christian Bailey via mailmate wrote:
>
>> So I tested with the default ${#source.#name}/${#source.path} and
>> attachments still save in the “Default Downloads Folder”, not a
>> Sub folder.
>>
>> Can anyone else reproduce? Is this a bug?
>
> I'll note to check that this still works. A lot of code has been
> rewritten in the past year including code related to saving attachments.
>
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Re: [MlMt] Where is the list of fields? e.g. ${#source.path} (to customize Downloads Sub folder)
Bill, thank you, very helpful to learn that these field names are not “defined”
by MailMate but rather whatever is used in the header.
I tried both the filenames you kindly suggested and MailMate just saved them in
the selected “Default Downloads Folder”.
So I tested with the default ${#source.#name}/${#source.path} and attachments
still save in the “Default Downloads Folder”, not a Sub folder.
Can anyone else reproduce? Is this a bug?
Christian
On 21 Jul 2021, at 10:13, Bill Cole 'mmlist-20120120 at billmail.scconsult.com'
wrote:
> On 2021-07-21 at 12:41:39 UTC-0400 (Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:41:39 +)
> Christian Bailey via mailmate
> is rumored to have said:
>
>> Wow, another amazing power feature discovered today. I noticed in
>> Settings-General that there is an option for Downloads to be saved in a Sub
>> folder. The default path is: ${#source.#name}/${#source.path}
>>
>> I would like the path to be the domain of the sender’s email address. (Or if
>> not possible, the entire email address.)
>
> I think ${from.domain} will give you that. If not, try ${from}
>
>> I searched everywhere and can’t find a list of the other field names for
>> MailMate. Can you help?
>
> I don't believe there can be a definitive list because MM can use any header
> field that exists in any message. You can see all of those in
> ~/Library/ApplicationSupport/MailMate/Database.noindex/Headers, where each
> indexed header has 3 files.
>
>
>
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[MlMt] Where is the list of fields? e.g. ${#source.path} (to customize Downloads Sub folder)
Wow, another amazing power feature discovered today. I noticed in
Settings-General that there is an option for Downloads to be saved in a Sub
folder. The default path is: ${#source.#name}/${#source.path}
I would like the path to be the domain of the sender’s email address. (Or if
not possible, the entire email address.)
I searched everywhere and can’t find a list of the other field names for
MailMate. Can you help?
Thank you!
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[MlMt] Error with items in Office365 account Deleted Items folder
Every time I start MM I get the below error from my Office365 account. I disabled all the non-mail folders, but am getting this error for two items in my Deleted Items folder. There are of course calendar, contact, and task items in Deleted Items, but apparently only two of them are causing this error, and it only started a couple of days ago. I do want MM to index the mail in Deleted Items. I tried to deleted the problem items, but can’t figure out how to identify them: messages with those UIDs are not in the folder in MM. I can access the folder in Outlook for Windows but don’t know how to see UIDs? "MailMate encountered the following error: “Failed to fetch data for 1 messages.”. Mailbox: “Deleted Items”. This indicates a server bug. You can tell MailMate to always ignore messages involved in this type of error (for this account) or you can temporarily ignore the messages with the following UIDs: “55147,55148”." Thank you for any help! Christian — relevant previous thread: Thibaud error with Exchange Reported by Thibaud | March 3rd, 2015 @ 07:41 AM Hello, I connect to an Exchange server (by IMAP) and I get the following error: Unexpected reply from IMAP server MailMate encountered the following error: “Failed to fetch data for 3 messages.”. Mailbox: “Calendrier”. This indicates a server bug. You can tell MailMate to always ignore messages involved in this type of error (for this account) or you can temporarily ignore the messages with the following UIDs: “4,12,13”. with a message popping-up regularly. For information, I have a calendar on this Exchange server which is named "Calendrier" and there are three items inside, so I guess the confusion comes from this. Happy to help if more information is needed. Thanx :) Comments and changes to this ticket benny benny March 3rd, 2015 @ 08:29 AM State changed from “new” to “resolved” I believe this is not really an IMAP mailbox and I'm not sure why it is exposed via IMAP. I also don't think MailMate can automatically ignore it since it looks not different than other mailboxes (other than failing to fetch messages). I suggest you go to “File ▸ Edit IMAP Account ▸ ...” and click “Edit Subscriptions” and then unsubscribe the mailbox. That should clear up the problem. Alternatively, you can right-click the “Calendrier” mailbox and explicitly select “Take Offline”. Let me know if this does not help. Thibaud Thibaud March 3rd, 2015 @ 02:20 PM Tag changed from “exchange calendar imap” to “calendar, exchange, imap” Thank you, it solved the problem! ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Custom sort mixing Date Received and From?
In the mailbox where I receive all my newsletter subscriptions and commercial email, I want to sort in the following order: 1) Message with most recent “Date Received” 2) All other messages with the same “From” as Message 1) in order of “Date Received” 3) Message with the second most recent “Date Received” 4) All other messages with the same “From” as Message 3) … and so on This would enable me to review and archive the newest messages first, but at the same time easily archive **all** messages from a particular company or newsletter, which is often appropriate. In steps 2) and 4), alternatively the same “To” because some companies send commercial email from different addresses but I use aliases so issue a custom To address for each company. I searched the list archives for custom sort and couldn’t find anything relevant to this functionality. MM is so awesomely capable and customizable, I’m hoping there is a way? Thank you! Best regards, Christian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Local email archiving status/options?
On 25 Jan 2021, at 3:30, Fredrik Jonsson 'f...@xdeb.org' wrote: >> 2) I might end up with duplicates. Or does MM automatically no import >> duplicates? Any recommendations on de-duplication? > > You have the "Edit -> Select Duplicates" command but I have never made > use of it. Great tip. I’d seen that that’s built-in to MM. It also allows quick visual review. >> 5) Is there a way to open a message in a >> separate window? > > Select a message and go to "File -> Open Message". > > As other has mention hitting "return" also work. Thank you! @Thomas Grundberg: Thanks to you too: “Return” works! However, a double-click does not open the message for me. It does (very helpfully) search on sender or subject if I double click either of those. > I have mapped it to "O" in my custom keybindings. > > Custom keybindings and smart folders are the killer feature of > MailMate > in my opinion. I’m so excited to set these up. Most urgently I need to “Go To” each of the individual Sources’ Inbox, Archive, and Sent Items. I have totally different contexts for my mail and don’t use the combined views at all. On 25 Jan 2021, at 2:53, Thomas Grundberg 'tho...@grundberg.se' wrote: > With the message/s selected, hit return. A double-click also does it. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Local email archiving status/options?
I found this message and the related [ticket](https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/81-archiving-to-local-folders) searching on options to import my 65 GB of offline archived email into MailMate. I’m loving the power and customizability of MailMate by the way. Switched from a PC would have switched a decade ago had I known. The lack of features in MacOS Mail.app compared to Outlook on Windows made me give up on switching twice before. I checked and my IMAP servers actually support 50 GB each and so it is feasible for me to ditch local email completely and upload everything to the servers the MM way. A few questions: 1) Which is better for importing via MM - eml or mbox? Like Bill, I also just purchased Emailchemy to covert the pst files. It offers both mbox and eml as options. I presume mbox is better if I want to import everything? 2) I might end up with duplicates. Or does MM automatically no import duplicates? Any recommendations on de-duplication? 3) When I connected my Office 365 account, there were hundred of error messages as MM tried to download the Contacts, Calendar, Notes, and Tasks folders. I presume these should be unsubscribed? 4) Just want to confirm: does MM get its address book from MacOS? I see that it has Contacts access in System Preferences-Privacy, so that’s expected. Just curious because some other mail apps (e.g., Thunderbird) actually access the Office 365 contacts directly. I wanted to confirm that MM never reads contacts from a mail server? 5) Is there a way to open a message in a separate window? Within MM, the only option appears to be to create a duplicate window of the whole application, folders and all. Some messages are poorly formatted and need to be opened in a wider window to be read. I also tried “Open in Apple Mail” but get the following error: “The operation couldn’t be completed. (MCMailErrorDomain error 1030.) // Mail was unable to open the URL “message://%3c20210124214048.d35c4121...@mail.netagw.net%3E”.” Thank you! Christian On 25 Aug 2015, at 17:59:48 EDT, Bill Cole wrote: > On 25 Aug 2015, at 7:03, Brian Scholl wrote: > >> Also, a more theoretical postscript: It seems to me that Benny's >> reluctance to pursue any sort of .mbox export […] > > I can’t speak to the IMAP-*v*-POP3 debate, but I would really love > the ability to export a series of messages as a .mbox file in the same > format that Apple Mail does. Isn't mbox great: one always has to specify a particular tool's flavor... If you want a reasonably portable mbox on your Desktop containing the messages in a MM IMAP (not "Smart") folder, it's easily done with a simple bit of shell calling the crufty old "formail" tool: cd "~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages/IMAP/[account at server]/[path-to-folder]/Messages/" for fname in *.eml ; do formail < $fname ; done > ~/Desktop/Exported.mbox If you want the delimiter lines' timestamps derived from Date headers instead of now, the conversion gets more arcane and will not like improper Date headers: for fname in *.eml; do formail -a Date: < $fname ; done | sed '/^From /s/, \(..\) \(...\) \(\) \(..:..:..\) .*/ \2 \1 \4 \3/' > ~/Desktop/Exported.mbox Unfortunately, there's no sound way to get the proper delivery date into the delimiter lines unless you are an IMAP client, so Mail.app does one thing unequivocally better than formail. Also, unlike Mail.app, formail uses (CORRECTLY) the Return-Path header (if present) to derive the delimiter line address instead of Mail.app's simple use of the From message header and only adds blank lines ahead of delimiter lines on an as-needed basis. So, while MailMate won't duplicate what Apple Mail does, one can get pretty close using the MailMate message store without MailMate doing the actual work. > In addition to using SpamSieve on my Mac (which is quite good), I > maintain my own mail server (Mac OS X 10.6.8, until I am forced to > “upgrade”) It is mildly amusing to learn that, as it means I'm not alone and in respectable company. In my case the excuse is that the original Core Duo can't do 64-bit mode and so can't run 10.7 or later, and I can't bear to junk that old machine... (Tangent: Senior mail admins are insanely over-represented on this mailing list.) > and use SpamAssassin there to try to intercept as much crud as > possible *before* it gets to SpamSieve. Apple Mail produces the > perfect .mbox files for feeding to SpamAssassin’s spam-learning > routines, so periodically I have to haul Mail out, select all the junk > that SpamAssassin needs to learn how to intercept, and File > Save > As… (raw source) to a file that I can then drag to the server and > run learnspam against. I'm surprised that no one in this thread has yet mentioned the simple ability to select messages in a MM message list and drag them to a Finder window: a very fast way to create a file-per-message offline local archive. As someone who has retained
