Re: [MlMt] At the risk of being off-topic . . .

[Sherman Wilcox]

I’ll second that. Not just about Greenland though — darned near everything. 

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> On Aug 22, 2019, at 7:06 PM, Andrew Buc  wrote:
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> I know Benny is Danish, and I imagine some MailMate users are also. On behalf 
> of my fellow Americans, I’d like to apologize for Trump being such a jerk 
> about Greenland.
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Re: [MlMt] Message/text color question

[Sherman Wilcox]

Sorry, Benny, when you say latest test release do you mean latest beta 
build?


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On 1 May 2019, at 14:16, Sherman Wilcox wrote:

I’m now using a fix supplied by a fellow MailMater user, some CSS 
files placed in Resources > MmMessagesWebView. I’ll revert to the 
default config and make sure I’m using the latest test release for a 
while, and report back what I find.


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On 1 May 2019, at 1:38, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 11 Apr 2019, at 18:57, Sherman Wilcox wrote:

I’ve asked this question before but I don’t think I got a 
definitive answer so I thought I’d try again. I really like using 
Dark Theme in Mojave, and I like how it looks in MailMate too. But I 
consistently get messages that have (1) white background with dark 
text (which is fine); (2) dark background with white text (also 
fine); (3) dark background with either black or dark grey text 
(which is unreadable).


I consider it a MailMate bug when this happens. MailMate should go 
black on white whenever it's not sure that reverting it will work.


My understanding is that this is probably dependent on how the 
messages were sent. But is there anything I can do on my end to 
force messages to be either #1 or #2? That is, force them to NOT 
appear as dark background with black or grey text?


Could you verify that you still have the issue with the latest test 
release? And if you do, I would like to see an example message (use 
Help ▸ Send Feedback and drag to the composer to attach it).


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Re: [MlMt] Message/text color question

[Sherman Wilcox]

I’m now using a fix supplied by a fellow MailMater user, some CSS 
files placed in Resources > MmMessagesWebView. I’ll revert to the 
default config and make sure I’m using the latest test release for a 
while, and report back what I find.


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On 1 May 2019, at 1:38, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 11 Apr 2019, at 18:57, Sherman Wilcox wrote:

I’ve asked this question before but I don’t think I got a 
definitive answer so I thought I’d try again. I really like using 
Dark Theme in Mojave, and I like how it looks in MailMate too. But I 
consistently get messages that have (1) white background with dark 
text (which is fine); (2) dark background with white text (also 
fine); (3) dark background with either black or dark grey text (which 
is unreadable).


I consider it a MailMate bug when this happens. MailMate should go 
black on white whenever it's not sure that reverting it will work.


My understanding is that this is probably dependent on how the 
messages were sent. But is there anything I can do on my end to force 
messages to be either #1 or #2? That is, force them to NOT appear as 
dark background with black or grey text?


Could you verify that you still have the issue with the latest test 
release? And if you do, I would like to see an example message (use 
Help ▸ Send Feedback and drag to the composer to attach it).


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Re: [MlMt] Odd problem

[Sherman Wilcox]

Answering my own message: I’ve fixed the problem. For whatever reason, 
the iCloud Drafts folder in Sources was not set for Mailbox Type > 
Drafts. Changing that to make it the Drafts mailbox fixed the problem.


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On 13 Apr 2019, at 22:12, Sherman Wilcox wrote:

I have two accounts: fastmail and iCloud. So I have two subfolders in 
Archive and in Drafts, for each of those accounts. Everything was 
fine, but now the iCloud Drafts folder has ALL of my iCloud Archive 
messages in it. If I delete a message from the iCloud Drafts folder, 
the corresponding message is deleted in the iCloud Archive folder.


I don’t want to risk losing my iCloud Archive messages. What can I 
do about this situation? I have no idea how it happened.


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[MlMt] Odd problem

[Sherman Wilcox]

I have two accounts: fastmail and iCloud. So I have two subfolders in 
Archive and in Drafts, for each of those accounts. Everything was fine, 
but now the iCloud Drafts folder has ALL of my iCloud Archive messages 
in it. If I delete a message from the iCloud Drafts folder, the 
corresponding message is deleted in the iCloud Archive folder.


I don’t want to risk losing my iCloud Archive messages. What can I do 
about this situation? I have no idea how it happened.


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[MlMt] Message/text color question

[Sherman Wilcox]

I’ve asked this question before but I don’t think I got a definitive 
answer so I thought I’d try again. I really like using Dark Theme in 
Mojave, and I like how it looks in MailMate too. But I consistently get 
messages that have (1) white background with dark text (which is fine); 
(2) dark background with white text (also fine); (3) dark background 
with either black or dark grey text (which is unreadable).


My understanding is that this is probably dependent on how the messages 
were sent. But is there anything I can do on my end to force messages to 
be either #1 or #2? That is, force them to NOT appear as dark background 
with black or grey text?


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Re: [MlMt] Sudden iCloud problem

[Sherman Wilcox]

FWIW, I tried using a different email client (Postbox) and there is no 
problem accessing my iCloud Archive folder. I also have no problem 
accessing other folders using MailMate, only (and only within the last 
few hours, I think) the Archive folder using MailMate.


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On 26 Mar 2019, at 18:10, Sherman Wilcox wrote:

All of a sudden I am getting an iCloud error message (attached 
screenshot): Mailbox unexpectedly already exists. I’ve had an iCloud 
mailbox for years. I don’t know why it is suddenly trying to be 
created.



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Re: [MlMt] Correspondence view

[Sherman Wilcox]

It’s not a problem, just a curiosity. Every once in a while I try other apps. 
When I come back to MailMate after an hour or so, it feels like it fits like a 
glove. I’ve probably barely scratched the surface of its capabilities, but for 
now I’ve customized it to suit my needs. 

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> On Mar 26, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Benny Kjær Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
>> On 18 Mar 2019, at 21:18, Sherman Wilcox wrote:
>> 
>> I use correspondence view extensively. I use Subject and Date Received 
>> columns in most folders (I’m under the impression that the columns in 
>> correspondence view can be set on a per folder basis).
>> 
>> I’ve noticed that lately in the Inbox, where I have only Subject and Date 
>> Received columns in the correspondence view, every once in a while a third 
>> column will appear, the From column. Is there any reason why this could be 
>> happening?
> 
> I don't know what would trigger this specific behavior, but as stated in 
> another recent thread on this list, the entire column-caching system is 
> unfortunately buggy :| (I'm not going to try to debug any specific issues 
> with the current system since it needs to be completely replaced with 
> something more robust/explicit instead of the current 
> “trying-to-guess-when-the-user-would-want-to-save-or-restore-mailbox-related-settings”.)
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[MlMt] Correspondence view

[Sherman Wilcox]

I use correspondence view extensively. I use Subject and Date Received 
columns in most folders (I’m under the impression that the columns in 
correspondence view can be set on a per folder basis).


I’ve noticed that lately in the Inbox, where I have only Subject and 
Date Received columns in the correspondence view, every once in a while 
a third column will appear, the From column. Is there any reason why 
this could be happening?


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Re: [MlMt] beta r5609

[Sherman Wilcox]

Thanks for the link, Benny. I’ll keep the beta version and try to 
figure out if there is a pattern. Another case, a single message, just 
occurred. Should I forward that message to you?


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On 21 Feb 2019, at 13:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 21 Feb 2019, at 18:17, Sherman Wilcox via mailmate wrote:

I am using this version as of today and see an issue, I believe. Some 
junk messages that are routed to Junk (by SpamSieve) still appear in 
the Inbox. But they cannot be selected or deleted. When I navigate to 
the Junk folder and select the message there, it then disappears from 
the Inbox. And of course it can be deleted from the Junk folder.


That doesn't sound good. I don't seem to be able to reproduce it. Let 
me know if you see any pattern with regard to when it does and does 
not happen.


Could you also try and see if downgrading solves the issue: 
http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5594.tbz


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[MlMt] beta r5609

[Sherman Wilcox via mailmate]

I am using this version as of today and see an issue, I believe. Some 
junk messages that are routed to Junk (by SpamSieve) still appear in the 
Inbox. But they cannot be selected or deleted. When I navigate to the 
Junk folder and select the message there, it then disappears from the 
Inbox. And of course it can be deleted from the Junk folder.


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Re: [MlMt] What's with the skulls?

[Sherman Wilcox]

Oh, I get that too, when I send out messages through my university 
online content management system (Blackboard, I believe).


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On 15 Feb 2019, at 21:45, John Cooper wrote:

What's with the skulls that MailMate displays in the return addresses 
of some messages?


![image](https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwfzu880yxqp4io/skulls.png)

I've viewed the raw messages to try to figure out what prompts this 
kind of display, but I only see an @ 
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Re: [MlMt] Menubar icon

[Sherman Wilcox]

Also take a look at BarTender for managing an unruly menu bar. 

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> On Jan 1, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Charlie Garrison  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2 Jan 2019, at 12:30, Dave C wrote:
> 
> The green menubar icon with number that indicates MailMate status, how can I 
> get rid of this icon? My menubar is quite crowded.
> 
> Prefs -> Counters -> In Menu Bar checkbox
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Re: [MlMt] Dark mode question

[Sherman Wilcox]

Could be. I do notice, though, that I have two messages from the same 
person, sent 2 hours apart. One has white body, the other dark body.


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On 27 Dec 2018, at 17:02, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote:


On 27 Dec 2018, at 18:32, Sherman Wilcox wrote:

I’m using dark mode on Mojave. In MailMate, the bodies of some 
messages are light/white, while others (most) are dark. Is there any 
way to make the bodies of all messages appear light?


I’m guessing that’s HTML mail, and your going to get whatever 
it’s inline styles tell you to get (or don’t tell you).



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[MlMt] Dark mode question

[Sherman Wilcox]

I’m using dark mode on Mojave. In MailMate, the bodies of some 
messages are light/white, while others (most) are dark. Is there any way 
to make the bodies of all messages appear light?


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[MlMt] Gladys and MailMate

[Sherman Wilcox]

I’ve been testing out the macOS and iOS drag-drop utility Gladys. It 
seems to have problems working with MailMate — JPGs dragged out of 
Gladys onto MailMate work, but PDF and Word files (the only files I’ve 
tested so far), do not. I’m in touch with the developer, but I thought 
I’d post here to see if anyone else is using Gladys with MailMate. Is 
this a problem unique to my installation?



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Re: [MlMt] mailmate Digest, Vol 58, Issue 16

[Sherman Wilcox]

On 17 Jan 2016, at 8:57, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote:


I have found that debugging key bindings can be tricky.


It’s true, and Padraic’s troubleshooting method of commenting out 
and testing new keybindings is a good idea. Benny is always helpful too.


But the payoff is worth the effort. I would prefer to NEVER take my 
fingers off the keyboard when doing email. Only MailMate lets me get 
close to this. I have a keybindings .plist for changing focus among the 
three panels (mailbox list, message list, and message), navigate to my 
most commonly used folders, file messages to most common destination 
folders, and more. It was based on the Postbox keybindings .plist but I 
have revised it extensively.


I also have a few KeyboardMaestro shortcuts that I use with MailMate for 
multistep tasks (maybe this can be done in MailMate).


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Re: [MlMt] mailmate Digest, Vol 58, Issue 16

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On 17 Jan 2016, at 8:57, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote:


I have found that debugging key bindings can be tricky.


For what it’s worth, here are some navigational keybindings that I 
use, including some that are directly pointing to specific mailboxes in 
my main account. Yes, I sometimes have multiple keybindings to go to the 
same mailbox. I consider them “alternate fingerings” (former oboe 
player here) for use in different typing contexts.



//  Navigation
	"I" = ( "goToMailbox:", 
"imap://shermanwilcox%40fastmail...@mail.messagingengine.com/INBOX/ICLA", 
"makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline");
	"X" = ( "goToMailbox:", 
"imap://shermanwilcox%40fastmail...@mail.messagingengine.com/INBOX/FlexCard", 
"makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline");
	"A" = ( "goToMailbox:", "ARCHIVE", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline" 
);

"S" = ( "goToMailbox:", "SENT", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline" );
"K" = ( "goToMailbox:", "JUNK", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline" );
"i" = ( "goToMailbox:", "INBOX", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline");
"D" = ( "goToMailbox:", "TRASH", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline");
	"R" = ( "goToMailbox:", 
"imap://shermanwilcox%40fastmail...@mail.messagingengine.com/INBOX/Receipts", 
"makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline");

"," = ( "goToMailbox:", "INBOX", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline");
	"." = ( "goToMailbox:", "ARCHIVE", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline" 
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[MlMt] MailMate and TextExpander

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On 10 Jun 2015, at 10:00, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote:

 As a data point, this is not happening for me with the 
 newest
 textexpander.

Thanks. I’ve done more testing. It’s still happening to me, and it’s
quite puzzling. Here’s what I’ve discovered.

Scenario 1:
(1) Select some text for quoting. Type “r” for reply. When the new
message with quoted text appears, type Return. The problem appears: The
cursor skips back a space (back a return, actually, to the end of the
quote), “R” appears at the end of the quote. The Edit menu lights up, so
something is happening with Edit.

Cancel out that message.

(2) Try the same thing again, and the second time it does not happen.

Scenario 2:
(1) Comment out the “r” keybinding. Use Command-r for a reply. All is
well, no problem whatsoever.

So, for me, the problem does seem to be related to the keybinding of “r”
but I can’t understand what it might be. As I say, this problem does not
appear with Typinator. 

HOWEVER...

In replying to this thread, I've just discovered another issue which
points away from MailMate. I decided to reply from my Fastmail account,
using Safari instead of MailMate (don't ask why). The procedure there is
to (1) Type c to compose a new message, (2) type in the address. When
I do this, a C appears immediately as I begin to type the address (in
other words, I get cmailm...@lists.freron.com). And the Edit menu in
Safari lights up. So this is EXACTLY the same problem. It clearly has
something to do with TextExpander on my system, because it I quit TE,
the problem goes away in both MailMate and Safari.

So... a little more exploring and I've discovered that if I turn off the
option in TE to capitalize sentences, this problem goes away. Problem
solved, for me.

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[MlMt] MailMate and TextExpander

[Sherman Wilcox]

I don’t know whether this is a MailMate or a TextExpander issue, but I
suspect the MailMate list might be more helpful to me, so I’m posting
here.

I alternate between liking TextExpander (TE) and Typinator for my
snippets app. Since TE recently was updated, I thought I’d give it a
try.

In MailMate, I have a keybinding “r” for Reply. When I run TE, and type
“r” to reply in MailMate, following by a Return, I get a capital “R”
inserted in the body of the new reply. [This seems to happen only if I
have also selected some text to quote in the reply.]

Does anyone have any idea why this should be? I’ll also try sending a
message to Smile Software to see what they say, and if they have an
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Re: [MlMt] mailmate Digest, Vol 39, Issue 14

[Sherman Wilcox]

On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:00, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote:


Its as if it thinks - or any other non-character now means hit enter

and select.



I cannot reproduce this behavior. I wonder if it could be related to
Yosemite? Can anyone (just one for each OS) confirm this behavior on
Yosemite or earlier OS'es.



Running 10.9.3, MailMate 1.8 (4285), on a 2013 MacBook Air. I cannot 
reproduce this behavior.


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