Re: [MlMt] Archive and Trash not syncing on a fresh install

2023-12-17 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
Claudio, Is the moved to Trash message still findable in the All Messages smart folder? - -Please excuse the tttapping errors... Sent from my iPhoneC/T (954) 253-4125Henry M. SeidenTechworks ProOn Dec 17, 2023, at 11:36, Claudio Ruiz  wrote:





Hi Henry, thanks for your attention on this.
I already checked that and it’s all OK. Actually, I have a work account on the same provider and that account works perfectly. I don’t really know what else to debug to understand what is happening.
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On 17 Dec 2023, at 12:33, Henry Seiden wrote:

Claudia,
Thanks for filling the details. Think I got you now.
Maybe it would be easier, then, to have a look at your source mailbox assignments in MM on each of your IMAP accounts to be sure that the folders for Trash and Archive are designated as such in MM. Inbox and outbox are usually defaults and I guess are working as expected. In my case I assign a yearly folder for archive purposes, so the common folder in MM Called Archive can gather all together in that Smart Folder by default.
I do nothing further to achieve these common folders in MM: InBox, Sent Messages, Junk, Deleted Messages. Yours probably have been somehow reset for those two folders in several accounts, at least.
Have a look in your Sources list of mailboxes - click the ‘>’ and select one mailbox (probably either Archive, Trash/Deleted messages  or what ever mailbox you choose to be those function on the account). Right click (CTL + click) the name of the mailbox to change, scroll in the popup list to Mailbox Type. Make sure the checkmark is set to Archive if not then click it.
Rinse and repeat for the appropriate mailboxes in each account.
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On 17 Dec 2023, at 10:09, Claudio Ruiz wrote:

Hello!
It’s a MacBook Air M2 (Sonoma 14.2). I didn’t migrate anything but my Mailboxes.plist.
I’m OK with having a fresh start, but I can’t find why neither archiving or trashing works.
I’m not sure there’s something to do with versions. I upgraded it to Version 1.14 (5937) but the same happens.
I’m using IMAP such as in my office computer (where I also use Mailmate with no issue) and in my old laptop. It’s really strange, because I’m doing a fresh install from scratch.
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On 17 Dec 2023, at 9:34, Henry Seiden wrote:

Hi Claudio,
You didn’t mention what computer model or OS you now have. Nor whether you migrated all your settings in MailMate.
You do seem to have a quite early version. The most current version of Malmate is 1.14 (in 2011) and the latest, most stable release is r5673, according to the release notes. In the developer’s app history that is a long time ago. Sure you have right? Many aspects of the app have been updated in 1.14 and subsequent build, too numerous to mention here. Maybe others have experience with your version. So that question is open.
I do recommend you migrate your settings when upgrading to a new computer instead of whatever process you did use (restore from backup, copy, etc.).
Since that may no longer be feasible, you may need to reinstall new setting for each IMAP account. Are you still using POP on your server accounts?
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On 17 Dec 2023, at 6:26, Claudio Ruiz wrote:

Hi folks,
I got a new computer and installed Mailmate as usual. After connecting the email accounts I have on Fastmail, I realized that when I Archive an email it’s gone from the Inbox in Mailmate, but nothing happens on the server. When I try to Trash a message, is gone on my Inbox in Mailmate, but is still there on the inbox on the server.
Basically, it doesn’t sync. What is weird is that on my old notebook, everything works flawlessly using a mirrored configuration.
I’m using Version 1.13.2 (5673)
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Re: [MlMt] IMAP Problem for Account

2023-12-07 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
Stephan, Suggest you send feedback on all the problems via the Feedback option on the app. Also sending copy to the developer Benny Nielsen). My version seems stable on 10 accounts. Sorry can’t help further. Henry- -Please excuse the tttapping errors... Sent from my iPhoneC/T (954) 253-4125Henry M. SeidenTechworks ProOn Dec 7, 2023, at 11:37, Stephan Bösebeck  wrote:





Unfortunately this did not work. I tried also installing an older version (5937) - same issue.
It ended up being so bad, that I could not use Mailmate anymore. So I removed the source...  that caused errors, that Mailmate could not delete some emails.
Then things went sideways. When trying to force delete, MailMate crashed. When keeping them, it also kept the account. So I deleted them via commandline - the whole account that is.
Then, after staring MailMate again, it was downloading everything and it was then fine...
Until I sent an email. I got the UIDVALIDITY-Message more or less directly after sending.
I removed the account in total again, this time it worked... so I try to add it once more...
I will see, if that helps.
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I recently found the same problem you reported on MM r6008 (experimental build). In my case it was an Outlook IMAP account that was reporting the error 

What I found was that the password on my account’s SMTP settings was missing. I checked the Activity monitor first to verify the problem, then looked at IMAP Settings to confirm the cause. Re-entering the missing password cleared the issue up.  

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Hi,
i am using the latest test-build for some days now, but I have a strange error message since today:
IMAP Problem for "XXX" account

The so-called UIDVALIDITY value of the mailbox "Sent" has changed. MailMate has to resynchronize the mailbox, that is, purge the local cache and refetch the messages of the mailbox.
If this happens often then you should investigate the issue. Refetching messages is a very inefficient action.
Note: The option to "Always Resynchronize" only works until MailMate is relaunched.

I did that now 3 times and every time it restarts. Can it be related to SpamSieve? As this error only happens, if those messages are "trained" again...


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Re: [MlMt] IMAP Problem for Account

2023-12-07 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
I recently found the same problem you reported on MM r6008 (experimental 
build). In my case it was an Outlook IMAP account that was reporting the error 

What I found was that the password on my account’s SMTP settings was missing. I 
checked the Activity monitor first to verify the problem, then looked at IMAP 
Settings to confirm the cause. Re-entering the missing password cleared the 
issue up.  

HIH. YMMV, good luck! 
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> On Dec 7, 2023, at 10:12, Stephan Bösebeck  wrote:
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> i am using the latest test-build for some days now, but I have a strange 
> error message since today:
> 
> IMAP Problem for "XXX" account
> 
> The so-called UIDVALIDITY value of the mailbox "Sent" has changed. MailMate 
> has to resynchronize the mailbox, that is, purge the local cache and refetch 
> the messages of the mailbox.
> If this happens often then you should investigate the issue. Refetching 
> messages is a very inefficient action.
> Note: The option to "Always Resynchronize" only works until MailMate is 
> relaunched.
> I did that now 3 times and every time it restarts. Can it be related to 
> SpamSieve? As this error only happens, if those messages are "trained" 
> again...
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Re: [MlMt] Migrating MailMate to new Mac

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The Mailmate Help or full manual have sections on migrating settings and 
accounts possibly without passwords by copying them across from current 
settings. That sounds like what you want. I have notes that I took. But you 
could look it up. Let me know if you want my notes. 

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> On Jul 14, 2023, at 19:02, Creed Erickson via mailmate 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m helping a friend set up his new Mac and migrating software from the old 
> to the new.
> 
> For most things on the computer, Apple’s Migration Assistant is not what we 
> want to do. A pristine install of many software packages is what is needed. 
> However, MailMate and all its bits are exactly what we want on the new 
> machine. Is it possible to migrate all MailMate settings and rules to a new 
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Re: [MlMt] white numbers in menu bar counter

2023-03-15 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
Guess this explains why different people have dissimilar coloring of the counters with same version of MM.  other opinions of hidden prefs and counters to the contrary, eh?- -Please excuse the tttapping errors... Sent from my iPhoneC/T (954) 253-4125Henry M. SeidenTechworks ProOn Mar 15, 2023, at 11:46, Benny Kjær Nielsen  wrote:





On 14 Mar 2023, at 15:37, Shoshanna Green wrote:

Just updated to 5950 on my iMac running Big Sur 11.7.2, and the number in my menu bar counter has turned white, which makes it impossible to read against the light gray of the menu bar itself. Is there a way to adjust this? (I tried all four counters; they have different color circles around the number, but the number is always white.)

Sorry! This is a bug introduced while fixing some other issues with the colored counters (menu bar and dock icon) “caused” by macOS updates.
I've fixed it and it should be more robust going forward since I use less custom code to do it. This is also why the colored background is gone. I'm now using a standard Apple component for the number and then I add the colored circle. This should ensure the counts have the same color as the other menu bar items (I believe this color depends on both light/dark mode and the background image used).
Recent test releases have been somewhat crashy because of a lot of low level improvements/rewrites/fixes which has revealed other bugs which used to be silently “ignored” (which is a bad thing). These bugs would crash MailMate instead making them much more likely to be fixed :)
The latest upload appears to be stable for me, but I don't quite dare to make it a test release yet. Here's a direct link for those who do not mind if they have to report any crashes/regressions via “Help > Send Feedback”: MailMate_r5955.tbz
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Re: [MlMt] Anyone else have extra HTML in Raw view?

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Think I’m seeing the same as you, Pete, in 5922. 

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> On Oct 24, 2022, at 13:47, Pete Resnick via mailmate 
>  wrote:
> 
> It looks like an HTML representation of the message headers.
> 
> I'm also not seeing black on grey for "raw format", but a box around it and 
> colored header names. Something is also goofy about character encodings 
> (though different than what John Cooper described earlier), but I can't 
> figure out exactly what's going on.
> 
> I think some new feature has gone a bit goofy in 5922.
> 
> pr
> 
> 
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>> On 24 Oct 2022, at 11:21, Bill Cole wrote:
>> 
>> Running latest test build r5922, 99% certain it wasn't in r5920.
>> 
>> "View->Show Raw Message" switches the message to black on grey as before, 
>> but now there's a superfluous HTML wrapper around what appears to be the 
>> original raw message.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MlMt] Toggling between ‘Reply’ and ‘Reply All’

2022-10-03 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
I get a popup every time I click either the arrow or ⌘ R. I can select either 
option in that window. 

FWIW… Would still prefer the old method of single or all direct selection. 
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> On Oct 3, 2022, at 09:38, Jolin Warren  
> wrote:
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> In the current version of MailMate, is there a way to toggle a reply between 
> ‘Reply’ and ‘Reply All’ after I’ve started writing the message? I thought 
> that in previous versions I could hit cmd-R repeatedly to toggle whether I 
> was replying just to the sender or to everyone, but that doesn’t work now. I 
> sometimes start a reply and then realise I meant to reply to everyone (or 
> vice versa) and it’s cumbersome to have to copy, delete the reply, start a 
> new one, and paste.
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Re: [MlMt] MM crashes often on M1 macbook pro

2022-08-12 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
Ken, 

You may know that no crashes on MBP 2019 15,2 Intel on any version of MacOS. 
Sorry to hear tho’. 

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> On Aug 12, 2022, at 13:36, Ken Pope  wrote:
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> 
> I had no problems w/ MM on M1 pro but when I moved to M1 Max macbook pro, MM 
> started crashing as you described.
> 
> Benny told me to try MM Version 1.14 (5887). I did, and since then no crashes.
> 
> I currently run OS Monterey 12.5 on Macbook pro 16-inch, 2021.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Ken
> 
> On 12 Aug 2022, at 12:57, Eli Rotenberg wrote:
> 
> Just upgraded my laptop to a new M1 MacBook pro, and I am sad to say MailMate 
> is hardly useful because it frequently crashes while composing messages. I’ve 
> sent a few crash reports to apple but I thought it was worth once writing you 
> as well.
> 
> Seems to have to do with the time spent editing. I can send any number of 
> short emails, like those requiring editing less than 60 seconds.
> 
> But when I am spending more time editing, like a few minutes or more, it is 
> likely to hang on the spinning beachball. I thought maybe it was crashing on 
> saving the draft, because on every case the draft was up to date after 
> restarting. But then one counterexample showed up. I thought maybe it was 
> from going several times to the start or middle of the message and inserting 
> some text, but sometimes it crashed when typing straight from beginning to 
> end without much editing.
> 
> Hopefully you can track this down because it’s one of my favorite apps of all 
> time and I hate to give it up. I didn’t have this problem on my old laptop.
> 
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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
Benny, 

Happy to test MM r5900 on Ventura for you with my Intel MBP2019. It’s installed 
on an external drive. 

Sorry to hear there’s no iPhone version. Mail is pretty good, though I’m sure 
yours would better. 

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> On Jun 24, 2022, at 11:00, Michael Nietzold  
> wrote:
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> 
> 
> Von meinem iDingens gesendet...
> 
>>> Am 24.06.2022 um 15:49 schrieb Benny Kjær Nielsen :
>>> 
>>> On 24 Jun 2022, at 14:56, Henry Seiden wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there a version for iPad/iPhone?
>> 
>> Sorry, but no.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MlMt] Searching on attachment filenames

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To be honest Glenn, my usual search is by sender name, which seems mostly 
successful, so far. My typical search method is typing in MM. Searching the 
browser pane. 

Items returned show in All Messages. 

When I have a chance, will try to replicate what you attempted (search for a 
file type, “.ics”) or other. 

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> On Jun 1, 2022, at 10:56, Glenn Parker  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is anyone else able to get reliable search results on attachment filenames in 
> MailMate?
> 
> I have an IMAP folder that contains some messages with an attached file 
> called “Attachment.ics” (standard Zoom calendar invite).
> 
> If I just search for “A ics”, I only see messages from year 2020 and earlier. 
> I verified that I have messages from year 2022 with an “Attachment.ics” 
> attached file.
> 
> I tried rebuilding my entire message database, but I still get the same 
> results. Is this maybe a problem with searching on filename extensions versus 
> the main filename?
> 
> Using Edit > Find > Mailbox Search… was even worse. I enabled 
> “Attachment-Name” as a search option, but I get zero messages no matter what 
> I search for.
> 
> NB: I already sent a separate email about this using the Send Feedback… 
> option, but I wanted to check with others, too.
> 
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Re: [MlMt] Feature request [Reply or rule?]

2022-04-29 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
Yes it is. Thanks. Apparently according to Benny the selection is off by 
default at installation which may explain some things. 

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> On Apr 29, 2022, at 13:45, Randall Meadows  wrote:
> 
> On 29 Apr 2022, at 7:49, Henry Seiden wrote:
> 
>> When replying to an email, how about a standard convention to allow for 
>> selection of text to automatically include JUST the selection in the replay.
> 
> In your original message, I selected just the first (full) sentence and hit 
> ⌘-R, resulting in the above quote.  Is this not what you're talking about?  
> This is controlled by the "Only include selected text" checkbox in the 
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Re: [MlMt] Trash Can Icon in Message List

2022-04-24 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
Mike, 

Pretty sure that the Trash can action moves a group (or a single one) of 
selected messages to the appropriate source account’s trash mailbox. It’s coded 
into the app. 

That’s the extent of my info. Someone may want to add to this. 

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> On Apr 24, 2022, at 18:06, Mike Conley  wrote:
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> I guess I was not so much interested in the peculiarities of the Xfinity 
> IMAP server as I was in what exactly the trash can icon in the message list 
> meant. Anyone know?
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Re: [MlMt] Trash Can Icon in Message List

2022-04-23 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
I do know that SpamSieve author Michael Tsai does support his product but 
doesn’t support MailMate. Also his support for Mail is outstanding. 

Personally, I use a separate “drone” SpamSieve set up for filtering my 9 
accounts outside of MailMate. It works fine. Of those accounts none are 
Xfinity, however. 

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> On Apr 23, 2022, at 10:11, Mike Conley  wrote:
> 
> I have an account set up in MailMate pointing to the Xfinity IMAP server, 
> and I use SpamSieve as a spam filter. Messages that get marked as spam are 
> meant to be sent to the Junk folder.
> 
> What I see, however, is the spam messages appear in the INBOX folder with 
> little trash can icons in the leftmost column (under the • header). They 
> don't show up in the Deleted Messages folder, or in the Trash folder, or even 
> in the Junk folder in MailMate; they remain in the INBOX folder.
> 
> Any thoughts as to why this is? It's the only account I have that behaves 
> this way.
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Re: [MlMt] MM keeps demanding passwords

2022-03-08 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
Randall, 

Some accounts need App-Specific passwords to be used in MM. Could this be your 
problem? Specifically when i migrated from Apple Mail, iCloud needed those to 
both log in and send email. It is mentioned in the help guide and other docs. 
Some others like Google and Yahoo! send you to a website when relocating your 
mail client. Kinda the same steps to validate clients. 

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> On Mar 8, 2022, at 11:55, Randall Gellens  wrote:
> 
> I just changed the setting on the Login keychain, Hopefully that fixes it.
> 
> --Randall
> 
>> On 8 Mar 2022, at 7:50, Randall Gellens wrote:
>> 
>> I migrated from my long-time High Sierra laptop to a new one (currently 
>> running Big Sur as I had some problems with Monterey). Mailmate moved over 
>> mostly fine, but when the laptop has been idle for a while, or just when MM 
>> feels like it, it pops up a dialog demanding the password for various 
>> accounts, claiming the password isn't in the keychain, which it is. I open 
>> Keychain Utility, copy the password to the clipboard, paste it into the box, 
>> and MM is happy for a while. Very annoying.
>> 
>> I upgraded yesterday to 5852 but no difference.
>> 
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Re: [MlMt] Mailmate r5874 Issue with accounts [Yahoo Server fails to stay online when laptop moves to a new internet connection]

2022-03-07 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
Bill, 

Sounds like you and I have the same experience and use case for Yahoo! Mail. 

So what settings should I use for manually checking mail there. Alternatively 
if I could slow it down considerably like 15 minute intervals, that would be 
great. 

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> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:15, Bill Cole  
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> On 2022-03-07 at 08:04:25 UTC-0500 (Mon, 7 Mar 2022 13:04:25 +)
> Henry Seiden 
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> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Just letting you know of continuing issue with Accounts staying on line, in 
>> particular Yahoo! Coming back with an A1 connection error.
> 
> This is mostly a problem with Yahoo because of their low simultaneous 
> connection limit but it is theoretically possible anywhere under the wrong 
> conditions.
> 
>> I found that do duplicate the issue regularly in this version, and I think 
>> later revisions as well of MailMate here are the steps:
>> 1. Starting with a working, non-failing condition of MailMate, select a 
>> different connection method. For instance without leaving my house, I chose 
>> to go from a LAN connection (plugged in LAN cable) to wireless connection 
>> (unplug the LAN cable and turn on the Wireless on the same machine).
>> 2. MailMate was left open on the desktop.
>> 3. Immediately (within 30 seconds of changing connection methods the warning 
>> popped up that the connection to Yahoo! Server had failed due to the error 
>> and a choice of try later or take the account off-line was required.
> 
> This is almost certainly unavoidable with certain network architectures. It 
> is likely to be generally impossible to sustain any TCP sessions across that 
> network change unless you've designed the network to not break sessions. To 
> do that, you need to make whatever is doing your WAN link (and presumably 
> NAT) see your machine on the new link as the same machine that just vanished 
> on the wire. If you are using a single machine (e.g. SOHO router/WAP) for 
> wireless and wired connections, it will never see a new wireless client as 
> the owner of the NAT mappings that it has for the wired connection.
> 
> 
>> 4. Disconnecting the account (taking it off line) got rid of the warning.
>> 5. Leaving it off for over 30 seconds, then turning it back to online did 
>> NOT solve the problem. However, closing MailMate app for about a minute and 
>> then restarting did solve the problem permanently, until the next move to 
>> another wired or wireless connection.
> 
> That is 100% consistent with your router discarding the old NAT mappin gs 
> before they've closed properly, and Yahoo taking a formally correct period to 
> time out the session(s) using your simultaneous connection slots.
> 
> I've simply given up on using Yahoo for always-on IMAP: I check mail there 
> manually only, not on a schedule, so MM doesn't always have a connection 
> open. Obviously that's not an option if your Yahoo account is for serious 
> use. (Mine is purely a testing tool.)
> 
> 
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