Re: [MlMt] "throttled" source ?
On 30 Jun 2016, at 2:59, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Hi, This morning i'm noticing I'm missing some mails in various folders. I could see them on the online archives of mailing lists, and they are available on gmail directly but in mailmate they where not there. I thought my source might be offline, but it is not instead it says "throttled". What does that mean ? It seems to me that's a GMail thing, at least mostly. See https://support.google.com/a/answer/1071518?hl=en It's possible that other providers may adopt Google's undocumented divergences from standard IMAP and be recognized by MM as 'throttled' but that would be unfortunate. Benny's response seems to imply that it's more generic but I've seen this exactly twice, both with users who were annoying Google by actually using their GMail accounts. and how can I make it non-throttled ? :) Get a real IMAP provider? GMail is worth (at most) what you pay for it. p.s. is there a way to move the sources above the mailbox so I can actually see the source is not in a good state without scrolling ? Well, there's the show/hide widget for he mailboxes section... ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] "throttled" source ?
On 1 Jul 2016, at 8:15, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Yeah, I figured so much but I haven't really done anything differently and I've been using this setup for over a year now. Today the source is no longer throttled so not an urgent issue at this point but damn it would be useful if Google would provide a way to know how close one is to the limit. Right now it seems to be a random ;/ Anyway, seems to be an issue between Google and me, not mailmate specifically. I'm afraid I suspect MailMate is to blame since I've had some similar reports in the most recent months. The “throttled” state is quite new. This was mainly introduced to improve the behavior of MailMate during the initial synchronization of large account(s). When MailMate is in this state then it stops synchronizing with the exception of the INBOX. When the account is no longer throttled then MailMate resumes synchronization (which can quickly lead to the throttled state again, but there's not much I can do about that). So, I fear that you get into the throttled state because MailMate has been busy looping with the server. It could be related to the issue very recently reported by [Bill](https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/1491-the-definition-of-insanity#ticket-1491-2), but I'm not sure about that. I suspect there is a separate issue only related to Gmail (because of the handling of IMAP keywords and Gmail labels). I'm not really interested in when MailMate gets into the throttled state since that's just a symptom. I'm more interested in suspicious persistent spinners for specific mailboxes. In that case, use “Help ▸ Send Server Logs” and I'll look for any issues. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] "throttled" source ?
On 1 Jul 2016, at 3:42, Gary Hull wrote: On 30 Jun 2016, at 15:59, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: This morning i'm noticing I'm missing some mails in various folders. I could see them on the online archives of mailing lists, and they are available on gmail directly but in mailmate they where not there. I thought my source might be offline, but it is not instead it says "throttled". What does that mean ? and how can I make it non-throttled ? :) The throttling probably comes from Google's side. I use an SEO rank checker called Advanced Web Ranking, which crawls Google, submitting searches for terms you input and checking to see if your website is ranking for those terms. The AWR developers limit the requests and randomize their frequency, but nevertheless Google will sometimes detect the crawling and throttle them, or cut your IP address off altogether. I assume that they do this with e-mail accesses from IMAP clients also. In the case of AWR, the software reports back to the developers and they update the intervals in order to outsmart Google, but with MailMate you'd just have to manually reset the frequency. You might be exacerbating the problem if you are manually and obsessively choosing Synchronize in MailMate or if you have another e-mail client simultaneously synchronizing. Yeah, I figured so much but I haven't really done anything differently and I've been using this setup for over a year now. Today the source is no longer throttled so not an urgent issue at this point but damn it would be useful if Google would provide a way to know how close one is to the limit. Right now it seems to be a random ;/ Anyway, seems to be an issue between Google and me, not mailmate specifically. /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] "throttled" source ?
On 30 Jun 2016, at 15:59, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: This morning i'm noticing I'm missing some mails in various folders. I could see them on the online archives of mailing lists, and they are available on gmail directly but in mailmate they where not there. I thought my source might be offline, but it is not instead it says "throttled". What does that mean ? and how can I make it non-throttled ? :) The throttling probably comes from Google's side. I use an SEO rank checker called Advanced Web Ranking, which crawls Google, submitting searches for terms you input and checking to see if your website is ranking for those terms. The AWR developers limit the requests and randomize their frequency, but nevertheless Google will sometimes detect the crawling and throttle them, or cut your IP address off altogether. I assume that they do this with e-mail accesses from IMAP clients also. In the case of AWR, the software reports back to the developers and they update the intervals in order to outsmart Google, but with MailMate you'd just have to manually reset the frequency. You might be exacerbating the problem if you are manually and obsessively choosing Synchronize in MailMate or if you have another e-mail client simultaneously synchronizing. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] "throttled" source ?
Hi, This morning i'm noticing I'm missing some mails in various folders. I could see them on the online archives of mailing lists, and they are available on gmail directly but in mailmate they where not there. I thought my source might be offline, but it is not instead it says "throttled". What does that mean ? and how can I make it non-throttled ? :) p.s. is there a way to move the sources above the mailbox so I can actually see the source is not in a good state without scrolling ? Thanks, /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
