Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"

2023-04-24 Thread Annamarie Pluhar
Thanks for your careful description. Wah, I want to open and edit and 
save as new name and location,  but I guess I can relearn my pattern. 
Maybe I can teach Hazel to open .doc files in Downloads? hmmm, that 
might make a mess.


So the upshot of this is that my issue is a feature, not a bug. Knowing 
this I think I’ll be less annoyed by the behavior.


thanks again
Annamarie



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On 23 Apr 2023, at 4:45, Henry Seiden wrote:


Annamarie,

My 2¢… On my version of MM, 1.14 Test Build 5964, also on the last 
official Beta release of 1.14 (5937) (you can get a list of all 
releases from the Help Menu, without installing them), the 
double-click, assuming that is what you are doing, does indeed open a 
read-only version of the file assuming MacOS and the app in question 
supports it. Preview supports a PDF file opening in read-only. And so 
I can confirm that a PDF in MM, opens in Preview and appears as 
Read-only.


Again, what would you like it to do - open as a new version of the 
file that can be saved to a new location? That would then become 
several more steps to store the file - select the new location, and 
save it - two more steps but certainly do-able) from there as a copy.


The workaround I suggest is use the “eye” icon instead to confirm 
it’s what you expect. Then the “down arrow” icon instead if 
satisfied with the quick look. With practice you’ll find it useful 
and saves steps (keystrokes).


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On 22 Apr 2023, at 19:35, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:


hi

Hasn’t been asked. I’m double-clicking on the attachment - as I 
have for the many years I’ve been using MM. It’s fine if I 
download and then open the file. But that’s an annoying extra step, 
right?___

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Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"

2023-04-23 Thread Henry Seiden

Annamarie,

My 2¢… On my version of MM, 1.14 Test Build 5964, also on the last 
official Beta release of 1.14 (5937) (you can get a list of all releases 
from the Help Menu, without installing them), the double-click, assuming 
that is what you are doing, does indeed open a read-only version of the 
file assuming MacOS and the app in question supports it. Preview 
supports a PDF file opening in read-only. And so I can confirm that a 
PDF in MM, opens in Preview and appears as Read-only.


Again, what would you like it to do - open as a new version of the file 
that can be saved to a new location? That would then become several more 
steps to store the file - select the new location, and save it - two 
more steps but certainly do-able) from there as a copy.


The workaround I suggest is use the “eye” icon instead to confirm 
it’s what you expect. Then the “down arrow” icon instead if 
satisfied with the quick look. With practice you’ll find it useful and 
saves steps (keystrokes).


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 22 Apr 2023, at 19:35, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:


hi

Hasn’t been asked. I’m double-clicking on the attachment - as I 
have for the many years I’ve been using MM. It’s fine if I 
download and then open the file. But that’s an annoying extra step, 
right?___
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Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"

2023-04-23 Thread Henry Seiden

Annamarie,

Bingo. MM is smart enough to see the two actions differently and goes 
ahead with the method you’ve requested.


Yes, good to hear you confirm that the down arrow icon does what it 
always has (download to selected location, the download folder by 
default). That’s why I asked, I’d be worried if it didn’t. It has 
in past versions and still does.


So, the real question then could be, “How do I open a file by double 
clicking it (or substitute the actual shortcut steps you’d be wanting 
to take)?” And the answer is that read only may be kind of like the 
quick look eye icon also located next to the down arrow on the 
attachment strip. BTW the ‘-‘ icon is also common, removing the 
attachment.


Respectfully,

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On 22 Apr 2023, at 19:35, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:


hi

Hasn’t been asked. I’m double-clicking on the attachment - as I 
have for the many years I’ve been using MM. It’s fine if I 
download and then open the file. But that’s an annoying extra step, 
right?


thanks
Annamarie

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802-579-5975

On 21 Apr 2023, at 8:06, Henry Seiden wrote:


Annamarie,

This may have been asked before, but how are you opening attachments 
which give you a Read-Only indication:

1. Double-Click on the attachment in the message, in MM?
2. Use arrow key to download to the default folder (usually 
Downloads) and open from there to its default app (E.G. Preview or 
others)?

3. Some other way… Specifically what?

And last, which version and MacOS are you using?


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 21 Apr 2023, at 6:41, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

Thanks for responding.  I’ve come back to this issue after a busy 
few weeks. Implemented the code as directed in Terminal and it is 
not having any effect. I am not a coder but understand that I open 
Terminal, paste the code as copied, and hit return.


Am I missing a step?  yes, I quit MM and rebooted computer.

Thanks
Annamarie


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On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:18, Bill Cole wrote:

On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 
-0400)

Annamarie Pluhar 
is rumored to have said:


HI

Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open 
as “Read Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out 
where to change a setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ?   It 
doesn’t happen to my friend also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a 
MBA M2.



There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from 
Benny is at:


https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg16006.html



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Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"

2023-04-22 Thread Annamarie Pluhar

hi

Hasn’t been asked. I’m double-clicking on the attachment - as I have 
for the many years I’ve been using MM. It’s fine if I download and 
then open the file. But that’s an annoying extra step, right?


thanks
Annamarie

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On 21 Apr 2023, at 8:06, Henry Seiden wrote:


Annamarie,

This may have been asked before, but how are you opening attachments 
which give you a Read-Only indication:

1. Double-Click on the attachment in the message, in MM?
2. Use arrow key to download to the default folder (usually Downloads) 
and open from there to its default app (E.G. Preview or others)?

3. Some other way… Specifically what?

And last, which version and MacOS are you using?


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 21 Apr 2023, at 6:41, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

Thanks for responding.  I’ve come back to this issue after a busy 
few weeks. Implemented the code as directed in Terminal and it is not 
having any effect. I am not a coder but understand that I open 
Terminal, paste the code as copied, and hit return.


Am I missing a step?  yes, I quit MM and rebooted computer.

Thanks
Annamarie


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802-579-5975

On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:18, Bill Cole wrote:


On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 -0400)
Annamarie Pluhar 
is rumored to have said:


HI

Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open 
as “Read Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out 
where to change a setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ?   It 
doesn’t happen to my friend also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA 
M2.



There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from 
Benny is at:


https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg16006.html



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Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"

2023-04-21 Thread Henry Seiden

Annamarie,

This may have been asked before, but how are you opening attachments 
which give you a Read-Only indication:

1. Double-Click on the attachment in the message, in MM?
2. Use arrow key to download to the default folder (usually Downloads) 
and open from there to its default app (E.G. Preview or others)?

3. Some other way… Specifically what?

And last, which version and MacOS are you using?


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 21 Apr 2023, at 6:41, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

Thanks for responding.  I’ve come back to this issue after a busy 
few weeks. Implemented the code as directed in Terminal and it is not 
having any effect. I am not a coder but understand that I open 
Terminal, paste the code as copied, and hit return.


Am I missing a step?  yes, I quit MM and rebooted computer.

Thanks
Annamarie


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802-579-5975

On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:18, Bill Cole wrote:


On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 -0400)
Annamarie Pluhar 
is rumored to have said:


HI

Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open 
as “Read Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out 
where to change a setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ?   It 
doesn’t happen to my friend also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA 
M2.



There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from 
Benny is at:


https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg16006.html



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Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"

2023-04-21 Thread Annamarie Pluhar
Thanks for responding.  I’ve come back to this issue after a busy few weeks. 
Implemented the code as directed in Terminal and it is not having any effect. I 
am not a coder but understand that I open Terminal, paste the code as copied, 
and hit return.

Am I missing a step?  yes, I quit MM and rebooted computer.

Thanks
Annamarie


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On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:18, Bill Cole wrote:

> On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 -0400)
> Annamarie Pluhar 
> is rumored to have said:
>
>> HI
>>
>> Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open as “Read 
>> Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out where to change a 
>> setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ?   It doesn’t happen to my friend 
>> also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA M2.
>
>
> There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from Benny is 
> at:
>
> https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg16006.html
>
>
>
> -- 
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Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"

2023-04-12 Thread Bill Cole

On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 -0400)
Annamarie Pluhar 
is rumored to have said:


HI

Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open as 
“Read Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out where 
to change a setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ?   It doesn’t 
happen to my friend also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA M2.



There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from Benny 
is at:


https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg16006.html



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[MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"

2023-04-12 Thread Annamarie Pluhar
HI

Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open as “Read 
Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out where to change a setting. 
I’m assuming it’s a setting. ?   It doesn’t happen to my friend also on MM. I’m 
in Ventura on a MBA M2.

Any help?
thanks
Annamarie

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