Re: [MlMt] Migrating MM
If you have multiple IMAP accounts, setting up each account can be quite laborious. The settings for all IMAP accounts are stored in the plist files. I forgot to mention that you should first launch MM and then close it (!) to ensure that some default settings are established before copying the settings files. MM should not be running while you're copying the files. At the very least, open MailMate and allow it to synchronize all of the emails from the IMAP server. Von meinem iDingens gesendet... > Am 07.05.2023 um 10:19 schrieb Seamus Phillips : > > I do this quite often, and do something similar. > > I first open a fresh copy of MM on the new machine and put in the IMAP > account info manually, let it download the emails. > > Then I close it down and copy across the various plist files for all the > other settings to get my custom set up. > > Hope that helps. > > -- > Seamus > >>> On 7 May 2023, at 07:51, Michael Nietzold >>> wrote: >>> >> As I remember I only transfered some plist files with the settings. (Only >> some bytes or MB) Then all messages are downloaded again from the >> IMAP.servers. >> >> Von meinem iDingens gesendet... >> Am 07.05.2023 um 01:55 schrieb davecc : >>> >>> Glenn, >>> Thank you very much for your reply. You are my only link to a possible >>> solution. I’ve tried all I know to no avail, and Benny is not reachable (I >>> hope he’s OK…). >>> >>> When I install MM 1.14 on my new Catalina volume with no migrated messages >>> or settings, it progresses with the initial setup (it immediately asks for >>> the first IMAP address). All seems normal. >>> >>> If I first copy the folder ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate (7.4 GB) >>> to the new Catalina volume, when I launch MM I see this error: >>> >>> https://imgur.com/drWkmhR >>> >>> Re-launching brings the same message. >>> >>> The Original path is identical for both Application Support/MailMate >>> folders (Sierra and Catalina volumes). >>> >>> In the Catalina Get Info box I clicked on the “Select New Original…” button >>> and navigated to the Catalina volume’s Messages.noindex folder. Just for >>> grins. Same error when attempting to launch MM. >>> >>> Any help or even wild suggestions are welcome. I have no Mac email client >>> and my thumbs are wearing out! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dave >>> >>> On 3 May 2023, at 10:08, davecc wrote: > I’m creating a new boot volume (Catalina) and doing a minimal, manual > migration of needed apps. > > I downloaded MM from thr Freron server. > > I copied > ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate > > from the old boot volume (Sierra) to the new boot volume (Catalina). By default (if you don’t enable “Indexed for Finder/Spotlight”), the “Messages” folder is created as an alias pointing to “Messages.noindex”. Does that alias exist, and does it point to your new Messages.noindex folder? Glenn P. Parker glenn.par...@comcast.net ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Migrating MM
I do this quite often, and do something similar. I first open a fresh copy of MM on the new machine and put in the IMAP account info manually, let it download the emails. Then I close it down and copy across the various plist files for all the other settings to get my custom set up. Hope that helps. -- Seamus > On 7 May 2023, at 07:51, Michael Nietzold > wrote: > > As I remember I only transfered some plist files with the settings. (Only > some bytes or MB) Then all messages are downloaded again from the > IMAP.servers. > > Von meinem iDingens gesendet... > >>> Am 07.05.2023 um 01:55 schrieb davecc : >>> >> >> Glenn, >> Thank you very much for your reply. You are my only link to a possible >> solution. I’ve tried all I know to no avail, and Benny is not reachable (I >> hope he’s OK…). >> >> When I install MM 1.14 on my new Catalina volume with no migrated messages >> or settings, it progresses with the initial setup (it immediately asks for >> the first IMAP address). All seems normal. >> >> If I first copy the folder ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate (7.4 GB) >> to the new Catalina volume, when I launch MM I see this error: >> >> https://imgur.com/drWkmhR >> >> Re-launching brings the same message. >> >> The Original path is identical for both Application Support/MailMate folders >> (Sierra and Catalina volumes). >> >> In the Catalina Get Info box I clicked on the “Select New Original…” button >> and navigated to the Catalina volume’s Messages.noindex folder. Just for >> grins. Same error when attempting to launch MM. >> >> Any help or even wild suggestions are welcome. I have no Mac email client >> and my thumbs are wearing out! >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >> >>> On 3 May 2023, at 10:08, davecc wrote: >>> I’m creating a new boot volume (Catalina) and doing a minimal, manual migration of needed apps. I downloaded MM from thr Freron server. I copied ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate from the old boot volume (Sierra) to the new boot volume (Catalina). >>> >>> By default (if you don’t enable “Indexed for Finder/Spotlight”), the >>> “Messages” folder is created as an alias pointing to “Messages.noindex”. >>> Does that alias exist, and does it point to your new Messages.noindex >>> folder? >>> >>> Glenn P. Parker >>> glenn.par...@comcast.net >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Migrating MM
As I remember I only transfered some plist files with the settings. (Only some bytes or MB) Then all messages are downloaded again from the IMAP.servers. Von meinem iDingens gesendet... > Am 07.05.2023 um 01:55 schrieb davecc : > > > Glenn, > Thank you very much for your reply. You are my only link to a possible > solution. I’ve tried all I know to no avail, and Benny is not reachable (I > hope he’s OK…). > > When I install MM 1.14 on my new Catalina volume with no migrated messages or > settings, it progresses with the initial setup (it immediately asks for the > first IMAP address). All seems normal. > > If I first copy the folder ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate (7.4 GB) to > the new Catalina volume, when I launch MM I see this error: > > https://imgur.com/drWkmhR > > Re-launching brings the same message. > > The Original path is identical for both Application Support/MailMate folders > (Sierra and Catalina volumes). > > In the Catalina Get Info box I clicked on the “Select New Original…” button > and navigated to the Catalina volume’s Messages.noindex folder. Just for > grins. Same error when attempting to launch MM. > > Any help or even wild suggestions are welcome. I have no Mac email client and > my thumbs are wearing out! > > Thanks, > Dave > > >> On 3 May 2023, at 10:08, davecc wrote: >> >>> I’m creating a new boot volume (Catalina) and doing a minimal, manual >>> migration of needed apps. >>> >>> I downloaded MM from thr Freron server. >>> >>> I copied >>> ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate >>> >>> from the old boot volume (Sierra) to the new boot volume (Catalina). >> >> By default (if you don’t enable “Indexed for Finder/Spotlight”), the >> “Messages” folder is created as an alias pointing to “Messages.noindex”. >> Does that alias exist, and does it point to your new Messages.noindex folder? >> >> Glenn P. Parker >> glenn.par...@comcast.net >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Migrating MM
Glenn, Thank you very much for your reply. You are my only link to a possible solution. I’ve tried all I know to no avail, and Benny is not reachable (I hope he’s OK…). When I install MM 1.14 on my new Catalina volume with no migrated messages or settings, it progresses with the initial setup (it immediately asks for the first IMAP address). All seems normal. If I first copy the folder ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate (7.4 GB) to the new Catalina volume, when I launch MM I see this error: https://imgur.com/drWkmhR Re-launching brings the same message. The Original path is identical for both Application Support/MailMate folders (Sierra and Catalina volumes). In the Catalina Get Info box I clicked on the “Select New Original…” button and navigated to the Catalina volume’s Messages.noindex folder. Just for grins. Same error when attempting to launch MM. Any help or even wild suggestions are welcome. I have no Mac email client and my thumbs are wearing out! Thanks, Dave > On 3 May 2023, at 10:08, davecc wrote: > >> I’m creating a new boot volume (Catalina) and doing a minimal, manual >> migration of needed apps. >> >> I downloaded MM from thr Freron server. >> >> I copied >> ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate >> >> from the old boot volume (Sierra) to the new boot volume (Catalina). > > By default (if you don’t enable “Indexed for Finder/Spotlight”), the > “Messages” folder is created as an alias pointing to “Messages.noindex”. Does > that alias exist, and does it point to your new Messages.noindex folder? > > Glenn P. Parker > glenn.par...@comcast.net > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Migrating MM
On 3 May 2023, at 10:08, davecc wrote: > I’m creating a new boot volume (Catalina) and doing a minimal, manual > migration of needed apps. > > I downloaded MM from thr Freron server. > > I copied > ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate > > from the old boot volume (Sierra) to the new boot volume (Catalina). By default (if you don’t enable “Indexed for Finder/Spotlight”), the “Messages” folder is created as an alias pointing to “Messages.noindex”. Does that alias exist, and does it point to your new Messages.noindex folder? Glenn P. Parker glenn.par...@comcast.net ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Migrating MM
On 2023-05-03 at 10:08:50 UTC-0400 (Wed, 3 May 2023 07:08:50 -0700) davecc is rumored to have said: I’m creating a new boot volume (Catalina) and doing a minimal, manual migration of needed apps. I downloaded MM from thr Freron server. I copied ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate from the old boot volume (Sierra) to the new boot volume (Catalina). After launching MM and providing all the email account passwords, MM put up this message: “MailMate failed to save a file to disk” < https://imgur.com/a/jdBs3iI > Apparently there is an alias to the messages in the MailMate folder which can’t be resolved. I navigated to the old Sierra boot disk (while still booted into Catalina) and double-clicked on the alias. A System error message was displayed saying the original item couldn’t be located. Suggestions? Short answer: Finder:File->Get Info on the old alias, look for "Original" field. That directory is the REAL Messages folder, in the context where the Sierra volume is mounted at the root. Find that directory on the Sierra volume and copy it to the analogous place on the new disk. Long answer: True Finder Aliases should not break like that, but the Finder will present "symbolic link" files (part of the Unix heritage, a.k.a. 'symlinks') as aliases despite the fact that they technically aren't the same. Symlinks are fragile because they hold only a pathname, which can be absolute and hence dependent on where a volume is mounted, or relative and so dependent on the current working directory when resolved. They are generally NOT followed when copying, as they are frequently used as a tactic for disk space management. At some point, you set your Messages to live somewhere accessible (Preferences->General) and MailMate created a symlink in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/ to the absolute pathname of wherever you set the real folder to live. Copying broke the link, which is most likely rooted in /Users/yourusername/ (which is now your home dir on the Catalina volume.) -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Migrating MM
I’m creating a new boot volume (Catalina) and doing a minimal, manual migration of needed apps. I downloaded MM from thr Freron server. I copied ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate from the old boot volume (Sierra) to the new boot volume (Catalina). After launching MM and providing all the email account passwords, MM put up this message: “MailMate failed to save a file to disk” < https://imgur.com/a/jdBs3iI > Apparently there is an alias to the messages in the MailMate folder which can’t be resolved. I navigated to the old Sierra boot disk (while still booted into Catalina) and double-clicked on the alias. A System error message was displayed saying the original item couldn’t be located. Suggestions? I sent this to Benny but he seems to be not available. Thanks, Dave MailMate 1.12.2 (r5673) macOS 10.15.7 Catalina 2012 Intel mini quad i7, 16GB ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate