Re: [MlMt] None of the keyboard shortcuts working Handholding please

2023-06-08 Thread John Cooper
Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 5:59 AM on Sunday, June 4, 2023):

> I think I’m missing the standard.plist file. At least I can’t find it.

The standard.plist file is inside the application bundle where it's not easily 
messed with:

Macintosh HD > Applications > MailMate.app > Contents > Resources > Keybindings 
> Standard.plist

On the Mac, applications are actually folders but don't display as such. 
There's an easy way to open them, but it's generally a bad idea. If you think 
something is corrupted or misconfigured inside the application bundle, it's 
best to reinstall the app.
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Re: [MlMt] None of the keyboard shortcuts working

2023-06-08 Thread John Cooper

Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 2:54 AM on Thursday, May 25, 2023):


hi

It’s driving me nuts. (When I focus on it.)  None of the keyboard 
shortcuts in MM work. They are all greyed out. [Here is a 
screenshot](https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqn3qcso7jnahhe/MM%20Shortcuts%20greyed.png?dl=0). 
It must be something simple as I can’t find anyone having a similar 
issue. I’ve looked and looked to find some checkbox?


Sorry for the very late response to this. I wanted to chime in and say 
that in my (fully functional) instance of MailMate 5964, my interface 
matches yours — that is, when I have a message selected (but not 
opened) in the message list and I open the Message menu, the keyboard 
shortcuts are all grayed out. However, as in your screenshot, the names 
of most commands are ***not*** grayed out, and the keyboard shortcuts 
for those commands do work, despite being grayed out in the menu. But 
for you, they don't work, is that right?


When working keyboard shortcuts appear grayed out in a menu, that is an 
interface bug, IMO.


Yes, I have Custom Keybindings Enabled with a special that I created 
to warn me when I send mail from this address. that’s it.


Something is getting in the way? I use Alfred and Hazel but not 
Keyboard Maestro or anything like that. Ideas?


Thanks
Annamarie
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Re: [MlMt] None of the keyboard shortcuts working Handholding please

2023-06-08 Thread Annamarie Pluhar

Hi

I’m deciding that an answer to my issue is to reinstall MM. I think 
I’m missing the standard.plist file. At least I can’t find it. (User 
error in creating keybindings?)


 So I shouldn’t copy over my /Library/Application Support/Mailmate 
folder since I’ll replicate my issue? But I have signatures and smart 
mailboxes and multiple accounts that I’d like to preserve so I do need 
to copy over these files? (all .plist)


Identities
Mailboxes
signatures
Managed/keychain

Is that right?
What about sources.plist?

Thanks for help - not a coder -
Annamarie

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On 31 May 2023, at 5:45, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:


HI Robert,

Thanks for this hint. I do have a plist file I had created (with help 
from this list!)I finally had the time and internet connectivity to 
try this. I don’t know Xcode but downloaded it and opened up the 
file “messageVerfications.plist” (warns me when I send an email 
out of my gmail account) Couldn’t see anything obvious (I’m not a 
programmer!) So I tried moving the file out of the library, rebooted 
my computer and I still have all MM keystrokes greyed out. So it’s 
not that file, right?


Other ideas?

thanks for help!

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802-579-5975

On 25 May 2023, at 10:30, Robert Goldman wrote:

I had a problem similar to this, and was only able to fix it after I 
opened one of my keybindings files, which was misbehaving, and edited 
it in Xcode. It was failing quietly and messing up lots of previously 
working bindings. My attempts to edit the file in a text editor 
didn't work because I was making quoting errors. When I used Xcode, 
the tool found my errors and I was able to fix them.


It would be nice if there was some logging or pop-up when something 
like this goes wrong so it's easier to find and fix.  If there's 
logging of plist loading failures, I couldn't find it.


Hope that helps,
R


On 25 May 2023, at 4:54, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:


hi

It’s driving me nuts. (When I focus on it.)  None of the keyboard 
shortcuts in MM work. They are all greyed out. [Here is a 
screenshot](https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqn3qcso7jnahhe/MM%20Shortcuts%20greyed.png?dl=0). 
It must be something simple as I can’t find anyone having a 
similar issue. I’ve looked and looked to find some checkbox?


Yes, I have Custom Keybindings Enabled with a special that I created 
to warn me when I send mail from this address. that’s it.


Something is getting in the way? I use Alfred and Hazel but not 
Keyboard Maestro or anything like that. Ideas?


Thanks
Annamarie

802-451-1941
802-579-5975
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Re: [MlMt] None of the keyboard shortcuts working

2023-05-31 Thread Annamarie Pluhar

HI Robert,

Thanks for this hint. I do have a plist file I had created (with help 
from this list!)I finally had the time and internet connectivity to try 
this. I don’t know Xcode but downloaded it and opened up the file 
“messageVerfications.plist” (warns me when I send an email out of my 
gmail account) Couldn’t see anything obvious (I’m not a programmer!) 
So I tried moving the file out of the library, rebooted my computer and 
I still have all MM keystrokes greyed out. So it’s not that file, 
right?


Other ideas?

thanks for help!

802-451-1941
802-579-5975

On 25 May 2023, at 10:30, Robert Goldman wrote:

I had a problem similar to this, and was only able to fix it after I 
opened one of my keybindings files, which was misbehaving, and edited 
it in Xcode. It was failing quietly and messing up lots of previously 
working bindings. My attempts to edit the file in a text editor didn't 
work because I was making quoting errors. When I used Xcode, the tool 
found my errors and I was able to fix them.


It would be nice if there was some logging or pop-up when something 
like this goes wrong so it's easier to find and fix.  If there's 
logging of plist loading failures, I couldn't find it.


Hope that helps,
R


On 25 May 2023, at 4:54, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:


hi

It’s driving me nuts. (When I focus on it.)  None of the keyboard 
shortcuts in MM work. They are all greyed out. [Here is a 
screenshot](https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqn3qcso7jnahhe/MM%20Shortcuts%20greyed.png?dl=0). 
It must be something simple as I can’t find anyone having a similar 
issue. I’ve looked and looked to find some checkbox?


Yes, I have Custom Keybindings Enabled with a special that I created 
to warn me when I send mail from this address. that’s it.


Something is getting in the way? I use Alfred and Hazel but not 
Keyboard Maestro or anything like that. Ideas?


Thanks
Annamarie

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802-579-5975
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Re: [MlMt] None of the keyboard shortcuts working

2023-05-25 Thread Robert Goldman
I had a problem similar to this, and was only able to fix it after I 
opened one of my keybindings files, which was misbehaving, and edited it 
in Xcode. It was failing quietly and messing up lots of previously 
working bindings. My attempts to edit the file in a text editor didn't 
work because I was making quoting errors. When I used Xcode, the tool 
found my errors and I was able to fix them.


It would be nice if there was some logging or pop-up when something 
like this goes wrong so it's easier to find and fix.  If there's logging 
of plist loading failures, I couldn't find it.


Hope that helps,
R


On 25 May 2023, at 4:54, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:


hi

It’s driving me nuts. (When I focus on it.)  None of the keyboard 
shortcuts in MM work. They are all greyed out. [Here is a 
screenshot](https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqn3qcso7jnahhe/MM%20Shortcuts%20greyed.png?dl=0). 
It must be something simple as I can’t find anyone having a similar 
issue. I’ve looked and looked to find some checkbox?


Yes, I have Custom Keybindings Enabled with a special that I created 
to warn me when I send mail from this address. that’s it.


Something is getting in the way? I use Alfred and Hazel but not 
Keyboard Maestro or anything like that. Ideas?


Thanks
Annamarie

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[MlMt] None of the keyboard shortcuts working

2023-05-25 Thread Annamarie Pluhar

hi

It’s driving me nuts. (When I focus on it.)  None of the keyboard 
shortcuts in MM work. They are all greyed out. [Here is a 
screenshot](https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqn3qcso7jnahhe/MM%20Shortcuts%20greyed.png?dl=0). 
It must be something simple as I can’t find anyone having a similar 
issue. I’ve looked and looked to find some checkbox?


Yes, I have Custom Keybindings Enabled with a special that I created to 
warn me when I send mail from this address. that’s it.


Something is getting in the way? I use Alfred and Hazel but not Keyboard 
Maestro or anything like that. Ideas?


Thanks
Annamarie

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