Re: [MlMt] PGP Usage & Untrusted Keys

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 3 Jan 2017, at 16:59, Robert M. Münch wrote:


On 3 Jan 2017, at 15:45, David Ledger wrote:

It also gives a heads-up as to why opening a list message from you 
makes MailMate become unresponsive for a full two minutes, eventually 
giving the error:


For the record, I do find it embarrassing that his happens on the main 
thread :)



with a ‘Show Details’ button. Clicking that gives
NEWSIG
ERRSIG E12C4810802DFEF0 1 10 01 1483446639 9
NO_PUBKEY E12C4810802DFEF0
after another two minutes, for the message I’m replying to.


Which indicates a time-out. Can you please re-try? The new key upload 
should already have spread to all the different key-servers.


This works for me now.

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Re: [MlMt] PGP Usage & Untrusted Keys

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 3 Jan 2017, at 13:30, Robert M. Münch wrote:

So, using "Trust Once" it seems the mail is send encrypted. But next 
time, the dialog comes back. I haven't seen any option to either 
"Trust this key" or a way to tell MM to send emails to untrusted keys 
as well.


Anything I'm missing?


Not in MailMate. I haven't implemented any way to “trust this key” 
permanently from within MailMate.


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Re: [MlMt] PGP Usage & Untrusted Keys

[David Ledger]

On 3 Jan 2017, at 15:59, Robert M. Münch wrote:


On 3 Jan 2017, at 15:45, David Ledger wrote:

If you signed and trusted the key yourself then that trust only 
applies to you, no-one else can have that trust. The message may be 
reflecting its ‘trustability’ by others.


Hi, the GPG Keychain shows it as fully trusted (which makes sense for 
my context) and would show it "untrusted" for others. Since I expect 
the same "check approach" it should yield "trusted" to MM as well.



It also gives a heads-up as to why opening a list message from you 
makes MailMate become unresponsive for a full two minutes, eventually 
giving the error:

Unable to verify signature for OpenPGP message.
No public key could be found for verifying the message signature.


Thanks, for the pointer. I just switched key-server and published my 
pubic-key. You can see it here:


http://pgp.zdv.uni-mainz.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex=robert.muench%40saphirion.com=on


with a ‘Show Details’ button. Clicking that gives
NEWSIG
ERRSIG E12C4810802DFEF0 1 10 01 1483446639 9
NO_PUBKEY E12C4810802DFEF0
after another two minutes, for the message I’m replying to.


Which indicates a time-out. Can you please re-try? The new key upload 
should already have spread to all the different key-servers.




I’m using GPG rather than OpenPGP if that matters.


Me too.

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I still get the same two minutes wait and the Details:
NEWSIG
ERRSIG E12C4810802DFEF0 1 10 01 1483459149 9
NO_PUBKEY E12C4810802DFEF0
although I can see your key at the site. Maybe I’m missing some key 
configuration.


David

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Re: [MlMt] PGP Usage & Untrusted Keys

[Robert M. Münch]

On 3 Jan 2017, at 15:45, David Ledger wrote:

> If you signed and trusted the key yourself then that trust only applies to 
> you, no-one else can have that trust. The message may be reflecting its 
> ‘trustability’ by others.

Hi, the GPG Keychain shows it as fully trusted (which makes sense for my 
context) and would show it "untrusted" for others. Since I expect the same 
"check approach" it should yield "trusted" to MM as well.


> It also gives a heads-up as to why opening a list message from you makes 
> MailMate become unresponsive for a full two minutes, eventually giving the 
> error:
>   Unable to verify signature for OpenPGP message.
>   No public key could be found for verifying the message signature.

Thanks, for the pointer. I just switched key-server and published my pubic-key. 
You can see it here:

http://pgp.zdv.uni-mainz.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex=robert.muench%40saphirion.com=on

> with a ‘Show Details’ button. Clicking that gives
>   NEWSIG
>   ERRSIG E12C4810802DFEF0 1 10 01 1483446639 9
>   NO_PUBKEY E12C4810802DFEF0
> after another two minutes, for the message I’m replying to.

Which indicates a time-out. Can you please re-try? The new key upload should 
already have spread to all the different key-servers.


> I’m using GPG rather than OpenPGP if that matters.

Me too.

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M: +41 79 65 11 49 6

Saphirion AG
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http://www.saphirion.com
http://www.nlpp.ch


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Re: [MlMt] PGP Usage & Untrusted Keys

[David Ledger]

On 3 Jan 2017, at 12:30, Robert M. Münch wrote:

Hi, I'm using PGP and I get the following message when sending an 
encrypted email in a dialog with a "Trust Once" button:


USERID_HINT E12C4810802DFEF0 Robert M. Münch 


NEED_PASSPHRASE E12C4810802DFEF0 7553390AF5349968 1 0
GOOD_PASSPHRASE
INV_RECP 10 
FAILURE sign-encrypt 53

Looks like this is a log output. I'm wondering about the "INV_RECP 10" 
which means that the key is not trusted. But I signed and trusted the 
key (locally), so it should be trusted.


So, using "Trust Once" it seems the mail is send encrypted. But next 
time, the dialog comes back. I haven't seen any option to either 
"Trust this key" or a way to tell MM to send emails to untrusted keys 
as well.


Anything I'm missing?

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M: +41 79 65 11 49 6

Saphirion AG
smarter | better | faster

http://www.saphirion.com
http://www.nlpp.ch



If you signed and trusted the key yourself then that trust only applies 
to you, no-one else can have that trust. The message may be reflecting 
its ‘trustability’ by others.


It also gives a heads-up as to why opening a list message from you makes 
MailMate become unresponsive for a full two minutes, eventually giving 
the error:

Unable to verify signature for OpenPGP message.
No public key could be found for verifying the message signature.
with a ‘Show Details’ button. Clicking that gives
NEWSIG
ERRSIG E12C4810802DFEF0 1 10 01 1483446639 9
NO_PUBKEY E12C4810802DFEF0
after another two minutes, for the message I’m replying to.

I’m using GPG rather than OpenPGP if that matters.
MailMate 1.9.6 (5319), OSX 10.11.6

David

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[MlMt] PGP Usage & Untrusted Keys

[Robert M. Münch]

Hi, I'm using PGP and I get the following message when sending an encrypted 
email in a dialog with a "Trust Once" button:

USERID_HINT E12C4810802DFEF0 Robert M. Münch 
NEED_PASSPHRASE E12C4810802DFEF0 7553390AF5349968 1 0
GOOD_PASSPHRASE
INV_RECP 10 
FAILURE sign-encrypt 53

Looks like this is a log output. I'm wondering about the "INV_RECP 10" which 
means that the key is not trusted. But I signed and trusted the key (locally), 
so it should be trusted.

So, using "Trust Once" it seems the mail is send encrypted. But next time, the 
dialog comes back. I haven't seen any option to either "Trust this key" or a 
way to tell MM to send emails to untrusted keys as well.

Anything I'm missing?

-- 

Robert M. Münch, CEO
M: +41 79 65 11 49 6

Saphirion AG
smarter | better | faster

http://www.saphirion.com
http://www.nlpp.ch


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