subject:"\[MlMt\] Weird annoyance"

Re: [MlMt] Weird annoyance

2019-10-18 Thread Annamarie Pluhar


It finally fixed itself and I don’t know why…

Annamarie

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802-451-1941
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On 18 Oct 2019, at 10:56, Robert Brenstein wrote:

For people who do not feel secure editing raw prefs files, I can 
recommend “Prefs Editor 2” app. Editing prefs is safe as long as 
MailMate is not running. You may also try to reposition and resize 
window then quit and relaunch MM or the same plus fill out and save 
then quit and relaunch. MM should at some point write the new position 
into the prefs file.


On 18 Oct 2019, at 14:02, Tobias Jung wrote:

In my experience in cases like this, it often helps to delete the 
preferences file.
However, yo do lose ALL the settings then which is usually not very 
pleasant.


So let me suggest another approach.
Download PrefsEditor
http://apps.tempel.org/PrefsEditor/index.php

After you’ve opened the app, open the file 
com.freron.MailMate.plist.

Look for the key "NSWindow Frame MMComposer".
In my case, the corresponding value is "734 146 722 760 0 0 1920 
1057". The first four figures seem to be related to x- and 
y-position, width and height.
They do no match exactly here. I guess for example, counting the 
y-position start below macOS’s menu line (which makes sense). The 
height value is somewhat smaller than the actual window height 
(33px).


I guess modifying these values will do the trick
BUT!!!
Please don’t do it until someone here confirmed it’s a safe thing 
to do. I don’t know if this really works and I’d hate to be 
responsible if this screws up you preference file.


For the moment, you at least can look at those values and see if they 
correspond to your composer window’s position and size.


Hope this helps,
Tobias Jung



On 18 Oct 2019, at 13:32, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

Well after quite a few tries at this - MM now open the new draft 
pane in the middle of my screen but it is still quite narrow….



Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 18 Oct 2019, at 7:20, Edward Thome wrote:

I am not sure why that would have started, but now it might of that 
as the
default. The next time that you move and resize the window, 
immediately
close the window and open a new one. If that one is also skinny and 
to the
side, relocate and resize it and then close it and open a new 
window.
Usually (on a Mac) doing that once will reset the default window 
size and
position as long as you close the window before it is used in any 
way.


All the best,
Ed




--
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 5:08 AM, Annamarie Pluhar <
annamarie.plu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not quite. I took a screen shot: Link here

See how the new window is way over to the right and narrow?

I always move it into the middle and widen it. But this has been 
going on

for some days now.

Never seen this before and I’ve been a MM user for 6? 8? Years.

Annamarie

Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 17 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Maybe that's the preview window?

When i write a mesage text and then MM see it can be an Markdown 
then MM

open a preview window under the message box

Von meinem iDingens gesendet...

Am 18.10.2019 um 04:12 schrieb John Cooper 
:


Move it somewhere else?

Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it 
closed.


Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019):

Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I 
want to
write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side 
of my

screen. How do I correct this behavior?

Any ideas?
Thanks


Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)
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Re: [MlMt] Weird annoyance

2019-10-18 Thread Robert Brenstein

For people who do not feel secure editing raw prefs files, I can 
recommend “Prefs Editor 2” app. Editing prefs is safe as long as 
MailMate is not running. You may also try to reposition and resize 
window then quit and relaunch MM or the same plus fill out and save then 
quit and relaunch. MM should at some point write the new position into 
the prefs file.


On 18 Oct 2019, at 14:02, Tobias Jung wrote:

In my experience in cases like this, it often helps to delete the 
preferences file.
However, yo do lose ALL the settings then which is usually not very 
pleasant.


So let me suggest another approach.
Download PrefsEditor
http://apps.tempel.org/PrefsEditor/index.php

After you’ve opened the app, open the file 
com.freron.MailMate.plist.

Look for the key "NSWindow Frame MMComposer".
In my case, the corresponding value is "734 146 722 760 0 0 1920 
1057". The first four figures seem to be related to x- and y-position, 
width and height.
They do no match exactly here. I guess for example, counting the 
y-position start below macOS’s menu line (which makes sense). The 
height value is somewhat smaller than the actual window height (33px).


I guess modifying these values will do the trick
BUT!!!
Please don’t do it until someone here confirmed it’s a safe thing 
to do. I don’t know if this really works and I’d hate to be 
responsible if this screws up you preference file.


For the moment, you at least can look at those values and see if they 
correspond to your composer window’s position and size.


Hope this helps,
Tobias Jung



On 18 Oct 2019, at 13:32, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

Well after quite a few tries at this - MM now open the new draft pane 
in the middle of my screen but it is still quite narrow….



Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 18 Oct 2019, at 7:20, Edward Thome wrote:

I am not sure why that would have started, but now it might of that 
as the
default. The next time that you move and resize the window, 
immediately
close the window and open a new one. If that one is also skinny and 
to the
side, relocate and resize it and then close it and open a new 
window.
Usually (on a Mac) doing that once will reset the default window 
size and
position as long as you close the window before it is used in any 
way.


All the best,
Ed




--
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 5:08 AM, Annamarie Pluhar <
annamarie.plu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not quite. I took a screen shot: Link here

See how the new window is way over to the right and narrow?

I always move it into the middle and widen it. But this has been 
going on

for some days now.

Never seen this before and I’ve been a MM user for 6? 8? Years.

Annamarie

Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 17 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Maybe that's the preview window?

When i write a mesage text and then MM see it can be an Markdown 
then MM

open a preview window under the message box

Von meinem iDingens gesendet...

Am 18.10.2019 um 04:12 schrieb John Cooper 
:


Move it somewhere else?

Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it 
closed.


Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019):

Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I 
want to
write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side 
of my

screen. How do I correct this behavior?

Any ideas?
Thanks


Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)
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Re: [MlMt] Weird annoyance

2019-10-18 Thread Tobias Jung

In my experience in cases like this, it often helps to delete the 
preferences file.
However, yo do lose ALL the settings then which is usually not very 
pleasant.


So let me suggest another approach.
Download PrefsEditor
http://apps.tempel.org/PrefsEditor/index.php

After you’ve opened the app, open the file com.freron.MailMate.plist.
Look for the key "NSWindow Frame MMComposer".
In my case, the corresponding value is "734 146 722 760 0 0 1920 1057". 
The first four figures seem to be related to x- and y-position, width 
and height.
They do no match exactly here. I guess for example, counting the 
y-position start below macOS’s menu line (which makes sense). The 
height value is somewhat smaller than the actual window height (33px).


I guess modifying these values will do the trick
BUT!!!
Please don’t do it until someone here confirmed it’s a safe thing to 
do. I don’t know if this really works and I’d hate to be responsible 
if this screws up you preference file.


For the moment, you at least can look at those values and see if they 
correspond to your composer window’s position and size.


Hope this helps,
Tobias Jung



On 18 Oct 2019, at 13:32, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

Well after quite a few tries at this - MM now open the new draft pane 
in the middle of my screen but it is still quite narrow….



Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 18 Oct 2019, at 7:20, Edward Thome wrote:

I am not sure why that would have started, but now it might of that 
as the
default. The next time that you move and resize the window, 
immediately
close the window and open a new one. If that one is also skinny and 
to the

side, relocate and resize it and then close it and open a new window.
Usually (on a Mac) doing that once will reset the default window size 
and
position as long as you close the window before it is used in any 
way.


All the best,
Ed




--
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 5:08 AM, Annamarie Pluhar <
annamarie.plu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not quite. I took a screen shot: Link here

See how the new window is way over to the right and narrow?

I always move it into the middle and widen it. But this has been 
going on

for some days now.

Never seen this before and I’ve been a MM user for 6? 8? Years.

Annamarie

Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 17 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Maybe that's the preview window?

When i write a mesage text and then MM see it can be an Markdown then 
MM

open a preview window under the message box

Von meinem iDingens gesendet...

Am 18.10.2019 um 04:12 schrieb John Cooper 
:


Move it somewhere else?

Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it closed.

Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019):

Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I want 
to
write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side 
of my

screen. How do I correct this behavior?

Any ideas?
Thanks


Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)
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Re: [MlMt] Weird annoyance

2019-10-18 Thread Annamarie Pluhar

Well after quite a few tries at this - MM now open the new draft pane in 
the middle of my screen but it is still quite narrow….



Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 18 Oct 2019, at 7:20, Edward Thome wrote:

I am not sure why that would have started, but now it might of that as 
the
default. The next time that you move and resize the window, 
immediately
close the window and open a new one. If that one is also skinny and to 
the

side, relocate and resize it and then close it and open a new window.
Usually (on a Mac) doing that once will reset the default window size 
and

position as long as you close the window before it is used in any way.

All the best,
Ed




--
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 5:08 AM, Annamarie Pluhar <
annamarie.plu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not quite. I took a screen shot: Link here

See how the new window is way over to the right and narrow?

I always move it into the middle and widen it. But this has been going 
on

for some days now.

Never seen this before and I’ve been a MM user for 6? 8? Years.

Annamarie

Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 17 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Maybe that's the preview window?

When i write a mesage text and then MM see it can be an Markdown then 
MM

open a preview window under the message box

Von meinem iDingens gesendet...

Am 18.10.2019 um 04:12 schrieb John Cooper 
:


Move it somewhere else?

Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it closed.

Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019):

Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I want 
to
write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side of 
my

screen. How do I correct this behavior?

Any ideas?
Thanks


Annamarie Pluhar
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Re: [MlMt] Weird annoyance

2019-10-18 Thread Edward Thome

I am not sure why that would have started, but now it might of that as the
default. The next time that you move and resize the window, immediately
close the window and open a new one. If that one is also skinny and to the
side, relocate and resize it and then close it and open a new window.
Usually (on a Mac) doing that once will reset the default window size and
position as long as you close the window before it is used in any way.

All the best,
Ed




--
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 5:08 AM, Annamarie Pluhar <
annamarie.plu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not quite. I took a screen shot: Link here

See how the new window is way over to the right and narrow?

I always move it into the middle and widen it. But this has been going on
for some days now.

Never seen this before and I’ve been a MM user for 6? 8? Years.

Annamarie

Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 17 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Maybe that's the preview window?

When i write a mesage text and then MM see it can be an Markdown then MM
open a preview window under the message box

Von meinem iDingens gesendet...

Am 18.10.2019 um 04:12 schrieb John Cooper :

Move it somewhere else?

Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it closed.

Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019):

Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I want to
write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side of my
screen. How do I correct this behavior?

Any ideas?
Thanks


Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
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Not quite. I took a screen shot: Link [here
](https://www.dropbox.com/s/ai1459lur57e0sb/Screen%20Shot%202019-10-18%20at%206.03.48%20AM.png?dl=0)
See how the new window is way over to the right and narrow?

I always move it into the middle and widen it. But this has been going
on for some days now.

Never seen this before and I’ve been a MM user for 6? 8? Years.

Annamarie

Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 17 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Maybe that's the preview window?

When i write a mesage text and then MM see it can be an Markdown then
MM open a preview window under the message box

Von meinem iDingens gesendet...

Am 18.10.2019 um 04:12 schrieb John Cooper
:

Move it somewhere else?

Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it closed.

Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019):

Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I
want to write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the
right side of my screen. How do I correct this behavior?

Any ideas?
Thanks

Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
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Re: [MlMt] Weird annoyance

2019-10-17 Thread Michael Nietzold

Maybe that's the preview window?

When i write a mesage text and then MM see it can be an Markdown then MM open a 
preview window under the message box

Von meinem iDingens gesendet...

> Am 18.10.2019 um 04:12 schrieb John Cooper :
> 
> Move it somewhere else?
> 
> Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it closed.
> 
> Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019):
> 
>> Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I want to write 
>> an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side of my screen. 
>> How do I correct this behavior?
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
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>> 802-451-1941
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Re: [MlMt] Weird annoyance

2019-10-17 Thread John Cooper


Move it somewhere else?

Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it closed.

Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019):

Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I want 
to write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side 
of my screen. How do I correct this behavior?


Any ideas?
Thanks


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[MlMt] Weird annoyance

2019-10-17 Thread Annamarie Pluhar

Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I want to 
write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side of 
my screen. How do I correct this behavior?


Any ideas?
Thanks


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