Re: [MlMt] composer window placement

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 4 Aug 2016, at 16:17, John Muccigrosso wrote:

PS My message Windows now open up in the far right bottom. Not sure 
why.


What happens if you move it, close it, and then reopen it? (MailMate 
should remember the most recent position of the window.)


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Re: [MlMt] composer window placement

[Robert Brenstein]

On 04.08.2016 at 10:17 Uhr -0400 John Muccigrosso apparently wrote:
As long as the window doesn't actually hit up against the edge of 
the screen. Always leave a gap.


Yes.


PS My message Windows now open up in the far right bottom. Not sure why.


Sounds like MM remembers the last window position and re-uses it.

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Re: [MlMt] composer window placement

[John Muccigrosso]

On Aug 4, 2016, at 09:59, Robert Brenstein  wrote:
> 
>> On 04.08.2016 at 15:38 Uhr +0200 Benny Kjær Nielsen apparently wrote:
>> 
>> In any case, I might have to drop some of my code for this and for 
>> storing/restoring window positions between launches. If possible I'll use 
>> the default OS X behavior instead (although I've had issues with this in the 
>> past which is what originally led me to roll out my own handling).
> 
> I think the current staggering is fine. It gets confusing only once the 
> windows get into the right bottom corner since the windows keep opening then 
> on top of previous window. You may want to add code to shift the next window 
> position to where the first window was once the current window comes close 
> enough to both bottom and right edges, then use the same staggering pattern 
> again, wrapping again if needed.
> 
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As long as the window doesn't actually hit up against the edge of the screen. 
Always leave a gap.

PS My message Windows now open up in the far right bottom. Not sure why.
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Re: [MlMt] composer window placement

[Robert Brenstein]

On 04.08.2016 at 15:38 Uhr +0200 Benny Kjær Nielsen apparently wrote:


In any case, I might have to drop some of my 
code for this and for storing/restoring window 
positions between launches. If possible I'll use 
the default OS X behavior instead (although I've 
had issues with this in the past which is what 
originally led me to roll out my own handling).




I think the current staggering is fine. It gets 
confusing only once the windows get into the 
right bottom corner since the windows keep 
opening then on top of previous window. You may 
want to add code to shift the next window 
position to where the first window was once the 
current window comes close enough to both bottom 
and right edges, then use the same staggering 
pattern again, wrapping again if needed.


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Re: [MlMt] composer window placement

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 3 Aug 2016, at 17:43, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:

Another option would be to open a new message window in the same place 
every time, if there are no other message windows open. Again, this is 
what Mail.app seems to do.


If no window of the same type is open then MailMate should also open the 
new one in the same place as the last one.


In any case, I might have to drop some of my code for this and for 
storing/restoring window positions between launches. If possible I'll 
use the default OS X behavior instead (although I've had issues with 
this in the past which is what originally led me to roll out my own 
handling).


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Re: [MlMt] composer window placement

[John D. Muccigrosso]

On 3 Aug 2016, at 9:43, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 2 Aug 2016, at 1:23, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:

New-message windows in MM2 seem to get placed a little right and 
lower than the previous one, until one gets as far right and down as 
possible and then they stay there. Makes me think they’re going 
off-screen.


But they're not, right?


No, they’re not, but without the space between the window and the edge 
of the screen, at first glance they look like they are. For comparison, 
Mail.app restarts the positioning when there’s still some space left 
between the window and the edge of the screen.


I’d prefer MM2 to remember where I placed one the last time and 
always use that. Or at least restart the placement (as I think 
Mail.app does).


The “cascading” should only happen if you already have a window 
open of the same type, but for you it always happens? (That's a bug 
and it does not appear to be reproducible for me.)


No, it happens with more than one window, but stops happening when the 
window reaches the edge of the screen. For example, Cmd-N opens a new 
window. Repeat for another new one and it’s down and to the right a 
bit. Keep doing that until the window hits the bottom of the screen. Now 
new windows will start moving right, but still all the way at the 
bottom. Finally a window hits the right of the screen and new windows 
just stay there. Same thing with messages I’m reading.


The desired behavior is what Mail.app does: when opening multiple 
windows, move over and right until _close_ to the edge and then the 
corner, and then restart positioning from upper-left somewhere.


Another option would be to open a new message window in the same place 
every time, if there are no other message windows open. Again, this is 
what Mail.app seems to do.



I have also found myself with windows opening in the far bottom-right. 
I’m not sure how to reproduce that right now, but will re-post when I 
get it.


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Re: [MlMt] composer window placement

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 2 Aug 2016, at 1:23, John D. Muccigrosso wrote:

New-message windows in MM2 seem to get placed a little right and lower 
than the previous one, until one gets as far right and down as 
possible and then they stay there. Makes me think they’re going 
off-screen.


But they're not, right?

I’d prefer MM2 to remember where I placed one the last time and 
always use that. Or at least restart the placement (as I think 
Mail.app does).


The “cascading” should only happen if you already have a window open 
of the same type, but for you it always happens? (That's a bug and it 
does not appear to be reproducible for me.)


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Re: [MlMt] composer window placement

[John D. Muccigrosso]

Should have added that this happens with messages I’m reading too. 
Same feeling about it.


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[MlMt] composer window placement

[John D. Muccigrosso]

New-message windows in MM2 seem to get placed a little right and lower 
than the previous one, until one gets as far right and down as possible 
and then they stay there. Makes me think they’re going off-screen. 
I’d prefer MM2 to remember where I placed one the last time and always 
use that. Or at least restart the placement (as I think Mail.app does).


Thanks.

John
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