Re: [MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor
On 3 May 2016, at 13:46, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: The docs are (of course) based on Markdown already. I could probably put the documents online pretty easily, but the HTML generation might not be so easily extracted from the build system. I guess that is not essential though. I'll look into it. Here are the Markdown files for the manual: https://github.com/mailmate/mailmate_manual Note that these files are the most recent ones. A few features are described which are currently only available in a closed beta of MailMate. That might be a bit confusing (I think this mainly applies to the composer section of the preferences chapter). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor
On 2 May 2016, at 21:54, Sherif Soliman wrote: On 2 May 2016, at 3:45, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Any thoughts about making the docs based on markdown/asciidoc and put on github and we could help make the docs better faster ? That would be pretty great. I would put some time into adding to it if that happens. I could even put some time into Markdown-ifying the current documentation if Benny says he's open to the idea of migrating it to a GitHub repo. The docs are (of course) based on Markdown already. I could probably put the documents online pretty easily, but the HTML generation might not be so easily extracted from the build system. I guess that is not essential though. I'll look into it. (If I remember correctly then I'm currently using multimarkdown.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor
On 2 May 2016, at 3:45, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 24 Apr 2016, at 8:56, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 22 Apr 2016, at 19:17, John Cooper wrote: Howard Wettstein wrote (at 22:53 on 21 Apr 2016): I’m trying to set up smart folders but find some of the syntax )(a lot of it) hard to follow, I mean in the drop-down lists. Is there someplace I can find more or less detailed explanations? This bothers me a lot, too. So much power, and so little information! The documentation could certainly be improved. As you might expect, many of the undocumented details have been added to MailMate after I wrote the documentation. As Gary wrote in a separate reply: The Smart Mailboxes feature is so powerful and Byzantine that you often just have to ask Bennie here or by e-mail if some specific task can be done, and he'll say yes or no. It might be a comfort to some that my Inbox is “punished” for the lack of detailed documentation :-) I'm a pretty good reference sleuth, but I don't know how to even begin to decipher these, among many others: Source > Path > Noinbox This is a hack to get around IMAP weirdness. Some IMAP servers place all mailboxes under INBOX in the mailbox hierarchy, e.g., it's `INBOX/Archive` instead of just `Archive`. The “Noinbox” specifier gets rid of the `INBOX` prefix which can be useful for various format strings used elsewhere (message list column, smart mailbox submailboxes, counter notifications). Usually, you would not need it. Date > » Local > Formatted [why the chevrons? Formatted how?] Local is a special selector which converts a date to the local time zone. “Formatted” is also for use in format strings and is kind of an implementation leak -- at least in the smart mailbox editor and/or in searches. Most of the time you should only need to simply use “Date” and its comparison methods (the popup after the date). Subject > Blob This is a word I got from an old RFC (standards document). It's the string often used for mailing lists to state the list name in the subject. For example, it would be “MlMt” in “[MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor”. Any Address > » Identity [or » Correspondent] > User > Notag Identity/Correspondent are relatively new additions. They allow you to reduce the set of matched addresses to your own identities (email addresses found in your IMAP account settings to belong to you). So, “Identity” is your address and “Correspondent” is *not* your address. This could, e.g., be used to only match messages which have one of your addresses in a recipient header: “Recipient ▸ Identity exists”. I hope that helps a bit. I'll note that this information should be added to the documentation when I have time extend it. Any thoughts about making the docs based on markdown/asciidoc and put on github and we could help make the docs better faster ? Just a suggestion ;) That would be pretty great. I would put some time into adding to it if that happens. I could even put some time into Markdown-ifying the current documentation if Benny says he's open to the idea of migrating it to a GitHub repo. Sherif ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor
On 24 Apr 2016, at 8:56, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 22 Apr 2016, at 19:17, John Cooper wrote: Howard Wettstein wrote (at 22:53 on 21 Apr 2016): I’m trying to set up smart folders but find some of the syntax )(a lot of it) hard to follow, I mean in the drop-down lists. Is there someplace I can find more or less detailed explanations? This bothers me a lot, too. So much power, and so little information! The documentation could certainly be improved. As you might expect, many of the undocumented details have been added to MailMate after I wrote the documentation. As Gary wrote in a separate reply: The Smart Mailboxes feature is so powerful and Byzantine that you often just have to ask Bennie here or by e-mail if some specific task can be done, and he'll say yes or no. It might be a comfort to some that my Inbox is “punished” for the lack of detailed documentation :-) I'm a pretty good reference sleuth, but I don't know how to even begin to decipher these, among many others: Source > Path > Noinbox This is a hack to get around IMAP weirdness. Some IMAP servers place all mailboxes under INBOX in the mailbox hierarchy, e.g., it's `INBOX/Archive` instead of just `Archive`. The “Noinbox” specifier gets rid of the `INBOX` prefix which can be useful for various format strings used elsewhere (message list column, smart mailbox submailboxes, counter notifications). Usually, you would not need it. Date > » Local > Formatted [why the chevrons? Formatted how?] Local is a special selector which converts a date to the local time zone. “Formatted” is also for use in format strings and is kind of an implementation leak -- at least in the smart mailbox editor and/or in searches. Most of the time you should only need to simply use “Date” and its comparison methods (the popup after the date). Subject > Blob This is a word I got from an old RFC (standards document). It's the string often used for mailing lists to state the list name in the subject. For example, it would be “MlMt” in “[MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor”. Any Address > » Identity [or » Correspondent] > User > Notag Identity/Correspondent are relatively new additions. They allow you to reduce the set of matched addresses to your own identities (email addresses found in your IMAP account settings to belong to you). So, “Identity” is your address and “Correspondent” is *not* your address. This could, e.g., be used to only match messages which have one of your addresses in a recipient header: “Recipient ▸ Identity exists”. I hope that helps a bit. I'll note that this information should be added to the documentation when I have time extend it. Any thoughts about making the docs based on markdown/asciidoc and put on github and we could help make the docs better faster ? Just a suggestion ;) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor
On 22 Apr 2016, at 19:17, John Cooper wrote: Howard Wettstein wrote (at 22:53 on 21 Apr 2016): I’m trying to set up smart folders but find some of the syntax )(a lot of it) hard to follow, I mean in the drop-down lists. Is there someplace I can find more or less detailed explanations? This bothers me a lot, too. So much power, and so little information! The documentation could certainly be improved. As you might expect, many of the undocumented details have been added to MailMate after I wrote the documentation. As Gary wrote in a separate reply: The Smart Mailboxes feature is so powerful and Byzantine that you often just have to ask Bennie here or by e-mail if some specific task can be done, and he'll say yes or no. It might be a comfort to some that my Inbox is “punished” for the lack of detailed documentation :-) I'm a pretty good reference sleuth, but I don't know how to even begin to decipher these, among many others: Source > Path > Noinbox This is a hack to get around IMAP weirdness. Some IMAP servers place all mailboxes under INBOX in the mailbox hierarchy, e.g., it's `INBOX/Archive` instead of just `Archive`. The “Noinbox” specifier gets rid of the `INBOX` prefix which can be useful for various format strings used elsewhere (message list column, smart mailbox submailboxes, counter notifications). Usually, you would not need it. Date > » Local > Formatted [why the chevrons? Formatted how?] Local is a special selector which converts a date to the local time zone. “Formatted” is also for use in format strings and is kind of an implementation leak -- at least in the smart mailbox editor and/or in searches. Most of the time you should only need to simply use “Date” and its comparison methods (the popup after the date). Subject > Blob This is a word I got from an old RFC (standards document). It's the string often used for mailing lists to state the list name in the subject. For example, it would be “MlMt” in “[MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor”. Any Address > » Identity [or » Correspondent] > User > Notag Identity/Correspondent are relatively new additions. They allow you to reduce the set of matched addresses to your own identities (email addresses found in your IMAP account settings to belong to you). So, “Identity” is your address and “Correspondent” is *not* your address. This could, e.g., be used to only match messages which have one of your addresses in a recipient header: “Recipient ▸ Identity exists”. I hope that helps a bit. I'll note that this information should be added to the documentation when I have time extend it. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor
Bingo. No idea. On 22 Apr 2016, at 10:17, John Cooper wrote: Howard Wettstein wrote (at 22:53 on 21 Apr 2016): I’m trying to set up smart folders but find some of the syntax )(a lot of it) hard to follow, I mean in the drop-down lists. Is there someplace I can find more or less detailed explanations? This bothers me a lot, too. So much power, and so little information! I'm a pretty good reference sleuth, but I don't know how to even begin to decipher these, among many others: Source > Path > Noinbox Date > » Local > Formatted [why the chevrons? Formatted how?] Subject > Blob Any Address > » Identity [or » Correspondent] > User > Notag ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor
Howard Wettstein wrote (at 22:53 on 21 Apr 2016): I’m trying to set up smart folders but find some of the syntax )(a lot of it) hard to follow, I mean in the drop-down lists. Is there someplace I can find more or less detailed explanations? This bothers me a lot, too. So much power, and so little information! I'm a pretty good reference sleuth, but I don't know how to even begin to decipher these, among many others: Source > Path > Noinbox Date > » Local > Formatted [why the chevrons? Formatted how?] Subject > Blob Any Address > » Identity [or » Correspondent] > User > Notag ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor
On 22 Apr 2016, at 14:53, Howard Wettstein wrote:
I’m trying to set up smart folders but find some of the syntax )(a
lot of it) hard to follow, I mean in the drop-down lists. Is there
someplace I can find more or less detailed explanations? Thanks very
much.
Perhaps if you describe a specific task you want to accomplish with
smart folders, we can lead you through it.
For instance, I made one to throw a particularly galling kind of spam
(that SpamSieve can't catch) in the trash so I never see it:
After creating a Smart Mailbox, and right-clicking to choose Edit:
Tab 1: Mailboxes:
-- I chose ANY and chose the INBOXes of two accounts that received the
problematic spam
Tab 2: Conditions:
-- These are global conditions. I chose ANY and used the following
patterns
- Any Address > Domain / is
- Unquoted Body Text / contains
- Subject / contains
and pasted in the text to match, mostly street addresses for the outfit
that constantly changed.
Tab 3: Submailboxes:
I'm throwing stuff in the trash here, so there's nothing in the Smart
Mailbox, but if I were collecting, for instance, mail from workmates, I
could click SUBMAILBOX FOR EACH UNIQUE VALUE OF, and choose an
appropriate value (name, e-mail address, whatever) to sort the contents.
This is good for your JUNK folder also, because I for my main email
address I like to check the Junk from time to time (it doesn't get
much), but I don't want to wade through junk for other accounts.
Tab 4: Rules
Here I clicked the plus sign and chose:
-- Move to mailbox / Deleted Messages ("Move to Trash")
-- Set Tag / Seen ("Mark as Read")
The Smart Mailboxes feature is so powerful and Byzantine that you often
just have to ask Bennie here or by e-mail if some specific task can be
done, and he'll say yes or no.
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[MlMt] syntax in smart folders editor
I’m trying to set up smart folders but find some of the syntax )(a lot of it) hard to follow, I mean in the drop-down lists. Is there someplace I can find more or less detailed explanations? Thanks very much. Howie ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
