Re: [MlMt] system alert sound randomly occurring when selecting messages in MM

2020-10-25 Thread Eric Sharakan

On 25 Oct 2020, at 16:59, Alexandre Takacs wrote:


On 25 Oct 2020, at 20:50, Eric Sharakan wrote:

It does sound like Lisa and I are describing two different issues.  
In my case, no menu item highlights, and no other App grabs the 
focus.  MM simply beeps at me when I select certain messages.  
Restarting MM resolves the issue, at least for a period of time.


I am "seeing" something similar here - does MM still accept _any_ form 
of keyboard input for you ?




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For me, MM remains completely responsive to all my inputs; it's just an 
unexpected alert sound, that's all.


Thanks.

-Eric
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Re: [MlMt] system alert sound randomly occurring when selecting messages in MM

2020-10-25 Thread Alexandre Takacs

On 25 Oct 2020, at 20:50, Eric Sharakan wrote:

It does sound like Lisa and I are describing two different issues.  In 
my case, no menu item highlights, and no other App grabs the focus.  
MM simply beeps at me when I select certain messages.  Restarting MM 
resolves the issue, at least for a period of time.


I am "seeing" something similar here - does MM still accept _any_ form 
of keyboard input for you ?




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Re: [MlMt] system alert sound randomly occurring when selecting messages in MM

2020-10-25 Thread Eric Sharakan

On 25 Oct 2020, at 14:45, Glenn Parker wrote:


On 25 Oct 2020, at 13:46, Lisa Sieverts wrote:


Eric Sharakan  said:

Hi, has anyone else noticed this odd behavior: sometime MailMate 
will emit the system alert sound when I select certain messages for 
viewing.  I don't see anything unusual about the messages it chooses 
to do this with, and the behavior goes away (but eventually returns) 
if I restart MM.


YES I have seen this behavior every day. Since I don’t have sound 
on for alerts, the thing I notice is that as I’m going through my 
Inbox, every so often instead of a down arrow (or N/P with my key 
bindings) moving me to the next message, what I see is that the Apple 
Menu has been highlighted and opened instead. I have to click away 
from that and then highlight my next message in Mailmate and at that 
point I can work normally until the next time it happens. I see this 
behavior at least 2x and up to 10+ times in a typical day. I’d love 
to be able to stop this behavior.


It sounds like some other program is launching in the background and 
then stealing the keyboard focus from MailMate, perhaps some automatic 
update process (e.g. anti-virus, Adobe CC, even OS X)? If that update 
program doesn’t recognize your keyboard input, it would beep at you. 
I have seen DropBox and Google Backup & Restore do this, but not every 
day.


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It does sound like Lisa and I are describing two different issues.  In 
my case, no menu item highlights, and no other App grabs the focus.  MM 
simply beeps at me when I select certain messages.  Restarting MM 
resolves the issue, at least for a period of time.


Thanks.

-Eric
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Re: [MlMt] system alert sound randomly occurring when selecting messages in MM

2020-10-25 Thread Glenn Parker

On 25 Oct 2020, at 13:46, Lisa Sieverts wrote:


Eric Sharakan  said:

Hi, has anyone else noticed this odd behavior: sometime MailMate will 
emit the system alert sound when I select certain messages for 
viewing.  I don't see anything unusual about the messages it chooses 
to do this with, and the behavior goes away (but eventually returns) 
if I restart MM.


YES I have seen this behavior every day. Since I don’t have sound on 
for alerts, the thing I notice is that as I’m going through my 
Inbox, every so often instead of a down arrow (or N/P with my key 
bindings) moving me to the next message, what I see is that the Apple 
Menu has been highlighted and opened instead. I have to click away 
from that and then highlight my next message in Mailmate and at that 
point I can work normally until the next time it happens. I see this 
behavior at least 2x and up to 10+ times in a typical day. I’d love 
to be able to stop this behavior.


It sounds like some other program is launching in the background and 
then stealing the keyboard focus from MailMate, perhaps some automatic 
update process (e.g. anti-virus, Adobe CC, even OS X)? If that update 
program doesn’t recognize your keyboard input, it would beep at you. I 
have seen DropBox and Google Backup & Restore do this, but not every 
day.


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[MlMt] system alert sound randomly occurring when selecting messages in MM

2020-10-25 Thread Lisa Sieverts

Eric Sharakan  said:

Hi, has anyone else noticed this odd behavior: sometime MailMate will 
emit the system alert sound when I select certain messages for 
viewing.  I don't see anything unusual about the messages it chooses 
to do this with, and the behavior goes away (but eventually returns) 
if I restart MM.


YES I have seen this behavior every day. Since I don’t have sound on 
for alerts, the thing I notice is that as I’m going through my Inbox, 
every so often instead of a down arrow (or N/P with my key bindings) 
moving me to the next message, what I see is that the Apple Menu has 
been highlighted and opened instead. I have to click away from that and 
then highlight my next message in Mailmate and at that point I can work 
normally until the next time it happens. I see this behavior at least 2x 
and up to 10+ times in a typical day. I’d love to be able to stop this 
behavior.


Thank you,
Lisa

Lisa Sieverts
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[MlMt] system alert sound randomly occurring when selecting messages in MM

2020-10-23 Thread Eric Sharakan
Hi, has anyone else noticed this odd behavior: sometime MailMate will 
emit the system alert sound when I select certain messages for viewing.  
I don't see anything unusual about the messages it chooses to do this 
with, and the behavior goes away (but eventually returns) if I restart 
MM.


I'm running r5726 on Catalina 10.15.7.

Thanks.

-Eric
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