Re: [MlMt] Domain mail won't go online

2020-03-07 Thread Annamarie Pluhar
Thank you so much Bill. I did in fact send an email to Benny that got 
attention. (And apologies for not responding sooner, amazing!)


It is as you say. A specific server at my hosting  - and Benny sent me 
the same command line to disable the quota thingy. No loss to me as I 
never used it.


Amazing how disruptive it was to me not to be getting email on five 
email accounts.  May it not happen again!


Peace,

Annamarie

Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 6 Mar 2020, at 17:24, Bill Cole wrote:


On 5 Mar 2020, at 6:56, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

Sent the wrong one. Ugh…Sorry. Here is the right one. 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfqki9mjlhwsehh/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-04%20at%202.05.53%20PM.png?dl=0


OK, so the core error is "NO Internal quota calculation error" which 
indicates a very specific rare problem with a particular IMAP server 
(Dovecot, a very good open source IMAP server) and the only problem in 
MailMate is that it does not expect that as a possible error at that 
point. It is reasonable in my opinion to be surprised by a computer 
saying that it made a calculation error...



Update: Message from hosting provider:

“We recently completed the migration of your server to our brand 
new Google data center. There is a high chance that cached 
information inside the mail client is causing the connectivity issue 
you are experiencing.


As an attempt to resolve this you can try adjusting your mail 
client's settings to directly connect to the server's hostname. This 
is done by using the details below:”


 I’ve tried the new setting on one account and it didn’t resolve. 
Sigh.


I wouldn't expect that to help.

That error is weird. The only reasons I can see that it should ever 
happen from the server side is if there's some gross misconfiguration 
or malfunction. I suppose it's possible that MailMate could have some 
detail about the server's mailbox namespace or feature support cached 
that changed when your provider migrated to new infrastructure, making 
the command that got the error nonsensical, but I though Benny had 
worked out all the kinks in that over a year ago. Are you running the 
latest release?


IF the problem is MM remembering stale info about the IMAP server, 
rather than the IMAP server being broken in some manner, it may fix 
the problem if you delete and recreate the account in MailMate. If the 
account has a lot of extant messages or dependent smart mailboxes 
(making a rebuild painful,) you might need to poke Benny more firmly 
by opening an actual bug report and including MailMate's IMAP session 
logs.  As a temporary workaround, this command line tweak may also 
work, at the expense of losing quota support for all accounts:


defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmIMAPQuotaDisabled -bool YES



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Re: [MlMt] Domain mail won't go online

2020-03-06 Thread Bill Cole

On 5 Mar 2020, at 6:56, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

Sent the wrong one. Ugh…Sorry. Here is the right one. 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfqki9mjlhwsehh/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-04%20at%202.05.53%20PM.png?dl=0


OK, so the core error is "NO Internal quota calculation error" which 
indicates a very specific rare problem with a particular IMAP server 
(Dovecot, a very good open source IMAP server) and the only problem in 
MailMate is that it does not expect that as a possible error at that 
point. It is reasonable in my opinion to be surprised by a computer 
saying that it made a calculation error...



Update: Message from hosting provider:

“We recently completed the migration of your server to our brand new 
Google data center. There is a high chance that cached information 
inside the mail client is causing the connectivity issue you are 
experiencing.


As an attempt to resolve this you can try adjusting your mail client's 
settings to directly connect to the server's hostname. This is done by 
using the details below:”


 I’ve tried the new setting on one account and it didn’t resolve. 
Sigh.


I wouldn't expect that to help.

That error is weird. The only reasons I can see that it should ever 
happen from the server side is if there's some gross misconfiguration or 
malfunction. I suppose it's possible that MailMate could have some 
detail about the server's mailbox namespace or feature support cached 
that changed when your provider migrated to new infrastructure, making 
the command that got the error nonsensical, but I though Benny had 
worked out all the kinks in that over a year ago. Are you running the 
latest release?


IF the problem is MM remembering stale info about the IMAP server, 
rather than the IMAP server being broken in some manner, it may fix the 
problem if you delete and recreate the account in MailMate. If the 
account has a lot of extant messages or dependent smart mailboxes 
(making a rebuild painful,) you might need to poke Benny more firmly by 
opening an actual bug report and including MailMate's IMAP session logs. 
 As a temporary workaround, this command line tweak may also work, at 
the expense of losing quota support for all accounts:


defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmIMAPQuotaDisabled -bool YES



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Re: [MlMt] Domain mail won't go online

2020-03-05 Thread Annamarie Pluhar
Sent the wrong one. Ugh…Sorry. Here is the right one. 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfqki9mjlhwsehh/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-04%20at%202.05.53%20PM.png?dl=0


Update: Message from hosting provider:

“We recently completed the migration of your server to our brand new 
Google data center. There is a high chance that cached information 
inside the mail client is causing the connectivity issue you are 
experiencing.


As an attempt to resolve this you can try adjusting your mail client's 
settings to directly connect to the server's hostname. This is done by 
using the details below:”


 I’ve tried the new setting on one account and it didn’t resolve. 
Sigh.


Thanks for help!


Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)

On 4 Mar 2020, at 21:21, Bill Cole wrote:


On 4 Mar 2020, at 19:28, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:


Hi,

I think that this is a MM problem. It’s not happening on my iPhone. 
It’s just my email accounts that are associated with my domains. My 
gmail account is working (obviously) and also my .me account.


I have a trouble ticket in with my hosting provider … They 
haven’t indicated that they did a server change or something.. I 
can’t attach a screenshot here, so I’m sending the drop box link 
for the error message, [here

](https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxr55v5zph4zxx0/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-04%20at%207.08.45%20PM.png?dl=0).


I see no error message in that image, just an account configuration 
dialog.


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Re: [MlMt] Domain mail won't go online

2020-03-04 Thread Bill Cole

On 4 Mar 2020, at 19:28, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:


Hi,

I think that this is a MM problem. It’s not happening on my iPhone. 
It’s just my email accounts that are associated with my domains. My 
gmail account is working (obviously) and also my .me account.


I have a trouble ticket in with my hosting provider … They haven’t 
indicated that they did a server change or something.. I can’t 
attach a screenshot here, so I’m sending the drop box link for the 
error message, [here

](https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxr55v5zph4zxx0/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-04%20at%207.08.45%20PM.png?dl=0).


I see no error message in that image, just an account configuration 
dialog.


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