Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
On 1 Feb 2016, at 19:17, Muster Hans wrote: On 1 Feb 2016, at 19:05, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: Hi! On 1 Feb 2016, at 17:53, Muster Hans wrote: New with BBEdit 11.5, which has just arrived today: http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/current_notes.html When piping data into the bbedit tool, you can now add a line number specifier, and the and the insertion point will be placed at the start of the indicated line in the resulting document. For example: ls -la | bbedit +5 I've just tested this and it puts the cursor at the beginning of line 5, without selecting it. Yep, I saw this too, **BUT** I cannot find an alternative to put the cursor at the bottom of the file. Hmm. ls -la | wc -l 404 ls -la | bbedit + puts the cursor on the last line of the file, a blank line in this example. Let's try a file which ends in a full line, but without at the end: bbedit +999 x.py # puts the cursor at the end of the last line. FWIW, I've been using TextWrangler in a similar way for newsgroup posts, called by slrn. What I find there is that I want the cursor positioned at the beginning of the post body, so that I can start at the beginning and strip out unwanted quoted text, just leaving the relevant quoted text plus my reply (possibly interleaved where answering more than one point). Yes TW does select the entire line, but that's not a problem when I'm using the cursor keys to move down through the text before typing any text. There's even a simpler solution! Here directly from Bare Bones' technical support: *(…) When you pipe data via the 'bbedit' tool, BBEdit will by default place the insertion point at the end of the piped data. Alternatively, you can make BBEdit place the insertion point at the top of file by including the '--view-top' parameter, or on any specific line by using the + convention I mentioned before. (…)*___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
On 1 Feb 2016, at 19:17, Muster Hans wrote: > bbedit + I'll use this too. Thanks! Regards, Vlad ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
On 1 Feb 2016, at 9:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On 31 Jan 2016, at 22:17, David Shepherdson wrote:
This is because of the change to The BBEdit command’s edit.sh.
Taking out the:
+${MM_LINE_NUMBER}
…means that BBEdit is no longer being told which line to
‘activate’ (i.e. select).
If only line numbers are supported via the command line then maybe
AppleScript could be used instead. A quick Google search revealed that
maybe `"select insertion point ..."` could be used somehow. Just a
suggestion for anyone capable of making that work :-) (I don't have
BBEdit installed myself.)
Thanks, I'll search for a solution!
Regards,
Vlad
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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
Hi, David! On 31 Jan 2016, at 22:17, David Shepherdson wrote: So you can’t use these two tricks in combination, unfortunately (at least, not unless/until Bare Bones adds the ability to specify the line number in the command without selecting it). You basically get a choice between MailMate telling BBEdit the correct line number, and BBEdit selecting it, or MailMate not telling BBEdit anything about the line number, so BBEdit puts the insertion point at the beginning of the file. I’m not bothered by the former, but then I only occasionally edit my messages in BBEdit, not all the time, so it’s rarely a problem for me. Thanks for the explanation! 1. I'll speak with Bare Bones once again about it. 2. You're right: If it's unsolvable I can for sure get used to, that's no big deal… 3. … I even start to like the current behavior ;-), because I can say hello in the top of the email and then jump to the bottom for the reply. :-) Thanks again! Regards, Vlad ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
On 31 Jan 2016, at 22:17, David Shepherdson wrote:
On 31 Jan 2016, at 18.25, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:
Something changed and I don't know what.
I still have the Caret Placement option in the Signatures > section
of MailMate’s preferences as you suggested (*(…) set to Above
Signature > (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to
Bottom) (…)*), but now **every reply put my cursor at the top
again** :-(
Any idea, what could have happened?
This is because of the change to The BBEdit command’s edit.sh.
Taking out the:
+${MM_LINE_NUMBER}
…means that BBEdit is no longer being told which line to
‘activate’ (i.e. select).
So you can’t use these two tricks in combination, unfortunately (at
least, not unless/until Bare Bones adds the ability to specify the
line number in the command without selecting it).
New with BBEdit 11.5, which has just arrived today:
http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/current_notes.html
When piping data into the bbedit tool, you can now add a line number
specifier, and the and the insertion point will be placed at the start
of the indicated line in the resulting document. For example:
ls -la | bbedit +5
I've just tested this and it puts the cursor at the beginning of line 5,
without selecting it.
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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
Hi! On 1 Feb 2016, at 17:53, Muster Hans wrote: New with BBEdit 11.5, which has just arrived today: http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/current_notes.html When piping data into the bbedit tool, you can now add a line number specifier, and the and the insertion point will be placed at the start of the indicated line in the resulting document. For example: ls -la | bbedit +5 I've just tested this and it puts the cursor at the beginning of line 5, without selecting it. Yep, I saw this too, **BUT** I cannot find an alternative to put the cursor at the bottom of the file. Regards, Vlad ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
On 1 Feb 2016, at 19:05, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: Hi! On 1 Feb 2016, at 17:53, Muster Hans wrote: New with BBEdit 11.5, which has just arrived today: http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/current_notes.html When piping data into the bbedit tool, you can now add a line number specifier, and the and the insertion point will be placed at the start of the indicated line in the resulting document. For example: ls -la | bbedit +5 I've just tested this and it puts the cursor at the beginning of line 5, without selecting it. Yep, I saw this too, **BUT** I cannot find an alternative to put the cursor at the bottom of the file. Hmm. ls -la | wc -l 404 ls -la | bbedit + puts the cursor on the last line of the file, a blank line in this example. Let's try a file which ends in a full line, but without at the end: bbedit +999 x.py # puts the cursor at the end of the last line. FWIW, I've been using TextWrangler in a similar way for newsgroup posts, called by slrn. What I find there is that I want the cursor positioned at the beginning of the post body, so that I can start at the beginning and strip out unwanted quoted text, just leaving the relevant quoted text plus my reply (possibly interleaved where answering more than one point). Yes TW does select the entire line, but that's not a problem when I'm using the cursor keys to move down through the text before typing any text. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
On 31 Jan 2016, at 18.25, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:
Something changed and I don't know what.
I still have the Caret Placement option in the Signatures > section of
MailMate’s preferences as you suggested (*(…) set to Above
Signature > (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to
Bottom) (…)*), but now **every reply put my cursor at the top
again** :-(
Any idea, what could have happened?
This is because of the change to The BBEdit command’s edit.sh. Taking
out the:
+${MM_LINE_NUMBER}
…means that BBEdit is no longer being told which line to
‘activate’ (i.e. select).
So you can’t use these two tricks in combination, unfortunately (at
least, not unless/until Bare Bones adds the ability to specify the line
number in the command without selecting it). You basically get a choice
between MailMate telling BBEdit the correct line number, and BBEdit
selecting it, or MailMate not telling BBEdit anything about the line
number, so BBEdit puts the insertion point at the beginning of the file.
I’m not bothered by the former, but then I only occasionally edit my
messages in BBEdit, not all the time, so it’s rarely a problem for me.
David
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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
On 31 Jan 2016, at 9:22, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 31 Jan 2016, at 8:25, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: I still have the Caret Placement option in the Signatures > section of MailMate’s preferences as you suggested (*(…) set to Above Signature > (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to Bottom) (…)*), but now **every reply put my cursor at the top again** :-( Any idea, what could have happened? Try clicking “Reset Usage History” in the Signatures preferences pane. This should ensure a clean start. I did. It didn't help, the caret was to the top again. Regards, Vlad ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
On 31 Jan 2016, at 8:25, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: I still have the Caret Placement option in the Signatures > section of MailMate’s preferences as you suggested (*(…) set to Above Signature > (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to Bottom) (…)*), but now **every reply put my cursor at the top again** :-( Any idea, what could have happened? Try clicking “Reset Usage History” in the Signatures preferences pane. This should ensure a clean start. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
On 28 Jan 2016, at 22:13, David Shepherdson wrote:
On 29 Jan 2016, at 07.05, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:
I'm using the BBEdit-command in order to edit my email-messages in
BBEdit.
Is there a way to position the cursor at the bottom of the email when
replying / forwarding an email?
Isn’t this controlled by the Caret Placement option in the
Signatures section of MailMate’s preferences? I have it set to Above
Signature (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to Bottom),
and the cursor appears exactly where I would expect (when editing in
MailMate, but as per the other thread I would expect it to be the same
in an external editor).
David
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Something changed and I don't know what.
I still have the Caret Placement option in the Signatures > section of
MailMate’s preferences as you suggested (*(…) set to Above Signature
> (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to Bottom) (…)*),
but now **every reply put my cursor at the top again** :-(
Any idea, what could have happened?
Thanks!
Regards,
Vlad
P.S. At leas this happens now whitout activating the whole line, so it
seems that the change in edit.sh still works. I append the old and the
new edit.sh-file, just for reference.
=== old
#!/bin/bash
PATH="${PATH}:/usr/local/bin/:${HOME}/bin"
if which -s bbedit; then
bbedit --wait --resume --clean +${MM_LINE_NUMBER} --pipe-title
"${MM_TITLE:-(no subject)}" "${MM_EDIT_FILEPATH}"
else
osascript -e 'tell app "MailMate" to display dialog "Make sure you have
the “bbedit” command installed. See the “BBEdit ▸ Install
Command Line Tools” menu item within BBEdit." buttons "OK" default
button 1 with title "Unable to locate BBEdit"' >/dev/null 2>&1 &
fi
===
=== new
#!/bin/bash
PATH="${PATH}:/usr/local/bin/:${HOME}/bin"
if which -s bbedit; then
bbedit --wait --resume --clean --pipe-title "${MM_TITLE:-(no subject)}"
"${MM_EDIT_FILEPATH}"
else
osascript -e 'tell app "MailMate" to display dialog "Make sure you have
the “bbedit” command installed. See the “BBEdit ▸ Install
Command Line Tools” menu item within BBEdit." buttons "OK" default
button 1 with title "Unable to locate BBEdit"' >/dev/null 2>&1 &
fi
===
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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?
On 28 Jan 2016, at 22:13, David Shepherdson wrote: On 29 Jan 2016, at 07.05, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: I'm using the BBEdit-command in order to edit my email-messages in BBEdit. Is there a way to position the cursor at the bottom of the email when replying / forwarding an email? Isn’t this controlled by the Caret Placement option in the Signatures section of MailMate’s preferences? I have it set to Above Signature (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to Bottom), and the cursor appears exactly where I would expect (when editing in MailMate, but as per the other thread I would expect it to be the same in an external editor). That was it! Thanks! Regards, Vlad ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
