Re: [MlMt] Moving settings to a new computer from an existing installation

2022-02-28 Thread Robert Brenstein
The instructions say (depending on what you have customized) which means 
“if they exist”. In other words, copy what you have and do not worry 
about what is not there.


On 28 Feb 2022, at 13:18, Oliver Groschopp wrote:


On 19 Feb 2022, at 20:22, John Purnell wrote:

I followed the instructions at the bottom of the respective manual 
page: https://manual.mailmate-app.com/rebuild before I opened 
MailMate (which I had previously updated to the latest beta build for 
Monterey). I then opened MailMate, manually synced all mailboxes, and 
waited for all the messages to download. After that I added my 
licence and checked the preferences as I moved from Mojave to 
Monterey (can't remember if I had to adjust any). This is the second 
time I've done this since using MailMate and the previous time was 
also effortless--a testament to Benny.


The above link states that the following should be saved:

/Users//Library/Application Support/MailMate/*.plist
/Users//Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/
/Users//Library/Application Support/MailMate/Bundles/
/Users//Library/Preferences/com.freron.MailMate.plist

For me, neither /Users//Library/Application 
Support/MailMate/Resources/ nor /Users//Library/Application 
Support/MailMate/Bundles/ exists!


What's going on?
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Re: [MlMt] Moving settings to a new computer from an existing installation

2022-02-28 Thread Oliver Groschopp
On 19 Feb 2022, at 20:22, John Purnell wrote:

> I followed the instructions at the bottom of the respective manual page: 
> https://manual.mailmate-app.com/rebuild before I opened MailMate (which I had 
> previously updated to the latest beta build for Monterey). I then opened 
> MailMate, manually synced all mailboxes, and waited for all the messages to 
> download. After that I added my licence and checked the preferences as I 
> moved from Mojave to Monterey (can't remember if I had to adjust any). This 
> is the second time I've done this since using MailMate and the previous time 
> was also effortless--a testament to Benny.

The above link states that the following should be saved:

/Users//Library/Application Support/MailMate/*.plist
/Users//Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/
/Users//Library/Application Support/MailMate/Bundles/
/Users//Library/Preferences/com.freron.MailMate.plist

For me, neither /Users//Library/Application 
Support/MailMate/Resources/ nor /Users//Library/Application 
Support/MailMate/Bundles/ exists!

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Re: [MlMt] Moving settings to a new computer from an existing installation

2022-02-19 Thread John Purnell
Henry, the procedure I described did bring in my all my accounts. The only 
input from me during the entire process was that I got prompted for new 
application specific passwords for those accounts that are protected by 2FA on 
the initial manually initiated sync (my default). Once I created those and 
inserted them in the dialog boxes the messages from those accounts started to 
get downloaded. I then left MailMate alone and did other stuff until the sync 
completed (some time). I then reconciled the mailbox message counts against the 
old computer (identical). I think an important step on the new machine is not 
to open MailMate before you do the migration described in the manual, or if you 
have, to: close MailMate, delete its Application Support folder and the 
preference list, follow the migration procedure and only then open MailMate. 
Good luck.


On 2022-02-20, at 09:02 +1300, Henry Seiden  wrote:

> Thanks, John,
>
> I thought that it would migrate my accounts as well, but alas, no. Nor will 
> it use any accounts installed in OS as “Internet accounts.” I guess you found 
> that or automatically did that process.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Henry Seiden
>
> Techworks Pro Co.
> E: infotechworksprocom
> W: http://techworkspro.com
>
> On 19 Feb 2022, at 14:22, John Purnell wrote:
>
>> I just completed this successfully yesterday. I followed the instructions at 
>> the bottom of the respective manual page: 
>> https://manual.mailmate-app.com/rebuild before I opened MailMate (which I 
>> had previously updated to the latest beta build for Monterey). I then opened 
>> MailMate, manually synced all mailboxes, and waited for all the messages to 
>> download. After that I added my licence and checked the preferences as I 
>> moved from Mojave to Monterey (can't remember if I had to adjust any). This 
>> is the second time I've done this since using MailMate and the previous time 
>> was also effortless--a testament to Benny.
>>
>>
>> On 2022-02-20, at 06:06 +1300, Henry Seiden  wrote:
>>
>>> Had no success moving IMAP accounts/settings from an existing installation 
>>> to a new computer. So, importing accounts from scratch (actually exporting 
>>> them is impossible because that functionality doesn’t seem to exist on the 
>>> new computer. Tried copying my account setting (Users>username>Library…) 
>>> which didn’t move any accounts.
>>>
>>> Tops on my list of new/workable features is to move all settings (account 
>>> settings, MM options, installed features) en masse by copy or export/import 
>>> in Finder or MM, from a working installation of MM to a new computer, in 
>>> the case of a clean install onto the same computer, or a different one from 
>>> a file backup.
>>>
>>> MailMate clean install’s just fine by itself but all features, IMAP 
>>> accounts and settings now need to be individually installed.
>>>
>>> The feature called Import Accounts contains nothing in the new installation 
>>> and can’t use accounts created on the System (System Preferences>Accounts) 
>>> or in another app (like Mail.app), unless they are appear installed in 
>>> MailMate. That seems weird. Tried it on a new Beta (12.3) OS installation 
>>> that had Mail.app accounts already logged in on that app, but the accounts 
>>> installed there were not visible in MM, but some are visible as choices in 
>>> the old, previous version(?).
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Henry Seiden
>>>
>>> Techworks Pro Co.
>>> E: infotechworksprocom
>>> W: http://techworkspro.com
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Re: [MlMt] Moving settings to a new computer from an existing installation

2022-02-19 Thread John Purnell
Henry, the procedure I described did bring in my all my accounts. The only 
input from me during the entire process was that I got prompted for new 
application specific passwords for those accounts that are protected by 2FA on 
the initial manually initiated sync (my default). Once I created those and 
inserted them in the dialog boxes the messages from those accounts started to 
get downloaded. I then left MailMate alone and did other stuff until the sync 
completed (some time). I then reconciled the mailbox message counts against the 
old computer (identical). I think an important step on the new machine is not 
to open MailMate before you do the migration described in the manual, or if you 
have, to: close MailMate, delete its Application Support folder and the 
preference list, follow the migration procedure and only then open MailMate. 
Good luck.


On 2022-02-20, at 09:02 +1300, Henry Seiden  wrote:

> Thanks, John,
>
> I thought that it would migrate my accounts as well, but alas, no. Nor will 
> it use any accounts installed in OS as “Internet accounts.” I guess you found 
> that or automatically did that process.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Henry Seiden
>
> Techworks Pro Co.
> E: infotechworksprocom
> W: http://techworkspro.com
>
> On 19 Feb 2022, at 14:22, John Purnell wrote:
>
>> I just completed this successfully yesterday. I followed the instructions at 
>> the bottom of the respective manual page: 
>> https://manual.mailmate-app.com/rebuild before I opened MailMate (which I 
>> had previously updated to the latest beta build for Monterey). I then opened 
>> MailMate, manually synced all mailboxes, and waited for all the messages to 
>> download. After that I added my licence and checked the preferences as I 
>> moved from Mojave to Monterey (can't remember if I had to adjust any). This 
>> is the second time I've done this since using MailMate and the previous time 
>> was also effortless--a testament to Benny.
>>
>>
>> On 2022-02-20, at 06:06 +1300, Henry Seiden  wrote:
>>
>>> Had no success moving IMAP accounts/settings from an existing installation 
>>> to a new computer. So, importing accounts from scratch (actually exporting 
>>> them is impossible because that functionality doesn’t seem to exist on the 
>>> new computer. Tried copying my account setting (Users>username>Library…) 
>>> which didn’t move any accounts.
>>>
>>> Tops on my list of new/workable features is to move all settings (account 
>>> settings, MM options, installed features) en masse by copy or export/import 
>>> in Finder or MM, from a working installation of MM to a new computer, in 
>>> the case of a clean install onto the same computer, or a different one from 
>>> a file backup.
>>>
>>> MailMate clean install’s just fine by itself but all features, IMAP 
>>> accounts and settings now need to be individually installed.
>>>
>>> The feature called Import Accounts contains nothing in the new installation 
>>> and can’t use accounts created on the System (System Preferences>Accounts) 
>>> or in another app (like Mail.app), unless they are appear installed in 
>>> MailMate. That seems weird. Tried it on a new Beta (12.3) OS installation 
>>> that had Mail.app accounts already logged in on that app, but the accounts 
>>> installed there were not visible in MM, but some are visible as choices in 
>>> the old, previous version(?).
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Henry Seiden
>>>
>>> Techworks Pro Co.
>>> E: infotechworksprocom
>>> W: http://techworkspro.com
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Re: [MlMt] Moving settings to a new computer from an existing installation

2022-02-19 Thread Henry Seiden

Thanks, John,

I thought that it would migrate my accounts as well, but alas, no. Nor 
will it use any accounts installed in OS as “Internet accounts.” I 
guess you found that or automatically did that process.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden

Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 19 Feb 2022, at 14:22, John Purnell wrote:

I just completed this successfully yesterday. I followed the 
instructions at the bottom of the respective manual page: 
https://manual.mailmate-app.com/rebuild before I opened MailMate 
(which I had previously updated to the latest beta build for 
Monterey). I then opened MailMate, manually synced all mailboxes, and 
waited for all the messages to download. After that I added my licence 
and checked the preferences as I moved from Mojave to Monterey (can't 
remember if I had to adjust any). This is the second time I've done 
this since using MailMate and the previous time was also effortless--a 
testament to Benny.



On 2022-02-20, at 06:06 +1300, Henry Seiden  
wrote:


Had no success moving IMAP accounts/settings from an existing 
installation to a new computer. So, importing accounts from scratch 
(actually exporting them is impossible because that functionality 
doesn’t seem to exist on the new computer. Tried copying my account 
setting (Users>username>Library…) which didn’t move any accounts.


Tops on my list of new/workable features is to move all settings 
(account settings, MM options, installed features) en masse by copy 
or export/import in Finder or MM, from a working installation of MM 
to a new computer, in the case of a clean install onto the same 
computer, or a different one from a file backup.


MailMate clean install’s just fine by itself but all features, IMAP 
accounts and settings now need to be individually installed.


The feature called Import Accounts contains nothing in the new 
installation and can’t use accounts created on the System (System 
Preferences>Accounts) or in another app (like Mail.app), unless they 
are appear installed in MailMate. That seems weird. Tried it on a new 
Beta (12.3) OS installation that had Mail.app accounts already logged 
in on that app, but the accounts installed there were not visible in 
MM, but some are visible as choices in the old, previous version(?).


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden

Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com
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Re: [MlMt] Moving settings to a new computer from an existing installation

2022-02-19 Thread John Purnell
I just completed this successfully yesterday. I followed the instructions at 
the bottom of the respective manual page: 
https://manual.mailmate-app.com/rebuild before I opened MailMate (which I had 
previously updated to the latest beta build for Monterey). I then opened 
MailMate, manually synced all mailboxes, and waited for all the messages to 
download. After that I added my licence and checked the preferences as I moved 
from Mojave to Monterey (can't remember if I had to adjust any). This is the 
second time I've done this since using MailMate and the previous time was also 
effortless--a testament to Benny.


On 2022-02-20, at 06:06 +1300, Henry Seiden  wrote:

> Had no success moving IMAP accounts/settings from an existing installation to 
> a new computer. So, importing accounts from scratch (actually exporting them 
> is impossible because that functionality doesn’t seem to exist on the new 
> computer. Tried copying my account setting (Users>username>Library…) which 
> didn’t move any accounts.
>
> Tops on my list of new/workable features is to move all settings (account 
> settings, MM options, installed features) en masse by copy or export/import 
> in Finder or MM, from a working installation of MM to a new computer, in the 
> case of a clean install onto the same computer, or a different one from a 
> file backup.
>
> MailMate clean install’s just fine by itself but all features, IMAP accounts 
> and settings now need to be individually installed.
>
> The feature called Import Accounts contains nothing in the new installation 
> and can’t use accounts created on the System (System Preferences>Accounts) or 
> in another app (like Mail.app), unless they are appear installed in MailMate. 
> That seems weird. Tried it on a new Beta (12.3) OS installation that had 
> Mail.app accounts already logged in on that app, but the accounts installed 
> there were not visible in MM, but some are visible as choices in the old, 
> previous version(?).
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Henry Seiden
>
> Techworks Pro Co.
> E: infotechworksprocom
> W: http://techworkspro.com
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